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[ashersky]

Folks are awful obtuse around here.

I was trying to find out who TARGETED me with the Love Doctor in the same way that Someone targeted me with The Mentalist, and like I targeted Arch with The Mentalist.

I highly doubt these NPCs aren't controlled by players.  It's almost impossible to balance basically randomly assigned powers mid game, so they are likely incarnations of night powers.

I'd assume some "my dice were stolen" claimants actually paid fees at night instead.  It's possible there's no dice destroyer at all.

As for my choice last night, trading Hated to gain dice may "seem" towny, but is pretty risky given the dice are wasted if you die.  A Hated claim isn't saving anyone.

And Loved?  That does zilch before Lylo, and is basically just a big Lynch Me sign on your back.

I went from 4 dice to zero.  I am neither hated nor loved.

[Witherweaver]

So you claimed to be targeted, said you knew you were targeted, but had no convincing evidence to show you that you were targeted?

And then blame us for coming to the "wrong" conclusions?

[ashersky]

So you claimed to be targeted, said you knew you were targeted, but had no convincing evidence to show you that you were targeted?

And then blame us for coming to the "wrong" conclusions?

What?

[ashersky]

I have a gigantic post in my QT showing I was targeted.  I just want to know who's in control.

[faust]

Folks are awful obtuse around here.

I was trying to find out who TARGETED me with the Love Doctor in the same way that Someone targeted me with The Mentalist, and like I targeted Arch with The Mentalist.

I highly doubt these NPCs aren't controlled by players.  It's almost impossible to balance basically randomly assigned powers mid game, so they are likely incarnations of night powers.

I'd assume some "my dice were stolen" claimants actually paid fees at night instead.  It's possible there's no dice destroyer at all.

As for my choice last night, trading Hated to gain dice may "seem" towny, but is pretty risky given the dice are wasted if you die.  A Hated claim isn't saving anyone.

And Loved?  That does zilch before Lylo, and is basically just a big Lynch Me sign on your back.

I went from 4 dice to zero.  I am neither hated nor loved.

So let me get this straight:

You think someone is lying about their role, because obviously noone claimed Love Doctor control. And you hoped to get that person to out themselves? Why would they do that?

Or, do you know that the Love Doctor was sent to you because you are able to send him to someone?

Lastly, do you claim to have lost four dice without actually doing anything?

[Witherweaver]

I have a gigantic post in my QT showing I was targeted.  I just want to know who's in control.

How does it show that you were targeted?

[Witherweaver]

I have a post in my QT that shows I was targeted.  It looks like this:

Supply: N
Stored: X

When previously the numbers were N+d and X, where I did nothing that could account for the loss in dice.

[ashersky]

I think multiple people are lying/hiding stuff about thier roles.

I cannot send the Doc on.  I assume the controller still lives (I got control of The Mentalist after XP died).

I lost four dice without gaining anything.

[ashersky]

I have a gigantic post in my QT showing I was targeted.  I just want to know who's in control.

How does it show that you were targeted?

Prove to me NPCs are not controlled.  We know The Mentalist is.  Show me how it makes sense none of the others are.

[Hydrad]

I think multiple people are lying/hiding stuff about thier roles.

I cannot send the Doc on.  I assume the controller still lives (I got control of The Mentalist after XP died).

I lost four dice without gaining anything.

Did you choose anything from the love doctor? Or do you think you lost the dice from something else

[ashersky]

Someone tell me what I get out of all this as scum?  Loved doesn't keep me alive today.  Extra dice do zilch for dead players.

I know why my actions are pro-town.  I want to know how they'd help scum me.

[Hydrad]

I have a gigantic post in my QT showing I was targeted.  I just want to know who's in control.

How does it show that you were targeted?

Prove to me NPCs are not controlled.  We know The Mentalist is.  Show me how it makes sense none of the others are.

The only reason I think they arnt controlled is that no one had claimed them. I don't see why they would fake claim to hide that ability. It's not something we are thinking scum controls so claiming them would probably make that person towny.

That's my reasoning. It just doesn't add up for me

[ashersky]

I think multiple people are lying/hiding stuff about thier roles.

I cannot send the Doc on.  I assume the controller still lives (I got control of The Mentalist after XP died).

