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[liopoil]

This is ridiculous. Not a scumslip.

Can you explain the inconsistencies?

Yes.

[liopoil]

This is ridiculous. Not a scumslip.

Now there are 3 people willing to vote for WW (faust, ash, pps). pps and ash are also possibly the scumteam, interesting.

Well, I'm not willing to vote for WW, and neither is WW or BA. So for this to go through, both hydrad and arch need to be convinced. Please tell me this won't happen, guys.

Arch may be scum though, and I actually think he is more likely to be scum than ash now.

So hydrad, DON'T DO IT

Don't worry. I'm one of the ones who really believes WW/BA. Its going to take me a decent amount to swap it today.

Good, now vote for PPS!

[Archetype]

Now I'm starting to come around to an ash lynch. It's just too big of a risk if he is indeed Loved and left alive tomorrow.

[ashersky]

There's no possible way one of BA/WW is scum and one isn't, right?  You'd need lying town for that.

So, if BA/WW is not the team, who is (from my perspective)?

It has to include liopoil.  So, that means:

lio/pps
lio/arch
lio/hydrad
lio/faust

That's the order of likelihood for me.

[liopoil]

Now I'm starting to come around to an ash lynch. It's just too big of a risk if he is indeed Loved and left alive tomorrow.

who's his partner you think? If it's pps, then don't move your vote. If it's somebody else, you're probably wrong.

There's no possible way one of BA/WW is scum and one isn't, right?  You'd need lying town for that.

So, if BA/WW is not the team, who is (from my perspective)?

It has to include liopoil.  So, that means:

lio/pps
lio/arch
lio/hydrad
lio/faust

That's the order of likelihood for me.

it has to include me, huh?

[Archetype]

There's no possible way one of BA/WW is scum and one isn't, right?  You'd need lying town for that.

So, if BA/WW is not the team, who is (from my perspective)?

It has to include liopoil.  So, that means:

lio/pps
lio/arch
lio/hydrad
lio/faust

That's the order of likelihood for me.

In each of those pairings, who's the dice destroyer?

[ashersky]

There's no possible way one of BA/WW is scum and one isn't, right?  You'd need lying town for that.

So, if BA/WW is not the team, who is (from my perspective)?

It has to include liopoil.  So, that means:

lio/pps
lio/arch
lio/hydrad
lio/faust

That's the order of likelihood for me.

it has to include me, huh?

I think so.  That's an if though, contingent on WW/BA.

[Witherweaver]

This is ridiculous. Not a scumslip.

Can you explain the inconsistencies?

There isn't an inconsistency.  Your paraphrase was almost entirely correct except for the extra "randomly".  That we were randomly selected is the obvious assumption, it just didn't explicitly say so in the QT.

You are being absurd, and you know it.

[pingpongsam]

I don't think lio is scum or he wouldn't push me so hard unless the goal is to make him the lynch target tomorrow so his partner can achieve something he needs the time to achieve.

[pingpongsam]

I don't think lio is scum or he wouldn't push me so hard unless the goal is to make him the lynch target tomorrow so his partner can achieve something he needs the time to achieve.

In which case no lynch works as well.

[ashersky]

In each of those pairings, who's the dice destroyer?

I don't know.  No one has claimed dice destroyer.  It might not even be a role.  Maybe it's a factional power.  Maybe it's a cover story for scum spending dice.  Maybe you are the dice destroyer who can roll one extra "destroyed" dice the day after you target someone.  Who knows?

[ashersky]

This is ridiculous. Not a scumslip.

Can you explain the inconsistencies?

There isn't an inconsistency.  Your paraphrase was almost entirely correct except for the extra "randomly".  That we were randomly selected is the obvious assumption, it just didn't explicitly say so in the QT.

You are being absurd, and you know it.

I'm not being absurd.  I asked if my paraphrase was right.  One of you said yes, the other said no.  In fact, the one who said yes went so far as to then say he made a mistake and double-checked in his QT.  If there was no inconsistency, why did he own up to it?

You are being absurd because you got caught.

[Archetype]

Now I'm starting to come around to an ash lynch. It's just too big of a risk if he is indeed Loved and left alive tomorrow.

who's his partner you think? If it's pps, then don't move your vote. If it's somebody else, you're probably wrong.

You or Faust. Or PPS. I'm not quite sure. ashersky could easily be busing you and faust and him could be scummates working together to lynch one of the Masons and kill the other that night. But both of those scenarios are big ifs. PPS doesn't make 100% sense as a partner, but he's just so scummy that he has to be scum.

But I guess if we do lynch his partner, he won't be invincible tomorrow if he is Loved.

