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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #875 on: July 02, 2014, 11:33:07 am »

Xerxes, do you have any information about a role called "The Advisor"?
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #876 on: July 02, 2014, 11:33:28 am »

What is visiting?

There were things that happened in my QT last night. The verbiage used in that QT was visiting. It was indicated that I was being visited N1 and that faust had been visited N0. Thus, it appears when XP targets you at night you get visited. The details of the visit are not to be divulged at this time. While it is highly, highly unlikely that XP is scum I cannot 100% confirm him as being Town. I cannot say why faust seems to think XP has 100% town certainty. However, because faust did qualify XP as town it is unlikely that faust is not also town.

Barring some substantial evidence to the contrary there is no way I could be moved to lynch either of them today.

Okay, but Xerxes said he Targeted but did not Visit.
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #877 on: July 02, 2014, 11:36:58 am »

BTW, I'm pretty sure that both the dice rerolling and mail-mi getting stopped are specific to the monster we fight, and aren't scum powers.
Xerxes, do you have any information about a role called "The Advisor"?

That's me. (Not the 'the' part, but yeah)
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #878 on: July 02, 2014, 11:39:55 am »

BTW, I'm pretty sure that both the dice rerolling and mail-mi getting stopped are specific to the monster we fight, and aren't scum powers.
Xerxes, do you have any information about a role called "The Advisor"?

That's me. (Not the 'the' part, but yeah)

But there were two rerolls yesterday, right?  One on Faust, and another when the Troll hit you.  So one sounds like a PR, the other like a Monster ability.
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #879 on: July 02, 2014, 11:43:50 am »

I am still in favor of a mass claim, but if everyone answers my question, that will already help a lot.
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #880 on: July 02, 2014, 11:46:36 am »

Notably, I was digging through the Monster Madness Mod QT.  There is a role that Chairs (scum) had in that game:

Once per day, he could select a player that had already Played a die.  That die, and any that are stored, are discarded and rolled again.  The target can then choose to do with the new results.

It only says the played/stored dice are rerolled, not all the dice that were rolled, which is what people are claiming here.

There was also a townish sounding version which spent a die to give another player the option to reroll his played die.

There is also something which seems similar to Mail-Mi's role.  If you didn't roll a die the previous day, then for each die rolled, an additional die will be rolled not from the supply.  Though, Mail-Mi's seems to be about playing and not rolling.

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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #881 on: July 02, 2014, 11:51:03 am »

BTW, I'm pretty sure that both the dice rerolling and mail-mi getting stopped are specific to the monster we fight, and aren't scum powers.
Xerxes, do you have any information about a role called "The Advisor"?

That's me. (Not the 'the' part, but yeah)

But there were two rerolls yesterday, right?  One on Faust, and another when the Troll hit you.  So one sounds like a PR, the other like a Monster ability.

Faust wasn't attacked?
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #882 on: July 02, 2014, 11:53:49 am »

BTW, I'm pretty sure that both the dice rerolling and mail-mi getting stopped are specific to the monster we fight, and aren't scum powers.
Xerxes, do you have any information about a role called "The Advisor"?

That's me. (Not the 'the' part, but yeah)

But there were two rerolls yesterday, right?  One on Faust, and another when the Troll hit you.  So one sounds like a PR, the other like a Monster ability.

Faust wasn't attacked?

I didn't see a message saying that he was.  He just posted that his dice were rerolled and played another one.

Faust?
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #883 on: July 02, 2014, 12:02:17 pm »

I feel like we are getting really close to a mass claim anyways with people keep giving hints about their role. At this rate we might know everyones role soon except for scum.

this is making me support fausts mass role claim idea
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #884 on: July 02, 2014, 12:07:21 pm »

also since I think it was missed i'll just post it again

vote : BA
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #885 on: July 02, 2014, 12:08:16 pm »

also since I think it was missed i'll just post it again

vote : BA

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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #886 on: July 02, 2014, 12:08:54 pm »

So like this:

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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #887 on: July 02, 2014, 12:10:17 pm »

ah thanks I didn't realize i was doing it slightly wrong

Vote: BA
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #888 on: July 02, 2014, 12:14:24 pm »

BTW, I'm pretty sure that both the dice rerolling and mail-mi getting stopped are specific to the monster we fight, and aren't scum powers.
Xerxes, do you have any information about a role called "The Advisor"?

That's me. (Not the 'the' part, but yeah)

If its possible would you be able to say what the Advisor is? since it seems a couple people know is it fair if the rest of us know also? Unless you feel there is a reason you should keep it secret.
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #889 on: July 02, 2014, 12:28:59 pm »

BTW, I'm pretty sure that both the dice rerolling and mail-mi getting stopped are specific to the monster we fight, and aren't scum powers.
Xerxes, do you have any information about a role called "The Advisor"?

