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[EFHW]

Vote Count 1.3

mail-mi (1): ashersky
Ichimaru Gin (4): faust, Beyond Awesome, Witherweaver, Voltaire
XerxesPraelor (1): liopoil
Beyond Awesome (1): XerxesPraelor
Voltaire (1): mail-mi
faust (1): Ichimaru Gin

not voting (5): chairs, yuma,  BoxOfDog, Hydrad, pingpongsam

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

Evening begins on July 1 at 4pm forum time.
Day 1 ends on July 3 at 4pm forum time.

Target: 1000
Score: 910 789

[Jimmmmm]

Score: 789

[Hydrad]

wait are we at 789 or 910?

[Jimmmmm]

Score: 789

[Hydrad]

If its gone from 910 to 789 it looks like we lost a roll of 11 somewhere? maybe someones dice got rerolled again.

[Beyond Awesome]

If its gone from 910 to 789 it looks like we lost a roll of 11 somewhere? maybe someones dice got rerolled again.

Either that, or they can outright remove a die from the equation. Anyway, all I have to say is ouch!

[Hydrad]

If its gone from 910 to 789 it looks like we lost a roll of 11 somewhere? maybe someones dice got rerolled again.

Either that, or they can outright remove a die from the equation. Anyway, all I have to say is ouch!

Which is interesting that they took out a 11 instead of your 12. unless maybe they have a restriction that doesn't allow them to take out certain numbers?

[Beyond Awesome]

If its gone from 910 to 789 it looks like we lost a roll of 11 somewhere? maybe someones dice got rerolled again.

Either that, or they can outright remove a die from the equation. Anyway, all I have to say is ouch!

Which is interesting that they took out a 11 instead of your 12. unless maybe they have a restriction that doesn't allow them to take out certain numbers?

I was thinking the same thing. Or, they want to draw suspicion on me. I am not sure which. But, I 100% agree that it is odd that both times my 12 has been unaffected.

[ashersky]

mail-mi better roll.

[XerxesPraelor]

Play: 11

[faust]

Play: 11

What happened?

[faust]

Townread on mail-mi. Exposing the different standards that faust is using. It's useful to hear about the previous game, but I'm not sure if scum would take the same tack. They probably know the scum meta for the last one and would do something different.

I'm going to vote: faust. For obviously biased application of his theories.

Can you explain this vote? I don't understand it.

[faust]

Gosh darn it! Look. I play a "low" number and a get a ton of heat for it. Volt plays an even lower number and gets no suspicion at all!

Can't you see it?!

Seriously. This is the worst wagon on me that I've ever seen.

Next thing you're going to say "you're susecting me for all the wrong reasons!"

[faust]

I think it is extremely bad to claim # of dice rolled/results etc. with the thief/meddling roles that appear to exist here.

What does this make you think of faust's pressure for me to tell me how many dice I rolled?
I know he's a smart and experienced player, so I think he would know this as well.

Expand. Why was it "extremely bad" in Ichi's case to get that information? (This is directed to both Voltaire and Ichi)

[faust]

faust answering your question shows that there is something different about him from the other townies. You didn't actually vote for me before I voted for you, and my vote was completely unrelated. I don't know why you would find my vote suspicious other than OMGUS, or is your vote RVS? there is also some irony to it, because you only voted for me after I voted for you.

I don't get the townreads on Xerxes. I'm not sure I've ever played with XP, so maybe he has some meta I don't know about, but for now my vote stands.

Trust me, Xerxes is not scum.

[faust]

I really think mail-mi should roll before BoxOfDog. He has made himself a premier night kill target, and night kills are even better for scum if they take down a lot of dice. So have two options:

1) mail-mi is telling the truth. In this case, he won't live long and should use his dice before he dies.
2) mail-mi is lying scum. In which case of course we should urge him to roll dice.

[faust]

Good thing about this scenario is: We know two scum roles with relative certainty, Thief and Reroller. With only 3 mafia in total, that means there's only one more role we have to worry about.

[Hydrad]

Good thing about this scenario is: We know two scum roles with relative certainty, Thief and Reroller. With only 3 mafia in total, that means there's only one more role we have to worry about.

Could you tell me what the certain restrictions and abilities of thief and reroller are? I'm just curious so I know how to play around them or what to expect

[XerxesPraelor]

No, we don't know what they are, we've just observed what's happened to our rolls. My 11, for example, got rerolled, but luckily. I got an 11 the second time too.

[faust]

Good thing about this scenario is: We know two scum roles with relative certainty, Thief and Reroller. With only 3 mafia in total, that means there's only one more role we have to worry about.

Could you tell me what the certain restrictions and abilities of thief and reroller are? I'm just curious so I know how to play around them or what to expect

For an answer, look at wht Xerxes said. Other than that, this post screams town to me.

[faust]

I'll take a look at the player field.

ashersky - well, the way he started the game was strange. But there was not much else that caught my suspicion.

chairs - lurking (well, we are only 2 days into the game, so maye this is unfair). I'll wait for more input.

yuma - also waiting for more posts when he's back from VLA.

mail-mi - I think he's more likely town than scum. Im taking him out of my lynch pool assuming that he will roll next. I just don't see scum!mail-mi pulling that kind of gambit.

BoxOfDog - well, nothing, so we have to wait. Considering that scum already took actions, while he never even posted, gives me a slight town read.

Voltaire - gives me a scummy vibe in this game. He rolled quite low, and acted sort of sheepish towards the Ichi wagon. Also, OMGUS.

faust - me

XerxesPraelor - almost certainly town.

Witherweaver - is his usual self. I have no read one way or the other.

Beyond Awesome - has this thing going where he just doesn't get rerolled. If scum really wants us to not defeat the monster, taking out 144 is just a lot better than taking out 121 or 100. I'm not sure they would skip that for WIFOM reasons only. Also, I found his read on PPS strange.

Ichimaru Gin - probably scum. Low roll, defensiveness, weakly explained OMGUS, little effort in scumhunting. A good place for my vote.

liopoil - not sure yet. I get a sort of townie feeling, but nothing solid.

Hydrad - looks townie, see above.

pingpongsam - I don't think he's making all this stuff about dice stealing up. Plus, if scum has that power, they will likely continue to use it, so we can confirm him being targeted.

[faust]

Ichimaru, Voltaire, BA are my top suspects right now.

[pingpongsam]

Ichimaru, Voltaire, BA are my top suspects right now.

I would tend to agree with these reads as well. My biggest issue with them is my complete lack of past experience with 2 of the 3. The only time I am sure where Voltaire stands is when I am scum. That said, he is typically protown regardless of alignment and he doesn't strike me as being so much this game. For the time being I have no read strong enough to vote on.

[liopoil]

The way I see it, mail-mi better prove to us that he has a role that benefits from not rolling in the next couple days. if he doesn't, we lynch him. Until then, I don't like the idea of weakening a likely town PR.

[liopoil]

faust answering your question shows that there is something different about him from the other townies. You didn't actually vote for me before I voted for you, and my vote was completely unrelated. I don't know why you would find my vote suspicious other than OMGUS, or is your vote RVS? there is also some irony to it, because you only voted for me after I voted for you.

I don't get the townreads on Xerxes. I'm not sure I've ever played with XP, so maybe he has some meta I don't know about, but for now my vote stands.

Trust me, Xerxes is not scum.

I, uhh, okay? I guess I'll trust this for now. Unvote