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[Beyond Awesome]

And, yes, you are loved because that was the option you chose.

[ashersky]

I never implied I was stolen from.  You added that context yourself.

See, I think you want to use this point to paint yourself cleaner than the guy who interpreted it as you being stolen from when in fact it is admission you used the dice, you know how and why you used the dice and you're not telling us how or why you used the dice.

I didn't "use" the dice.  I know what happened to the dice, though.  Love Doctor's fault.

That is not how the Love Doctor works. People can not use the Love Doctor to steal/destroy dice from another player. As far as Ichi makes it sound you have to target yourself. But, assuming even another player could be targeted, you would have to gain some benefit, since losing dice makes someone loved. So, right now, you are super lying Ash.

PPE: 3

You are making things up, man.  Who said you can use the love doc to steal/destroy dice?

You don't use the love doctor so much as pay him.  Give him 5 dice, receive permanent love in return.  Give him a lynch vote tomorrow, get 2 dice.

I'm super telling the truth and you'll feel like a doofus if you are town.  I'll forgive you after the game, though.

Okay, so why are you saying someone targeted you with him? Why not take the dice and just look townie?

Exactly.  Why didn't i do that?  Isn't that what scum does?  Or just keeps quiet?

I believe the NPCs are player-controlled.  I believe also that Love Doc should have been claimed by now.  Those who received him before me knew this danger lurked, but said nothing.

Maybe scum used it on themselves, but are limited in the number of times they can target?

I don't know the setup, but there are clearly variables that haven't been accounted for.

[Beyond Awesome]

If you did not lose dice nor gain dice, then you would be telling the truth. But, because you gave the Love Doctor dice that means you are lying scum and you are loved.

PPE

[ashersky]

And, yes, you are loved because that was the option you chose.

And you remain wrong.

Think outside your narrow constraints on this.

Does no one play Dominion?

[Beyond Awesome]

I never implied I was stolen from.  You added that context yourself.

See, I think you want to use this point to paint yourself cleaner than the guy who interpreted it as you being stolen from when in fact it is admission you used the dice, you know how and why you used the dice and you're not telling us how or why you used the dice.

I didn't "use" the dice.  I know what happened to the dice, though.  Love Doctor's fault.

That is not how the Love Doctor works. People can not use the Love Doctor to steal/destroy dice from another player. As far as Ichi makes it sound you have to target yourself. But, assuming even another player could be targeted, you would have to gain some benefit, since losing dice makes someone loved. So, right now, you are super lying Ash.

PPE: 3

You are making things up, man.  Who said you can use the love doc to steal/destroy dice?

You don't use the love doctor so much as pay him.  Give him 5 dice, receive permanent love in return.  Give him a lynch vote tomorrow, get 2 dice.

I'm super telling the truth and you'll feel like a doofus if you are town.  I'll forgive you after the game, though.

Okay, so why are you saying someone targeted you with him? Why not take the dice and just look townie?

Exactly.  Why didn't i do that?  Isn't that what scum does?  Or just keeps quiet?

I believe the NPCs are player-controlled.  I believe also that Love Doc should have been claimed by now.  Those who received him before me knew this danger lurked, but said nothing.

Maybe scum used it on themselves, but are limited in the number of times they can target?

I don't know the setup, but there are clearly variables that haven't been accounted for.

I have no idea what your strategy is or what you are trying to achieve Ash.

[ashersky]

If you did not lose dice nor gain dice, then you would be telling the truth. But, because you gave the Love Doctor dice that means you are lying scum and you are loved.

PPE

Was TR/Feast too difficult for you?

How about Torturer in the late game?  Do you always discard 2 cards?

[Beyond Awesome]

And, yes, you are loved because that was the option you chose.

And you remain wrong.

Think outside your narrow constraints on this.

Does no one play Dominion?

WW and Hydrad can also quote what Ichi said in the QT. That is what I am going off of. I trust Ichi a lot more than I trust you.

[Beyond Awesome]

If you did not lose dice nor gain dice, then you would be telling the truth. But, because you gave the Love Doctor dice that means you are lying scum and you are loved.

PPE

Was TR/Feast too difficult for you?

How about Torturer in the late game?  Do you always discard 2 cards?

