Topic: Hanabi III (Game Over - 21 points!) (Read 11425 times)

Twistedarcher · « **on:** April 30, 2014, 07:45:26 pm »

Hanabi

A review

Full Rules

Hanabi is a co-operative game; one where the players do not clash, but work as a team to achieve a common goal. They play the part of inattentive / drunk pyrotechnics experts, who accidentally mixed up the powders, wicks and rockets of a large fireworks display. Since the presentation is about to start, this has caused a bit of a panic! The team needs to help each other so the spectacle doesn't turn into a catastrophe!

The objective is to play cards 1-2-3-4-5 (in order) in each of 5 suits (colors). In each suit, there are three 1s, two 2s, two 3s, two 4s, and one 5.

Each player will have a hand of 4 cards. Hands are secret, with the twist that each player can see all the cards except his own. Each player will have a QT that all other players have access to, with the cards in the hand in slots A-D. This will be updated each time a card is played or discarded. (If you play card B on your turn, then you will draw a card and it will go the card B slot.) There will be absolutely no discussion and/or communication in these QTs.

On your turn, you have three options:

1. Play a card (A-D), and then draw one. Your play is legal if the card is the next numerically in its suit - you may not skip or duplicate numbers. If the play is illegal, the card is discarded and the team receives a strike. 3 strikes = game over.

1a. If you play a 5 legally to complete a suit, you gain a bonus clue token for the team. If you have completed the fifth suit, you win!

2. Give information. You may discard a clue token (the team starts with

. You identify all cards of a suit or number that one other player has. You must identify all matching cards.

This means that if person X has this hand:

R1 R2 Y1 G1

You can give the following clues:

A/C/D are 1
A/B are Red
C is Yellow
D is Green

You cannot give this clue:

A is a 1

3. Discard a card, gain a clue token, and then draw a new card. The new card will be placed in the same slot from which the previous card was discarded.

If a player draws the last card from the deck, each player has one final turn (including the player who drew the last card).

Any form of in-game discussion other than posting your action is not allowed. And of course, do not PM the other players in the game. You in fact should never need to PM anyone.

Final Scoring:

The final score is the total number of cards legally played:

0-5 Horrible! The crowd is booing!
6-10 Poor. Barely any applause.
11-15 Honorable, but nobody will remember it.
16-20 Excellent! Charms the crowd.
21-24 Extraordinary! Engraved in the crowd's memories.
25 Legendary! The crowd is speechless with stars in their eyes

Players
1. Ghostofmars
2. Jimmmmm
3. Teproc
4. Watno

Strikes: 0/3
Clue Tokens: 8/8

Played
Red: (none)
Green: (none)
Blue: (none)
Yellow: (none)
White: (none)

Discard: (none)

Deck: 34 cards

(Intro stolen from Theory)

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #1 on:** April 30, 2014, 07:47:15 pm »

Ghostofmars, Jimmmm and Teproc have been auto-inned, as they have expressed interest in playing previously. That means there's only 1 spot left!

I will try to update the game as much as possible. This will be at minimum once per morning/evening forum time, but likely more often.

ghostofmars · « **Reply #2 on:** April 30, 2014, 07:49:00 pm »

/confirm

Teproc · « **Reply #3 on:** April 30, 2014, 07:51:01 pm »

/in confirmed.

As I said in the Hanabi thread, I'm used to play with a variant, so I have an automatic excuse for awful play, just putting it out there.

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #4 on:** April 30, 2014, 08:49:42 pm »

Confirmed.

Watno · « **Reply #5 on:** April 30, 2014, 09:15:05 pm »

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #6 on:** April 30, 2014, 09:23:42 pm »

And we're good. Setting up QTs now.

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #7 on:** April 30, 2014, 09:25:12 pm »

Has everyone played before and aware of general strategy?

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #8 on:** April 30, 2014, 09:50:14 pm »

Game is underway. If you have any questions please PM me. Ghostofmars is first. You will probably want to wait for me for new cards, but there's no need to wait if the last action was a clue.

Players
1. Ghostofmars
2. Jimmmmm
3. Teproc
4. Watno

Strikes: 0/3
Clue Tokens: 8/8

Played
Red: (none)
Green: (none)
Blue: (none)
Yellow: (none)
White: (none)

Discard: (none)

Deck: 34 cards

ghostofmars · « **Reply #9 on:** April 30, 2014, 11:37:56 pm »

Quote from: Jimmmmm on April 30, 2014, 09:25:12 pm

Has everyone played before and aware of general strategy?

I have played Hanabi several times including some perfect games. Most of my experience is 2 player, but I have played ~15 times with 3-5 players.

Jim's B is 1

Btw. In the real game, I can reorder the cards, which may give some information to other players. Should this be included here?

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #10 on:** May 01, 2014, 12:08:59 am »

Play B

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #11 on:** May 01, 2014, 12:42:13 am »

Quote from: ghostofmars on April 30, 2014, 11:37:56 pm

Quote from: Jimmmmm on April 30, 2014, 09:25:12 pm
Has everyone played before and aware of general strategy?
I have played Hanabi several times including some perfect games. Most of my experience is 2 player, but I have played ~15 times with 3-5 players.

Jim's B is 1

Btw. In the real game, I can reorder the cards, which may give some information to other players. Should this be included here?

