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[liopoil]

They aren't called beasts.

Jimmmmm used the term in flavor once.

no, e and ichi are not other scumreads

[ashersky]

They aren't called beasts.

Jimmmmm used the term in flavor once.

no, e and ichi are not other scumreads

Where?


And why are you defending him so much?  He hasn't tried to defend himself.  Caught scum disappears.

[2.71828.....]

control scum has over the beast

this too. ichi used "mafia beastman" as well.

The quote from me was immediately after hydrad said beastmaster and was on my mind.  If you take any more of that quote you will realize I used monster every other time.

Really, I think using "beast master" as a specific terminology would come from someone making up a role, because "monster" is clearly the correct terminology for our enemies and "monster" [probably] would have been used in any official PM. 

In any case, I seriously doubt such a role exists for a single scum because that just seems really weak and then also if that scum were to die then the mafia would now have 0 control over the monster and I just don't think that happens.  I think it is probably just something scum make a collective decision about in their qt about who (and maybe even when) the monster will attack the following day.

[Hydrad]

They aren't called beasts.

Jimmmmm used the term in flavor once.

no, e and ichi are not other scumreads

Where?


And why are you defending him so much?  He hasn't tried to defend himself.  Caught scum disappears.

Actually I just had to eat so I'm back now.

I came up with beastmaster after ichi used the term mafia beastman. I figured it was a easy term that many people would understand what I meant without me explaining that. "the person that controls the monsters" was just annoying to type so I shortned it to beastmaster.

[liopoil]

With the swing of a giant club, EFHW was squashed flat. And there behind her stood an enormous Troll!

ashersky, chairs, yuma, mail-mi, BoxOfDog, Voltaire, faust, XerxesPraelor, Witherweaver, Beyond Awesome, Ichimaru Gin, liopoil, Hydrad and pingpongsam stared in shock. How did the beast know where to find them?

For ash.

Really this is silly though. e is right, it's probably factional.

[ashersky]

control scum has over the beast

this too. ichi used "mafia beastman" as well.

The quote from me was immediately after hydrad said beastmaster and was on my mind.  If you take any more of that quote you will realize I used monster every other time.

Really, I think using "beast master" as a specific terminology would come from someone making up a role, because "monster" is clearly the correct terminology for our enemies and "monster" [probably] would have been used in any official PM. 

In any case, I seriously doubt such a role exists for a single scum because that just seems really weak and then also if that scum were to die then the mafia would now have 0 control over the monster and I just don't think that happens.  I think it is probably just something scum make a collective decision about in their qt about who (and maybe even when) the monster will attack the following day.

Unless you are wrong.

I can see Beastmaster being a day power for a scum player.  It's probably unblockable, untraceable, etc.  pretty strong, depending on the monster.  The "only one guy can do it" argument is terrible, as all PRs work that way.  You can't argue the Roleblocker was underpowered because only Voltaire could use it.

[ashersky]

With the swing of a giant club, EFHW was squashed flat. And there behind her stood an enormous Troll!

ashersky, chairs, yuma, mail-mi, BoxOfDog, Voltaire, faust, XerxesPraelor, Witherweaver, Beyond Awesome, Ichimaru Gin, liopoil, Hydrad and pingpongsam stared in shock. How did the beast know where to find them?

For ash.

Really this is silly though. e is right, it's probably factional.

Doesn't this just make it more sensible that beastmaster could be the role?

[2.71828.....]

With the swing of a giant club, EFHW was squashed flat. And there behind her stood an enormous Troll!

ashersky, chairs, yuma, mail-mi, BoxOfDog, Voltaire, faust, XerxesPraelor, Witherweaver, Beyond Awesome, Ichimaru Gin, liopoil, Hydrad and pingpongsam stared in shock. How did the beast know where to find them?

For ash.

Really this is silly though. e is right, it's probably factional.

Doesn't this just make it more sensible that beastmaster could be the role?

uh, no

[ashersky]

Hey is it factional?  You'd need to be able to discuss during the day, then.  It's neutered without daychat.

Makes much more sense as a singular day power.

[ashersky]

There is zero reason for anyone to use "Beastmaster" in conversation unless they knew it existed.

Hydrad is the Beastmaster, liopoil is his defensive partner.  2.7 is fighting for lio's spot on the roster.

[Hydrad]

Hey is it factional?  You'd need to be able to discuss during the day, then.  It's neutered without daychat.

Makes much more sense as a singular day power.

Do we know if mafia has day chat? or is that something that they would be told in their personal pms usually.

PPE: 1

[liopoil]

If anything, mafia beastman makes more sense than beastmaster, which is what ichimaru said.

Well now I'm sorry I asked why ash voted for Hydrad. Should have just ignored his antics like I usually do...

[Hydrad]

There is zero reason for anyone to use "Beastmaster" in conversation unless they knew it existed.

Hydrad is the Beastmaster, liopoil is his defensive partner.  2.7 is fighting for lio's spot on the roster.