What does TR/Feast have to do with the Love Doctor?

[pingpongsam]

Town ash would be so fed up with this by now he would have self-voted just to show BA how wrong he is.

[ashersky]

Ichimaru and I are in agreement on the choices offered by the Love Doctor.

[ashersky]

Town ash would be so fed up with this by now he would have self-voted just to show BA how wrong he is.

Nah.  I'm letting him dig a gigantic hole from which he will never be able to escape.  His embarrassment will be epic.

[Beyond Awesome]

Ichimaru and I are in agreement on the choices offered by the Love Doctor.

Yes. Which means you had to target yourself.

[Beyond Awesome]

And, you lost dice, so that means you are loved.

[ashersky]

BA, think this through.  Are there any other possibilities?

I had 4 dice in my supply at the beginning of the night.  I ended with zero.

[Archetype]

If ash is Town, he's being difficult on purpose. Otherwise he would explain why he lost his dice if it wasn't by the Love Doctor.

[ashersky]

If ash is Town, he's being difficult on purpose. Otherwise he would explain why he lost his dice if it wasn't by the Love Doctor.

It was "by" the Love Doctor.  I've said that.

[Beyond Awesome]

BA, think this through.  Are there any other possibilities?

I had 4 dice in my supply at the beginning of the night.  I ended with zero.

Okay, then explain to me what happened. Explain to me how someone else targeted you with the Love Doctor. Explain to me how you know what the 4 abilities of the Love Doctor are? If someone else targeted you, you should have not known? If someone sent the Love Doctor to you, you would know what those 4 abilities are. Options that give you dice means it takes one less vote to lynch you. Options that make you lose dice make it so you are loved. It is very simple. So, explain to me how someone targeted you, how you gained no benefit, and also how you know what the 4 abilities of the Love Doctor? Explain in a way that actually makes logical sense.

PPE

[pingpongsam]

If ash is Town, he's being difficult on purpose. Otherwise he would explain why he lost his dice if it wasn't by the Love Doctor.

It was "by" the Love Doctor.  I've said that.

Right, so explain how you lost dice "by" the LD without spending the dice to get Loved.

[Beyond Awesome]

If ash is Town, he's being difficult on purpose. Otherwise he would explain why he lost his dice if it wasn't by the Love Doctor.

It was "by" the Love Doctor.  I've said that.

So, how do you know his abilities then?

[ashersky]

If you choose to gain a curse, but there are no curses left in the supply, what happens?

[Beyond Awesome]

If ash is Town, he's being difficult on purpose. Otherwise he would explain why he lost his dice if it wasn't by the Love Doctor.

It was "by" the Love Doctor.  I've said that.

Right, so explain how you lost dice "by" the LD without spending the dice to get Loved.

This too. Please explain Ash. I am dying to know.

[ashersky]

If ash is Town, he's being difficult on purpose. Otherwise he would explain why he lost his dice if it wasn't by the Love Doctor.

It was "by" the Love Doctor.  I've said that.

So, how do you know his abilities then?

Because someone targeted me with the love doctor, resulting in him bring in my QT last night.

[ashersky]

If you choose to gain a curse, but there are no curses left in the supply, what happens?

Talking about the Torturer choice here, in case that wasn't clear.

[Beyond Awesome]

If you choose to gain a curse, but there are no curses left in the supply, what happens?

So, now what you are trying to say is that someone targeted you with the Love Doctor (not you), you somehow know the Love Doctor's abilities, and someone wanted to make you permanently loved and as a result, you lost 4 dice and gained no benefit. That still doesn't explain how you know the Love Doctor's abilities.

PPE

[ashersky]

If you choose to gain a curse, but there are no curses left in the supply, what happens?

So, now what you are trying to say is that someone targeted you with the Love Doctor (not you), you somehow know the Love Doctor's abilities, and someone wanted to make you permanently loved and as a result, you lost 4 dice and gained no benefit. That still doesn't explain how you know the Love Doctor's abilities.

PPE

I'm saying someone targeted me with the Love Doctor on N3, just like XP targeted me with The Mentalist on N2.

I don't know what that person wanted me to choose.

What are not understanding?  The Love Doctor is in my QT.