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[Beyond Awesome]

Looks like liopoil, WW, and I are the only ones of PPS's wagon.

Vote: PPS

i would lynch PPS also. just trying to rethink a couple things but if needed I would be willing to hammer

Okay, if you hammer PPS can you target Ash with your dice removing ability?

Actually, Ash might not be a good target if Faust cops Ash with the Mentalist

[Beyond Awesome]

Ash's plans are usually a little bit, more, uh.. I don't know, less WIFOM and more based on setup and roles.

Also, Ash could have lied, actually became permanently loved and made a BS story about using all of his dice for WIFOM reasons so that he wouldn't get lynched today and later on become unlynchable.

[Witherweaver]

Ash's plans are usually a little bit, more, uh.. I don't know, less WIFOM and more based on setup and roles.

Also, Ash could have lied, actually became permanently loved and made a BS story about using all of his dice for WIFOM reasons so that he wouldn't get lynched today and later on become unlynchable.

Yes, but why bring up the Lovedoctor at all today?

[Beyond Awesome]

Ash's plans are usually a little bit, more, uh.. I don't know, less WIFOM and more based on setup and roles.

Also, Ash could have lied, actually became permanently loved and made a BS story about using all of his dice for WIFOM reasons so that he wouldn't get lynched today and later on become unlynchable.

Yes, but why bring up the Lovedoctor at all today?

That is a good point. I have no idea.

[Archetype]

Another thing that rubs me the wrong way is that ash seems totally aware about all the WIFOM surrounding the Love Doctor thing.

[pingpongsam]

With all this emphasis on confirmed roles why is the plan consolidating around lynching the guy we can confirm and leaving alive the VT that cannot be confirmed?

[Beyond Awesome]

With all this emphasis on confirmed roles why is the plan consolidating around lynching the guy we can confirm and leaving alive the VT that cannot be confirmed?

Hey! Ash is my preferred lynch choice. But, I won't deny that you have been pretty scummy.

[Beyond Awesome]

With all this emphasis on confirmed roles why is the plan consolidating around lynching the guy we can confirm and leaving alive the VT that cannot be confirmed?

Also, Ash can be just as confirmed as you with the Mentalist.

[Witherweaver]

I think he would have had to assume he'd be lynched anyway, so he brought up the Lovedoctor so that he could make the kind of explanation he did later down the road.  But that's a hard plan to buy.

[pingpongsam]

With all this emphasis on confirmed roles why is the plan consolidating around lynching the guy we can confirm and leaving alive the VT that cannot be confirmed?

Also, Ash can be just as confirmed as you with the Mentalist.

How so? I specified who I sent the Mentalist to and it was confirmed as well.

[Beyond Awesome]

With all this emphasis on confirmed roles why is the plan consolidating around lynching the guy we can confirm and leaving alive the VT that cannot be confirmed?

Also, Ash can be just as confirmed as you with the Mentalist.

How so? I specified who I sent the Mentalist to and it was confirmed as well.

Faust claims he can cop someone with Mentalist.

[Beyond Awesome]

Ash's plans are usually a little bit, more, uh.. I don't know, less WIFOM and more based on setup and roles.

Also, Ash could have lied, actually became permanently loved and made a BS story about using all of his dice for WIFOM reasons so that he wouldn't get lynched today and later on become unlynchable.

Yes, but why bring up the Lovedoctor at all today?

Also, can you explain to me if Ash were town why he would do what he did? What is the benefit of town Ash to do what he did and what is the benefit of scum Ash to do what he did?

[Witherweaver]

Ash's plans are usually a little bit, more, uh.. I don't know, less WIFOM and more based on setup and roles.

Also, Ash could have lied, actually became permanently loved and made a BS story about using all of his dice for WIFOM reasons so that he wouldn't get lynched today and later on become unlynchable.

Yes, but why bring up the Lovedoctor at all today?

Also, can you explain to me if Ash were town why he would do what he did? What is the benefit of town Ash to do what he did and what is the benefit of scum Ash to do what he did?

Maybe he just wanted to troll some people for a while?

[Hydrad]

Ash's plans are usually a little bit, more, uh.. I don't know, less WIFOM and more based on setup and roles.

Also, Ash could have lied, actually became permanently loved and made a BS story about using all of his dice for WIFOM reasons so that he wouldn't get lynched today and later on become unlynchable.

Yes, but why bring up the Lovedoctor at all today?

Also, can you explain to me if Ash were town why he would do what he did? What is the benefit of town Ash to do what he did and what is the benefit of scum Ash to do what he did?

He got reactions. although it was frustrating I will admit having those reactions can help finding scum.

[faust]

Just to make sure that before there's a quick-no-lynch, everyone should know what to do.

PPS should target someone he thinks will stay alive.
liopoil should probably target PPS in order not to mess with the confirmation of PPS' role.
Hydrad and BA should target the same person, ideally someone who is likely to stay alive. liopoil, maybe?
WW should target someone else than BA does, who has enough dice to prove WW's role. Probably Arch?
I target someone, not sure yet... ideas?

Does everyone mentioned here agree to this?

PPE: BA, I answered your question before seeing it.

That doesn't even confirm mine.  Arch could just coincidentally not roll 10,11, 12.

WW, do NOT target me. As long as I don't have to roll today (and I'm pretty sure I won't have to), I'll be able to play 2 dice tomorrow and have my however many I rolled doubled. Taking out the 10, 11, 12 would seriously suck since I'd have the greatest chance of rolling and playing those numbers.

