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[Archetype]

So, the score is at 28 (37 with PPS role). Should I roll? Or do you guys think I should try to double play tomorrow?

We need 23 more to kill the monster. And there's 3 (Ichimaru Gin, faust, and myself. So, yeah. 3.) more people that need to roll. That means each person must roll a 7 or 8. And then we have Ichimaru's reroll power.

I guess we'll just wait and see to know if I'll have to roll. I find Ichimaru and faust pretty towny, so I'm alright letting them be the people to decide whether or not I play a die.

[ashersky]

Can someone please point me to where faust got so many town points from everyone?  What has he actually done that's towny?

He's got town reads from my top scumreads (lio, arch-mi) too.

But it just seems like everybody swallowed a gallon of faust-flavored koolaid.

[pingpongsam]

Can someone please point me to where faust got so many town points from everyone?  What has he actually done that's towny?

He's got town reads from my top scumreads (lio, arch-mi) too.

But it just seems like everybody swallowed a gallon of faust-flavored koolaid.

The odd thing to me about this is that you got the mentalist visit too. Look at faust's D1 play regarding this and tell me how that is not a town response. You implicate that he isn't town but won't actually say he isn't and put your vote where your insinuation is.

[ashersky]

Can someone please point me to where faust got so many town points from everyone?  What has he actually done that's towny?

He's got town reads from my top scumreads (lio, arch-mi) too.

But it just seems like everybody swallowed a gallon of faust-flavored koolaid.

The odd thing to me about this is that you got the mentalist visit too. Look at faust's D1 play regarding this and tell me how that is not a town response. You implicate that he isn't town but won't actually say he isn't and put your vote where your insinuation is.

What was faust's D1 play regarding the Mentalist?  I'm interested, because there was zero talk of the Mentalist until Day 2.  So for you to claim that Faust did something Mentalist-related on Day 1 would mean you or he or both had insider information regarding the role BEFORE it was made public on Day 2.

[ashersky]

For reference, on Day 2, XP claimed to target Faust N0 and PPS on N1.

Faust then asks "Xerxes, do you have any information about a role called "The Advisor"?"

XP confirms he is the Advisor.

That's the extent of "Faust's play regarding this."

[ashersky]

So no, I see zero redeeming town actions in that one question where he OUTS XP's role to the game.

[Witherweaver]

XP and Faust dropped something in cryptic messages on Day 1.

[liopoil]

Faust declared himself 95% sure XP was town on D1 based off of XP targeting him. Faust also persuaded me away from voting for XP. did you really miss this ashersky?

[ashersky]

Faust declared himself 95% sure XP was town on D1 based off of XP targeting him. Faust also persuaded me away from voting for XP. did you really miss this ashersky?

But that says nothing about alignment, people.  If faust is scum, of course he knows that XP is town.  And he didn't know that XP targeted him UNTIL D2 when XP claimed.

[ashersky]

Faust declared himself 95% sure XP was town on D1 based off of XP targeting him. Faust also persuaded me away from voting for XP. did you really miss this ashersky?

But that says nothing about alignment, people.  If faust is scum, of course he knows that XP is town.  And he didn't know that XP targeted him UNTIL D2 when XP claimed.

And if Faust is claiming to have learned the identity of the Advisor on N0, that's hard to believe.  It cost 10 in store dice value to learn that information, and we couldn't roll dice before Day 1.

If anything, all this points to Faust being SCUM, as he claims to have known information he couldn't know.

[Beyond Awesome]

So, the score is at 28 (37 with PPS role). Should I roll? Or do you guys think I should try to double play tomorrow?

We need 23 more to kill the monster. And there's 3 (Ichimaru Gin, faust, and myself. So, yeah. 3.) more people that need to roll. That means each person must roll a 7 or 8. And then we have Ichimaru's reroll power.

I guess we'll just wait and see to know if I'll have to roll. I find Ichimaru and faust pretty towny, so I'm alright letting them be the people to decide whether or not I play a die.

I also have not yet rolled either. So, you can hold off until everyone else has rolled and see what happens.

[liopoil]

Ash, you clearly have not read their exchange on D1.

[ashersky]

Ash, you clearly have not read their exchange on D1.

I opened the Print screen and ctrl-F for Advisor and Mentalist, neither of which come up until D2.

[liopoil]

Yes, they did not use those terms on D1.

[ashersky]

This is fun, XP on D1:

This is really what I like about RMM games. I think I can piece together lots of things, but things are still complicated.

BTW, if I claim, I would be able to make myself an IC, but then I'd die and scum would get some information.

Right now, I'm very sure that PPS and faust are both town. I also think ash is town, but I'm not as sure.

Last, perhaps if both PPS and I claim, scum won't be able to kill both ICs in a single night, so we'll have two today and 1 tomorrow. How useful is that?

The three people named are the three he targeted with the Mentalist.

[ashersky]

This is stupid. Now that you said it, you are going to die, so you could as well full claim. Other than that, I think you best stop talking about roles.

Here is faust's response to that post by XP.  Wow, so towny.

This is about as scummy as it gets, people.

[ashersky]

That's it for "interaction" around his role.  That's based on ctrl-f for XP's posts.

Please someone point out what I'm missing, because all I see is a one-liner rolefish from faust.

[liopoil]

Come on ash, that's not it, keep reading. I can't quote it for you on my phone.

[ashersky]

Come on ash, that's not it, keep reading. I can't quote it for you on my phone.

For you, a series of quotes:

XP:

Okay, tell me if you know of a particular role. I've thought about it for the long night and trust me, this is definitely worth it. If you know about but are not the role that I'm thinking about, say so.

Faust:

This seems genuine. I trust that you know what you're doing.

I know about the role you seem to be talking about.

XP:

I think I know what alignment someone has based on their role, but I probably shouldn't trust my guess that much.

I'm getting towny vibes from both Faust and ash.
vote: IG

XP:

This is really what I like about RMM games. I think I can piece together lots of things, but things are still complicated.

BTW, if I claim, I would be able to make myself an IC, but then I'd die and scum would get some information.

Right now, I'm very sure that PPS and faust are both town. I also think ash is town, but I'm not as sure.

Last, perhaps if both PPS and I claim, scum won't be able to kill both ICs in a single night, so we'll have two today and 1 tomorrow. How useful is that?

Faust:

This is stupid. Now that you said it, you are going to die, so you could as well full claim. Other than that, I think you best stop talking about roles.

That's the entire "conversation" on XP's role.

[Jimmmmm]

pingpongsam plays a 9
Score: 37

[ashersky]

Liopoil actually votes XP after that series, btw.  Says he thinks it's all fake based on OP information.

[faust]

Are you saying liopoil is conf town to you?

I'm saying I'm rather sure I know what lio's role does, and it's not dice destruction.

...unless... I just thought of something. I guess it would help to hear lio's claim.

[pingpongsam]

Of this I feel confident, one of ashersky or liopoil is scum and likely not both. Which one to lynch I am wholly lost on. Lately I am preferring ashersky but I am having trouble believing scum!ashersky would be so obtuse.

[pingpongsam]

Also, I still can't wrap my head around how a town!chairs would take the actions he did; just inscrutably scummy actions.

[pingpongsam]

After some deliberation in the shower I believe ashersky won't directly affront Faust because he knows he will flip town and then he will be the obvious lynch the next day. Instead he wants to paint anyone, like myself, who champions Faust as town as either being lazy and stupid or the scum partner.

Vote: ashersky