The case on yuma/e1. The claimPPS claims having dice "stolen"
early on. yuma does not respond to this at all. I think that a town Thief would like, have some kind of reaction to the fact that someone else claims to be targeted with his power. But no, there's nothing. In the same way, he does not show any surprise at all when BA claims that his supply was attacked. He only claims after I tell him to.
Really: If I was a town Thief and a player claims to be attacked by my power, my reactions would be:
1) Wow, so scum seems to have a Redirector!
2) PPS is probably lying.
This seems information worth sharing, especially seeing that yuma was already an advocate of mass-claiming. I would definitely not just keep this to myself, also because Thief is kind of crappy as a town power and thus it doesn't matter much if outed.
One last thing: town!yuma would know he's a really good scum night kill target. It seems that if you know you're likely to be nightkilled, you wouldn't want to accumulate lots of dice that you steal from other players who are probably town as well.
2. Behaviour towards Voltaireyuma starts
defending Ichi relatively early, saying low dice rolls are not suspicious. This is scummy, considering that it also defends Voltaire.
Here is another post where he defends low rolling and instead tries to throw suspicion on players who attacked Voltaire.
3. e's interactions todayI'm ignoring e's initial read posts for this. If I was joining a game halfway through, I'd do the reread before looking up my scum partners, so that it seems more genuine. So I doubt there's much information to be gained.
Here, e states that it is "very likely" that scum is on-wagon. His reasoning for it is merely that it is possible that scum vote for their partners on D1. Well, yes, but how does this make it "very likely" that it happened here? I think e just wants to divert attention from himself.
I already went on a rant on why e not agreeing to Cop PPS is supremely scummy. When I call him out for not considering PPS as scum, all he has in response is
"scumslips don't exist". It seems like he wants people to forget this because he knows how bad he looks there. The next post I will fully quote:
Also, e, your above post is nonsensical. I am talking about using you as a 1-shot Cop, and you say "but Cops are useless"! Do you seriously think that a Cop is weaker than your dice-stealing power?
Cops? I stay away from cops [as a rule] being the town thief. Cops just don't understand people like me.
In all seriousness though, claiming cop and claiming thief are two totally different things, and you trying to equate them is kind of ridiculous. Sure, alternative powers can be used in a cop-like manner, but it is just not the same.
We want as many people to roll when fighting against monsters. What you propose guarantees that one of our number cannot roll. You yourself said D1 that we need to discourage low rolls, and that was a major part of your longstanding case against ichi. Well, what you propose is even worse than encouraging a low roll, you are encouraging a non-roll. It is totally possible that PPS might gain dice overnight. I do not want to tamper with that.
First thing is a kind of nervous joke. He then states Copping and using his power are "not the same" without reasoning. Next he says he does not want to prevent PPS from gaining dice. I don't know about you, but I'm willing to trade a Cop result for a slightly reduced chance to beat the monster tomorrow any time. Also, he still never seems to consider that PPS is lying, which, by point 1 of this case, is something that should be rather probable for him.
The next suspicious post:
I call e's above quote a scumslip if there ever was one.
vote: faust
scumslips don't exist. But, as I actually think faust is town right now, unvote
And I do like a vote: faust until we get some answers from him
This happens within <4 hours, with no reason for your suddenly changed mind.
I am not going to answer your questions, because I do not think it is in town's best interest to answer them.
Ok, thanks. That is a good enough answer for me. I mean, that is basically the same answer I gave you, so it would be hypocritical if I refuse your answer while maintaining my own.
unvote
And now to look into why Ashersky is voting liopoil
Really? First he finds me not giving answers scummy enough to change from a town read to voting me, and when I give the standard response to being mysterious, that I would have given regardless of alignment and was totally to be expected, he suddenly backs off.
So here's (I think) very compelling evidence for e being scum. What do other think?