I lost four dice without gaining anything.

Did you choose anything from the love doctor? Or do you think you lost the dice from something else

If anyone else targeted me, I might be able to answer.  Did anyone take my dice?

[Hydrad]

I think multiple people are lying/hiding stuff about thier roles.

I cannot send the Doc on.  I assume the controller still lives (I got control of The Mentalist after XP died).

I lost four dice without gaining anything.

Did you choose anything from the love doctor? Or do you think you lost the dice from something else

If anyone else targeted me, I might be able to answer.  Did anyone take my dice?

I didnt

[faust]

I think multiple people are lying/hiding stuff about thier roles.

I cannot send the Doc on.  I assume the controller still lives (I got control of The Mentalist after XP died).

I lost four dice without gaining anything.

Why would people lie (except they're scum)?

Do you know for sure that the dice loss was connected to the Love Doctor?

[ashersky]

I think multiple people are lying/hiding stuff about thier roles.

I cannot send the Doc on.  I assume the controller still lives (I got control of The Mentalist after XP died).

I lost four dice without gaining anything.

Why would people lie (except they're scum)?

Do you know for sure that the dice loss was connected to the Love Doctor?

People would lie as scum, yes.

You are the second person to phrase a question about my dice loss that way.  Worried a night action may have been caught?

[faust]

I think multiple people are lying/hiding stuff about thier roles.

I cannot send the Doc on.  I assume the controller still lives (I got control of The Mentalist after XP died).

I lost four dice without gaining anything.

Did you choose anything from the love doctor? Or do you think you lost the dice from something else

If anyone else targeted me, I might be able to answer.  Did anyone take my dice?

I didn't. And do you really think anyone is going to say they took your dice now?

[ashersky]

I have a gigantic post in my QT showing I was targeted.  I just want to know who's in control.

How does it show that you were targeted?

Prove to me NPCs are not controlled.  We know The Mentalist is.  Show me how it makes sense none of the others are.

The only reason I think they arnt controlled is that no one had claimed them. I don't see why they would fake claim to hide that ability. It's not something we are thinking scum controls so claiming them would probably make that person towny.

That's my reasoning. It just doesn't add up for me

It's an easy thing to cover up, as it's just an omission, not coming up with a lie.  The Mentalist was town-controlled, and it said so.  The others may be scum controlled, given it doesn't say.

[ashersky]

I think multiple people are lying/hiding stuff about thier roles.

I cannot send the Doc on.  I assume the controller still lives (I got control of The Mentalist after XP died).

I lost four dice without gaining anything.

Did you choose anything from the love doctor? Or do you think you lost the dice from something else

If anyone else targeted me, I might be able to answer.  Did anyone take my dice?

I didn't. And do you really think anyone is going to say they took your dice now?

Unfortunately not.

[faust]

... hm. Am I understanding correctly that Loved makes you unlynchable in 3- or 4-player-MyLo?

[ashersky]

Again, if I'm scum, what am I gaining through all this?  Everyone has mostly claimed, so unless I think town lied, there's nothing to role fish for.

[ashersky]

Loved adds a vote to L.  If L is 3, it takes 4.  So with 5/4 remaining, you'd need 4 votes.  With 3 remaining, you'd need to self-vote.

If you are the last remaining scum, you are only unlynchable at 3.  2 scum means unlynchable at 5 and below.

[Beyond Awesome]

Guys, Ash is lying through his teeth.

Hydrad can confirm what I am saying. According to Ichi, he had the choice of four options with the Love Doctor. No one sent the NPC to Ichi and he had no control over who the NPC was sent to. Also, Ichi did not mention the ability to target someone else with the Love Doctor. From the way Ichi was talking in the Council Room, it sounded as if he could only target himself with the Love Doctor.

[Beyond Awesome]

... hm. Am I understanding correctly that Loved makes you unlynchable in 3- or 4-player-MyLo?

That is correct Faust.

[ashersky]

If I'm loved scum, why did I bring ANY of this up?

I will say again, absolutely possible someone has lied about a loss of dice and in fact spent it on stuff.

What have the "stolen" numbers been?  Those could be lies, too, but I'm guessing there could have been fear that a dice counter existed.