Ok I realize I'm new but I highly doubt anyone even a new player would use a their term like that.

[ashersky]

If anything, mafia beastman makes more sense than beastmaster, which is what ichimaru said.

Well now I'm sorry I asked why ash voted for Hydrad. Should have just ignored his antics like I usually do...

Beastman?  Makes zero sense.

Beastmaster?  Master of the beasts.  Makes more than zero sense.

Liopoil, by the way, has been playing like aloof, caught but please don't notice me, scum since I zeroed in on him.

[ashersky]

There is zero reason for anyone to use "Beastmaster" in conversation unless they knew it existed.

Hydrad is the Beastmaster, liopoil is his defensive partner.  2.7 is fighting for lio's spot on the roster.

Ok I realize I'm new but I highly doubt anyone even a new player would use a their term like that.

You are absolutely right.  Not even a new player would use a term like that.

THEN WHY DID YOU USE IT??

Because you know it exists.  That is my argument, and you just defended it and proved it.

[Hydrad]

There is zero reason for anyone to use "Beastmaster" in conversation unless they knew it existed.

Hydrad is the Beastmaster, liopoil is his defensive partner.  2.7 is fighting for lio's spot on the roster.

Ok I realize I'm new but I highly doubt anyone even a new player would use a their term like that.

You are absolutely right.  Not even a new player would use a term like that.

THEN WHY DID YOU USE IT??

Because you know it exists.  That is my argument, and you just defended it and proved it.

I used it because I felt its just a word shortner instead of saying a phrase everytime I wanted to talk about the "beastmaster" I could just use that one word.

Also If really needed I can claim my role which is not the beastmaster and would have a high chance of being able to prove it too.

[ashersky]

There is zero reason for anyone to use "Beastmaster" in conversation unless they knew it existed.

Hydrad is the Beastmaster, liopoil is his defensive partner.  2.7 is fighting for lio's spot on the roster.

Ok I realize I'm new but I highly doubt anyone even a new player would use a their term like that.

You are absolutely right.  Not even a new player would use a term like that.

THEN WHY DID YOU USE IT??

Because you know it exists.  That is my argument, and you just defended it and proved it.

I used it because I felt its just a word shortner instead of saying a phrase everytime I wanted to talk about the "beastmaster" I could just use that one word.

Also If really needed I can claim my role which is not the beastmaster and would have a high chance of being able to prove it too.

Obviously you would claim a different role.  For you scum partner's sake, I'd wait until you are closer to lynch before fake claiming, though.

[ashersky]

My good deeds are done for the day.

Will still lynch lio, obv.

[liopoil]

Yeah, poor scumpartner

[Hydrad]

Ok then asher just a question. Pretend I was town and actually had a different role and could pretty much prove it. Should I claim it then?

[ashersky]

Ok then asher just a question. Pretend I was town and actually had a different role and could pretty much prove it. Should I claim it then?

Definitely not.  You've already said too much if you are town, as then real scum would know to kill you.

No reason to give them more information.  If you were a town PR, you'd definitely not claim until required (L-1).

[Hydrad]

Ok then asher just a question. Pretend I was town and actually had a different role and could pretty much prove it. Should I claim it then?

Definitely not.  You've already said too much if you are town, as then real scum would know to kill you.

No reason to give them more information.  If you were a town PR, you'd definitely not claim until required (L-1).

PR means power role right?

I think my claim would be fine then as I do not feel it is a power role. Its useful but not nearly as gamechanging as others.

[ashersky]

Ok then asher just a question. Pretend I was town and actually had a different role and could pretty much prove it. Should I claim it then?

Definitely not.  You've already said too much if you are town, as then real scum would know to kill you.

No reason to give them more information.  If you were a town PR, you'd definitely not claim until required (L-1).

PR means power role right?

I think my claim would be fine then as I do not feel it is a power role. Its useful but not nearly as gamechanging as others.

PR stands for power role but really means anything other than Vanilla Townie.

Useful is still better than Vanilla Townie.  That means losing a useful role is better for scum. 

Why are you so keen to claim?

[Hydrad]

Ok then asher just a question. Pretend I was town and actually had a different role and could pretty much prove it. Should I claim it then?

Definitely not.  You've already said too much if you are town, as then real scum would know to kill you.

No reason to give them more information.  If you were a town PR, you'd definitely not claim until required (L-1).

PR means power role right?

I think my claim would be fine then as I do not feel it is a power role. Its useful but not nearly as gamechanging as others.

PR stands for power role but really means anything other than Vanilla Townie.

Useful is still better than Vanilla Townie.  That means losing a useful role is better for scum. 

Why are you so keen to claim?

I guess i'm keen to claim so that we can use your vote in a more useful way then on me. But ok i'll take your advice and not claim for a bit

[liopoil]

For once I agree with ashersky - claiming is bad unless there is a clear benefit it will give to town. giving you towncred doesn't count because you aren't getting lynched anyway.