That's me. (Not the 'the' part, but yeah)

If its possible would you be able to say what the Advisor is? since it seems a couple people know is it fair if the rest of us know also? Unless you feel there is a reason you should keep it secret.

Why do you want to know? Him stating exactly what his power is can give scum more info.
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #890 on: July 02, 2014, 12:34:55 pm »

BTW, I'm pretty sure that both the dice rerolling and mail-mi getting stopped are specific to the monster we fight, and aren't scum powers.
Xerxes, do you have any information about a role called "The Advisor"?

That's me. (Not the 'the' part, but yeah)

If its possible would you be able to say what the Advisor is? since it seems a couple people know is it fair if the rest of us know also? Unless you feel there is a reason you should keep it secret.

Why do you want to know? Him stating exactly what his power is can give scum more info.

i guess there isn't really a reason i need to know other then curiosity. So as much information as he can without helping scum. which is probably none. But i still figured I should ask
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #891 on: July 02, 2014, 12:56:23 pm »

Basically, I target someone, and they get visited by someone else. The visits would still happen if I died, which is why I am able to not keep this part secret.
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #892 on: July 02, 2014, 01:09:41 pm »

Vote Count 2.2

Beyond Awesome (3): XerxesPraelor, Hydrad, Witherweaver
chairs (2): mail-mi, Ichimaru Gin
Witherweaver (1): faust

not voting (12): ashersky, chairs, yuma, Beyond Awesome, liopoil, pingpongsam

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Evening begins on July 9 at 11pm forum time.
Day 1 ends on July 11 at 11pm forum time.

Target: 60
Score: 60
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #893 on: July 02, 2014, 01:20:22 pm »

Sounds like XP doesn't know the bit about the adviser. It sounds like he might not even know who the visitor is. I had assumed XP was the visitor but now I see that he is not.

I am still against mass-claiming for today. I think there is mileage to be gained from what Town currently knows that scum does not. I am noticing some significant inter relations today but I still need a reread wherein volt is sure scum and XP/faust likely town, I feel I could conceivably find an obvscum with that perspective.
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #894 on: July 02, 2014, 02:08:33 pm »

I did not target faust N0 or N1.

I am open to massclaiming--especially since so many people have pretty much claimed anyway.

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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #895 on: July 02, 2014, 02:54:12 pm »

Reread D1. Wow, so I totally get what is going on with XP and faust and now feel very good that they are both Town. Extremely unlikely either are scum.


So I have a 5-tiered scumometer:


Might as well lynch now - - ashersky

Sure does look like scum - - Beyond Awesome, Ichimaru

Nullolicious - - Withers, Hydrad

Not so null but no Townie of the year either - - liopoil, chairs

Club Town - - faust, XP, pps
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #896 on: July 02, 2014, 02:57:15 pm »

Fun thought of the day: if we blitzlynch right now scum won't have time to mess with the Orc!
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #897 on: July 02, 2014, 03:00:13 pm »

But I have an issue with the reads slightly, in that it's hard to see both BA and Ash being scum.  I can see Ash hammer his partner, but I have trouble seeing him bus both his partners two days in a row.
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #898 on: July 02, 2014, 03:01:15 pm »

I mentioned chairs being a lurker but it seems many people are also forgetting yuma as well.

I think i would put my top 4 scum reads as: asher, BA, chairs, yuma

Town is : faust, gin, and xp is getting really close

Rest is null
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Re: RMM16: Dice Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #899 on: July 02, 2014, 03:03:49 pm »

Reread D1. Wow, so I totally get what is going on with XP and faust and now feel very good that they are both Town. Extremely unlikely either are scum.


So I have a 5-tiered scumometer:


Might as well lynch now - - ashersky

Sure does look like scum - - Beyond Awesome, Ichimaru

Nullolicious - - Withers, Hydrad

Not so null but no Townie of the year either - - liopoil, chairs

Club Town - - faust, XP, pps
This reads post is kind of a joke. Seriously, Ash is certainly capable of hammering his partner, but there's a world of OMGUS in there.

Me and BA. Look, I thought Volt was scum from the moment he started tunneling me. I stuck with my reads and even put in what I wanted to happen if he was succesful in lynching me--saying you guys should certainly kill him.

I 100% think we should lynch someone off wagon today.

PPS's post #297 looks pretty hedgy on Volt.



vote: PPS

Bah. Except you helped put Voltaire at L-1 so unvote and correctly called his behavior. This reads post is still way off though.
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