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Yeah I am still down for Vote: yuma

His claim smacked of a lie off the bat. My role directly inserts an 8 sided die into a players supply and thus corresponds with BA's claim.

I am down with vote: yuma.  Not so sure about vote: e though.

Technically, this is a self-vote, so you need to vote yourself now (again).  However, I am not counting it as it seems to actually just be a correction of pps's vote and yuma is not actually in the game anymore.  Vote again if you intended something else!  (it would be better to avoid voting syntax altogether unless you actually mean to vote)

sorry. 
unvote for now until i catch up on the rest of the thread

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I guess there wasn't much left of the thread. so vote: BA

[ashersky]

Claimed roles...

Swindler, Thief, Priest, Arms Inspector.

One of these four is not like the other.

[Ichimaru Gin]

haha. Yeah stupid of me to pursue that "scumslip".

Some thoughts.

faust is signficantly more townie in my eyes. Even though I still disagree with his scumhunting D1, I very much support his methods today, focusing on interactions with Voltaire. Though other players seem as if they are trying to derail that, I think it's our best chance of catching actual scum.

I've already full-claimed, but do not really support a massclaim right now.

Right now, the person I find scummiest is e. So that is where I will voting. vote: e

[Ichimaru Gin]

The beastmaster thing is a much better "scumslip" argument, but I'm not sure about it here.. I believe a scum player (especially a new one) could definitely slip their role name if they're trying to project someone else as having that role.. sometimes you don't keep in your mind what's known and what isn't known.  Though it seemed as just a made up phrase to communication what possible scum roles could be.

Better than a non-existent one basically. I think the hydrad scumslip argument sucks.

[Witherweaver]

Claimed roles...

Swindler, Thief, Priest, Arms Inspector.

One of these four is not like the other.

Well, good point.  Maybe claim flavor names?

I think the first game had Dominion card names and noncard names.

[liopoil]

Claimed roles...

Swindler, Thief, Priest, Arms Inspector.

One of these four is not like the other.

Well, good point.  Maybe claim flavor names?

I think the first game had Dominion card names and noncard names.

wouldn't that out all the VTs as VT?

[Witherweaver]

I'm not sure, actually.  Last game I think VTs had flavor names.

[Hydrad]

BoxOfDog has been killed. He was a Vanilla Townie.

Looks like there is just normal vanilla townies in this one

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Claimed roles...

Swindler, Thief, Priest, Arms Inspector.

One of these four is not like the other.

Well, good point.  Maybe claim flavor names?

I think the first game had Dominion card names and noncard names.

wouldn't that out all the VTs as VT?

THIS IS RMM.  EVERYONE HAS A ROLE

[Hydrad]

THIS IS RMM.  EVERYONE HAS A ROLE

doesn't look like it. unless vanilla townie did something else?

[liopoil]

Claimed roles...

Swindler, Thief, Priest, Arms Inspector.

One of these four is not like the other.

Well, good point.  Maybe claim flavor names?

I think the first game had Dominion card names and noncard names.

wouldn't that out all the VTs as VT?

THIS IS RMM.  EVERYONE HAS A ROLE

...except BoxOfDog? Jimmmmm also confirmed there is at least one player without a role in the second post.

[ashersky]

THIS IS RMM.  EVERYONE HAS A ROLE

Now we know that you are scum or a town PR.

[Hydrad]

THIS IS RMM.  EVERYONE HAS A ROLE

Now we know that you are scum or a town PR.

Don't we already know what he is?

[liopoil]

THIS IS RMM.  EVERYONE HAS A ROLE

Now we know that you are scum or a town PR.

he already claimed... Have you read the thread?

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Claimed roles...

Swindler, Thief, Priest, Arms Inspector.

One of these four is not like the other.

Well, good point.  Maybe claim flavor names?

I think the first game had Dominion card names and noncard names.

wouldn't that out all the VTs as VT?

THIS IS RMM.  EVERYONE HAS A ROLE

...except BoxOfDog? Jimmmmm also confirmed there is at least one player without a role in the second post.

oh.  yeah i missed that. 

and of course i have a role.  I am the thief

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and the box kill- i just focused in on the fact that he was town.  kind of forgot about him just being a VT


but if Jimmmm said one person doesnt have a role, then we have found that person.  kind of opportunistic of scum to kill him

[Hydrad]

and the box kill- i just focused in on the fact that he was town.  kind of forgot about him just being a VT


but if Jimmmm said one person doesnt have a role, then we have found that person.  kind of opportunistic of scum to kill him

I think Jimm said at least one person will be VT. so there could be more

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At least one player has a role related to the dice and/or fighting the Monsters. At least one player does not. If you do not have a specific role, do not fear! There is still plenty for you to do. There may or may not be traditional Mafia roles.

I definitely just skimmed over that part when I was reading.  I don't think it changes anything really.

[Hydrad]

At least one player has a role related to the dice and/or fighting the Monsters. At least one player does not. If you do not have a specific role, do not fear! There is still plenty for you to do. There may or may not be traditional Mafia roles.

I definitely just skimmed over that part when I was reading.  I don't think it changes anything really.

Ya i feel like there might be 1 other VT out there if any. I highly doubt there are 2 or more still alive

[pingpongsam]

THIS IS RMM.  EVERYONE HAS A ROLE

Now we know that you are scum or a town PR.

This could be a scum slip. Scum wants this type of info at night to make their NK decision but it is basically irrelevant during the day since it's more about lining up the mislynch and any reason will do. Forgetting that a specific person has claimed a role and that pages of discussion surrounds it is something a town mind should be infinitely less apt to do than the scum mind.

[ashersky]

THIS IS RMM.  EVERYONE HAS A ROLE

Now we know that you are scum or a town PR.

This could be a scum slip. Scum wants this type of info at night to make their NK decision but it is basically irrelevant during the day since it's more about lining up the mislynch and any reason will do. Forgetting that a specific person has claimed a role and that pages of discussion surrounds it is something a town mind should be infinitely less apt to do than the scum mind.

Yep, I'm scum, you caught me.  Lynch me now.

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THIS IS RMM.  EVERYONE HAS A ROLE

Now we know that you are scum or a town PR.

This could be a scum slip. Scum wants this type of info at night to make their NK decision but it is basically irrelevant during the day since it's more about lining up the mislynch and any reason will do. Forgetting that a specific person has claimed a role and that pages of discussion surrounds it is something a town mind should be infinitely less apt to do than the scum mind.

Yep, I'm scum, you caught me.  Lynch me now.

Really?  awesome.  vote: ashersky

But seriously.  Why has the word "scumslip" come up so much in this game?  It defies logic. 

Oh well.  Back to the real scum.  vote: BA

[ashersky]

What's the actual "case" on BA?

I think his claim is scummy and quite possibly fake, so I can see lynching him for that.  I don't see what the big deal was before that.

I think liopoil is obv!scum, hydrad scumslipped into scum, and BA fakeclaimed himself as scum.  I think PPS has been super scummy in defense of scummy players.  Obviously that can't all be right, and town sometimes seems scummy, of course, but those are pretty strong reads.

I've felt BA has been pretty normal newbie for most of this game, until he claimed without pressure with a really crappy fake role.

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In other news: mail-mi is online!

my question: when is your camping trip thing that is supposed to take all week?  because if you leave tomorrow, you should be back in time for D3 (you may miss the first bit of the day but that should be all right).  I know it is a terrible position to be in, but mcmc managed to leave chocolate factory for a long time and come back.  (scum did win that game though)