I also fear that I may be the NK regardless of whether we lynch or no lynch.

But there's no other good target; most of us will soon run out of dice. The only possibilty I see is WW targets the same person as liopoil. Maybe ash or PPS?

[Beyond Awesome]

Ash's plans are usually a little bit, more, uh.. I don't know, less WIFOM and more based on setup and roles.

Also, Ash could have lied, actually became permanently loved and made a BS story about using all of his dice for WIFOM reasons so that he wouldn't get lynched today and later on become unlynchable.

Yes, but why bring up the Lovedoctor at all today?

Also, can you explain to me if Ash were town why he would do what he did? What is the benefit of town Ash to do what he did and what is the benefit of scum Ash to do what he did?

He got reactions. although it was frustrating I will admit having those reactions can help finding scum.

You might have a point. I guess I am still pissed about that really long and annoying argument we had. I swear I was ready to lynch him right then and there. Is Ash always that annoying?

[faust]

Alright. I'm 90% sure that the two scum are in {faust, PPS, liopoil, ashersky}. 5% chance that Hydrad is scum and 5% chance that BA/WW really are scum. Looking at that, we have 5 options today:

Lynch faust: With his association with ash, he's moved up in my scum rankings. However, he has enough dice to perform an investigation for us if he's Town, or lie about one if he's scum. There is some WIFOM whether or not scum will kill him if he's Town and whether or not I'll actually give it to him. Plus, he's very unlikely to be the dice destroyer. Not an option.

Lynch PPS: What I want to do tbh. Has the most likely pairings and has played a very scummy game while not coming under too much scrutiny.

I honestly still don't see the scumminess of PPS. His posts seem very genuine.

Lynch liopoil: Leaving him alive will force him to pump more dice into circulation. He has laid very low... so low that he's flown relatively under the radar. However, the only paring that really makes sense starting with him is with ash because he's very unlikely to be the dice destroyer and ash is. Not an option.

Lynch ash: Hurst my ego a bit, but I'm less certain that he's scum. I still think that he could be the dice destroyer, but the whole ploy with the Love Doctor just seems so unlike ash and makes no sense if he's scum. Him possibly being the dice destroyer puts him as a good lynch option.

No Lynch: I smell something fishy with faust's no lynch plan. I agree with BA that there's no reason to no lynch if we have 2 perfect scum candidates and something could easily go wrong depending on who scum kill. Still, I'd rather do this than lynch liopoil or faust.

What is "something fishy"? Something can very easily go wrong if we mislynch today - we can lose the game! Are you that sure of your scum reads?

[faust]

So, Faust, here is what I am thinking.

If WW and I are scum, we are screwed no matter what and nothing we do will change anything. So, lynching between Ash and PPS makes the most sense.

So, we lynch one of them. You use the Mentalist to cop the one who wasn't lynched. Hydrad targets a player. I target the player Hydrad targets. I say what number is missing and Hydrad confirms that, thus confirming my power. WW targets someone with plenty of dice. That person rolls their dice and confirms WW's power. How is that? If we are scum, we are caught tomorrow no matter what whether we no lynch or lynch today. So, honestly, lynching has to be the better choice because I know WW and I are town, and it is better to take our chances and lynch between Ash and PPS than to give scum another NK.

PPE: 3

You're still ignoring that we might not have another mislynch!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[faust]

Looks like liopoil, WW, and I are the only ones of PPS's wagon.

Vote: PPS

i would lynch PPS also. just trying to rethink a couple things but if needed I would be willing to hammer

PLEASE DON'T!!!

[faust]

Looks like liopoil, WW, and I are the only ones of PPS's wagon.

Vote: PPS

i would lynch PPS also. just trying to rethink a couple things but if needed I would be willing to hammer

Okay, if you hammer PPS can you target Ash with your dice removing ability?

Ash does not have dice left.

[faust]

With all this emphasis on confirmed roles why is the plan consolidating around lynching the guy we can confirm and leaving alive the VT that cannot be confirmed?

Also, Ash can be just as confirmed as you with the Mentalist.

How so? I specified who I sent the Mentalist to and it was confirmed as well.

Faust claims he can cop someone with Mentalist.

And I can die!

[Beyond Awesome]

Looks like liopoil, WW, and I are the only ones of PPS's wagon.

Vote: PPS

i would lynch PPS also. just trying to rethink a couple things but if needed I would be willing to hammer

Okay, if you hammer PPS can you target Ash with your dice removing ability?

Ash does not have dice left.

I can still inspect players without dice. I can find out what they are capable of rolling if they had dice.

[faust]

Arch! Hydrad! liopoil! Please don't do this to me! We are so close to winning this, but if we lynch PPS, that is likely the last thing we ever do.

[faust]

Looks like liopoil, WW, and I are the only ones of PPS's wagon.

Vote: PPS

i would lynch PPS also. just trying to rethink a couple things but if needed I would be willing to hammer

Okay, if you hammer PPS can you target Ash with your dice removing ability?

Ash does not have dice left.

I can still inspect players without dice. I can find out what they are capable of rolling if they had dice.

Still, the more players can confirm, the better. Ash cannot confirm.

[Beyond Awesome]

Arch! Hydrad! liopoil! Please don't do this to me! We are so close to winning this, but if we lynch PPS, that is likely the last thing we ever do.

I want to lynch Ash Faust.

Here is my current lynch preference.

1. Ash
2. Lio
3. PPS
4. Arch