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[pingpongsam]

Hydrad, you're read is spot on. As this day has progressed it has become clear to me that WW/BA are what they claim to be. You are an IC. I am an IC to myself. Guess who is left. The clarity surrounding WW/BA has come about because of the lio/arch interaction.

Unfortunately, you aren't town... as I've been saying since D1.

Because you've been so certain since D1. Guess who has the luxury of certainty on D1?

[liopoil]

Hydrad, you're read is spot on. As this day has progressed it has become clear to me that WW/BA are what they claim to be. You are an IC. I am an IC to myself. Guess who is left. The clarity surrounding WW/BA has come about because of the lio/arch interaction.

Unfortunately, you aren't town... as I've been saying since D1.

Because you've been so certain since D1. Guess who has the luxury of certainty on D1?

Wasn't anywhere near certain on any of the days. Pretty confident starting D4 though. And I'm right too.

[liopoil]

Honestly I think arch is 100% scum if ww/BA is town. I really can't see pps and lio being a team.

Why couldnt you see them as a team?

Just how they are acting towards each other. Honestly I don't have much concrete proof and most of this game i'm going off of instinct. This is hard for me as I have no idea how any of you normally play so I really hate how this decision is basically coming down to me.

I feel like they would of tried to push a mislynch onto you if they were both scum but you didn't really come up at all. Also their interactions don't sound like 2 scum trying to lynch each other to get cred onto one of them. I feel like they weren't in a bad enough spot to decide to try to lynch each other and think they would of decided to get a mislynch push.

This is a good point.

However, not sure about "I feel like they weren't in a bad enough spot to decide to try to lynch each other".  If it was PPS/Volt/Lio they may have been pretty desperate after Volt's lynch.

pretty sure pps and I weren't getting that much suspicion... certainly less than our 3 mislynches (ash, chairs, e). But if you want to keep your "epic bus" theory alive, go ahead.

[Witherweaver]

I think it's more that you two never had a great reason (from what I saw) to start suspecting each other in the first place.  Just kind of locked on and stayed there, in a seemingly mutual manner.

[Archetype]

Vote:liopoil

[liopoil]

Vote:liopoil

gg?

[Hydrad]

Vote: Archetype

this is where my vote is going to sit for now.

[liopoil]

Vote:liopoil

gg?

I mean, my lynch seems pretty inevitable anyway. This is probably "just" L-1 though

[Witherweaver]

Vote:liopoil

gg?

That's only three votes, and from where you're sitting both scum (being Arch and PPS) are already on you.

[Hydrad]

this is making me worry even more about a arch/pps team. I think its too big a risk for arch to team kill this late into it but I guess hes running out of options.

[liopoil]

Vote:liopoil

gg?

I mean, my lynch seems pretty inevitable anyway. This is probably "just" L-1 though

Hopefully you thought it was hammer, but are wrong, and we can see your failed quickhammer attempt now.

witherweaver, can you unvote for a second to figure stuff out, and so that BA can't quickhammer just in case you guys are the scums?

[liopoil]

Vote:liopoil

gg?

That's only three votes, and from where you're sitting both scum (being Arch and PPS) are already on you.

Good, unless BA is scum with you. I thought BA was voting for me?

[Witherweaver]

this is making me worry even more about a arch/pps team. I think its too big a risk for arch to team kill this late into it but I guess hes running out of options.

Do you think Arch/Lio would vote for PPS here?  Wouldn't that look pretty bad for him if we do lynch Lio?

[Witherweaver]

BA is either on PPS or unvoted.

Unvote

[Witherweaver]

Jimmmmmmm can we get a vote count?

[Hydrad]

this is making me worry even more about a arch/pps team. I think its too big a risk for arch to team kill this late into it but I guess hes running out of options.

Do you think Arch/Lio would vote for PPS here?  Wouldn't that look pretty bad for him if we do lynch Lio?

I think he would vote for lio eventually but I think the timing looks like a really dangerous time to do this. The timing of his vote feels more like a scum lynching town then a scum lynching scum. The only thing is I know he said he was only here for a bit and if thats the case I sorta understand the vote.

[liopoil]

this is making me worry even more about a arch/pps team. I think its too big a risk for arch to team kill this late into it but I guess hes running out of options.

Do you think Arch/Lio would vote for PPS here?  Wouldn't that look pretty bad for him if we do lynch Lio?

Unvote, man

PPE: 1 - good.

I'm not sure what I would make of arch's vote from a neutral perspective, if I didn't know I was town. In theory it could make sense if he was my partner, but also makes sense for pps-arch. If it were a pps-lio team I'm not sure why he would do that with no explanation... I guess maybe if he had to leave and just decided he needed to move his vote?

PPE: two more - I already asked for a vote count

[Witherweaver]

Fun fact: Arch's vote is out of syntax and probably doesn't count.

[Witherweaver]

I found this out because I was searching for "vote: lio" (non case-sensitive) to try to find out if BA voted or not.

[Witherweaver]

Other fun fact, I have 904 posts in this thread.  I hope we correctly lynch today and I don't die tonight and I can break 1000.

Anyone know the record for a single Mafia game here?

[liopoil]

Fun fact: Arch's vote is out of syntax and probably doesn't count.

haha - I'm not sure...

I think that breaks the record by a couple hundred... IIRC, the record isn't any higher than 700 or so. Can't remember exactly when and who that was. There might be another player in this game with over 700 posts too, BA or faust maybe?

I'm gone for the rest of the day now - I will have access at some point tomorrow again. Hopefully we won't have already lost by then...

[Hydrad]

Other fun fact, I have 904 posts in this thread.  I hope we correctly lynch today and I don't die tonight and I can break 1000.

Anyone know the record for a single Mafia game here?

Man I felt like i have done a decent amount of posts and yet your getting close to tripling me. thats crazy.

[Beyond Awesome]

So, overall, I feel PPS is the most likely to be town out of the three players.

I am still fairly confident about Lio about being scum. I don't see how he is.

I honestly have no idea what to make of Arch though. I can sort of see an Arch/Lio team.

So, Hydrad what makes you so confident that Arch is scum?

[Hydrad]

So, Hydrad what makes you so confident that Arch is scum?

Just interactions and how things are playing out I guess. I would say I'm 90% sure arch is scum. Another thing that makes me believe its him is I think he has done the worst with roles out of all of us.

[pingpongsam]

Just got back from euthanizing my 19 year old cat.

I don't care if we lynch lio or arch. To honor my word.

Vote: archetype