[ashersky]

If "random selection" was the obvious assumption for the masons, you would not have written "the other" when talking about random selection.  I'm saying your subconscious betrayed you.

[Archetype]

In each of those pairings, who's the dice destroyer?

I don't know.  No one has claimed dice destroyer.  It might not even be a role.  Maybe it's a factional power.  Maybe it's a cover story for scum spending dice.  Maybe you are the dice destroyer who can roll one extra "destroyed" dice the day after you target someone.  Who knows?

There's evidence that there is a second entity besides the Town Thief that has been getting rid of dice.

[Witherweaver]

Dice destroying ability exists. BA lost dice at D2 start and Yuma stole from Box. I think factional ability is unlikely.

[Beyond Awesome]

This is ridiculous. Not a scumslip.

Can you explain the inconsistencies?

There isn't an inconsistency.  Your paraphrase was almost entirely correct except for the extra "randomly".  That we were randomly selected is the obvious assumption, it just didn't explicitly say so in the QT.

You are being absurd, and you know it.

I'm not being absurd.  I asked if my paraphrase was right.  One of you said yes, the other said no.  In fact, the one who said yes went so far as to then say he made a mistake and double-checked in his QT.  If there was no inconsistency, why did he own up to it?

You are being absurd because you got caught.

Actually, I really did think my QT message said we were randomly chosen. So, I went back and double-checked what it said and the QT does not say WW and I are randomly chosen. It does say the neighbors are randomly chosen though.

[Archetype]

I don't think lio is scum or he wouldn't push me so hard unless the goal is to make him the lynch target tomorrow so his partner can achieve something he needs the time to achieve.

AKA ash.

[ashersky]

In each of those pairings, who's the dice destroyer?

I don't know.  No one has claimed dice destroyer.  It might not even be a role.  Maybe it's a factional power.  Maybe it's a cover story for scum spending dice.  Maybe you are the dice destroyer who can roll one extra "destroyed" dice the day after you target someone.  Who knows?

There's evidence that there is a second entity besides the Town Thief that has been getting rid of dice.

Well, we have two thieves claimed.  That's two right there.

Dice destroying ability exists. BA lost dice at D2 start and Yuma stole from Box. I think factional ability is unlikely.

Isn't faust a claimed thief?

Why is factional ability any more likely or unlikely than anything else?

[Witherweaver]

If "random selection" was the obvious assumption for the masons, you would not have written "the other" when talking about random selection.  I'm saying your subconscious betrayed you.

God damn, are you trying to be dense?  There were two selections.  One selection for 2 Masons, one selection for 2 Neighbors.

[ashersky]

This is ridiculous. Not a scumslip.

Can you explain the inconsistencies?

There isn't an inconsistency.  Your paraphrase was almost entirely correct except for the extra "randomly".  That we were randomly selected is the obvious assumption, it just didn't explicitly say so in the QT.

You are being absurd, and you know it.

I'm not being absurd.  I asked if my paraphrase was right.  One of you said yes, the other said no.  In fact, the one who said yes went so far as to then say he made a mistake and double-checked in his QT.  If there was no inconsistency, why did he own up to it?

You are being absurd because you got caught.

Actually, I really did think my QT message said we were randomly chosen. So, I went back and double-checked what it said and the QT does not say WW and I are randomly chosen. It does say the neighbors are randomly chosen though.

See WW, BA continues to agree that there was an inconsistency between your two answers, even though you deny it.

[Witherweaver]

And my QT uses the word "other"

[ashersky]

If "random selection" was the obvious assumption for the masons, you would not have written "the other" when talking about random selection.  I'm saying your subconscious betrayed you.

God damn, are you trying to be dense?  There were two selections.  One selection for 2 Masons, one selection for 2 Neighbors.

You keep saying that, but you don't know that.  You and he both confirmed you were not informed of that.

[liopoil]

This is ridiculous. Not a scumslip.

Can you explain the inconsistencies?

There isn't an inconsistency.  Your paraphrase was almost entirely correct except for the extra "randomly".  That we were randomly selected is the obvious assumption, it just didn't explicitly say so in the QT.

You are being absurd, and you know it.

Agreed 100%.

But folks, as I've said since early on this day, ww/BA lynch isn't happening today, period. Stop trying to lynch them. Stop responding to posts trying to lynch them.

[ashersky]

And my QT uses the word "other"

Right.  Here's a way to write it in your scum QT:

"The town defeated the monster and has been rewarded with Council.  You must post in this QT (link) tonight.  The others in the QT will be randomly selected from remaining players.  You may create aliases to post, using the names Alice and Bob."