No reordering of cards.

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #12 on:** May 01, 2014, 12:46:38 am »

Jimmmmm plays a Blue 1 from his hand. Jimmmmm draws a new card and puts it in the 'B' slot in his hand. Teproc's turn.

Players
1. Ghostofmars
2. Jimmmmm
3. Teproc
4. Watno

Strikes: 0/3
Clue Tokens: 7/8

Played
Red: (none)
Green: (none)
Blue: 1
Yellow: (none)
White: (none)

Discard: (none)

Deck: 33 cards

Actions:
Ghostofmars clue Jimmmm's B is 1
Jimmmmm plays B

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #13 on:** May 01, 2014, 02:33:50 am »

Question (this is not meant to and should not be taken to imply anything about the gamestate): is it legal to say, "None of your cards are..."? Different editions vary on this.

Teproc · « **Reply #14 on:** May 01, 2014, 04:15:43 am »

Quote from: Jimmmmm on May 01, 2014, 02:33:50 am

Question (this is not meant to and should not be taken to imply anything about the gamestate): is it legal to say, "None of your cards are..."? Different editions vary on this.

My edition doesn't allow that, but I guess it's up to TA, seems interesting.

Ghostofmars : B, C and D are 1s

Watno · « **Reply #15 on:** May 01, 2014, 09:21:27 am »

Discard A

ghostofmars · « **Reply #16 on:** May 01, 2014, 10:00:26 am »

play B

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #17 on:** May 01, 2014, 10:02:12 am »

Watno discards the blue 5! Ghostofmars plays the yellow 1.

New card sent in quick topic. Jimmmm's turn.

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #18 on:** May 01, 2014, 10:06:30 am »

Quote from: Jimmmmm on May 01, 2014, 02:33:50 am

Question (this is not meant to and should not be taken to imply anything about the gamestate): is it legal to say, "None of your cards are..."? Different editions vary on this.

My rule book says no, so we will go with that.

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #19 on:** May 01, 2014, 10:10:04 am »

ghostofmars: A and B are white

Teproc · « **Reply #20 on:** May 01, 2014, 11:45:52 am »

Discard A

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #21 on:** May 01, 2014, 12:17:24 pm »

Teproc discards B3 and draws a new card.

Watno's turn.

(This is adding up, but I can only do full updates from home -- I will do one this evening.)

Watno · « **Reply #22 on:** May 01, 2014, 01:01:41 pm »

Discard B

ghostofmars · « **Reply #23 on:** May 01, 2014, 02:07:31 pm »

Play C

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #24 on:** May 01, 2014, 06:05:22 pm »

Watno discards a Y4. Ghostofmars plays a G1.

Players
1. Ghostofmars
2. Jimmmmm
3. Teproc
4. Watno

Strikes: 0/3
Clue Tokens: 8/8

Played
Red: (none)
Green: 1
Blue: 1
Yellow: 1
White: (none)

Discard:
B3
B5
Y4

Deck: 28 cards

Actions:
Ghostofmars clue Jimmmm's B is 1
Jimmmmm plays B
Teproc clue Ghostofmars' B C D are 1s
Watno discards A
Ghostofmars plays B
Jimmmmm clue Ghostofmars A and B are white
Teproc discards A
Watno discards B
Ghostofmars plays C

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #25 on:** May 01, 2014, 08:21:14 pm »

Watno: B is a 2

Teproc · « **Reply #26 on:** May 02, 2014, 04:45:16 am »

Watno : A, B and D are yellow.

Watno · « **Reply #27 on:** May 02, 2014, 08:57:19 am »

Play B

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #28 on:** May 04, 2014, 12:25:41 pm »

Watno plays a Y2.

Players
1. Ghostofmars
2. Jimmmmm
3. Teproc
4. Watno

Strikes: 0/3
Clue Tokens: 6/8

Played
Red: (none)
Green: 1
Blue: 1
Yellow: 2
White: (none)

Discard:
B3
B5
Y4

Deck: 27 cards

Actions:
Ghostofmars clue Jimmmm's B is 1
Jimmmmm plays B
Teproc clue Ghostofmars' B C D are 1s
Watno discards A
Ghostofmars plays B
Jimmmmm clue Ghostofmars A and B are white
Teproc discards A
Watno discards B
Ghostofmars plays C
Jimmmmm clue Watno B is 2
Teproc clue Watno A, B, D are yellow
Watno plays B

ghostofmars · « **Reply #29 on:** May 04, 2014, 05:32:54 pm »

play B

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #30 on:** May 04, 2014, 05:41:02 pm »

Ghostofmars plays a W1.

Players
1. Ghostofmars
2. Jimmmmm
3. Teproc
4. Watno

Strikes: 0/3
Clue Tokens: 6/8

Played
Red: (none)
Green: 1
Blue: 1
Yellow: 2
White: 1

Discard:
B3
B5
Y4

Deck: 26 cards

Actions:
Ghostofmars clue Jimmmm's B is 1
Jimmmmm plays B
Teproc clue Ghostofmars' B C D are 1s
Watno discards A
Ghostofmars plays B
Jimmmmm clue Ghostofmars A and B are white
Teproc discards A
Watno discards B
Ghostofmars plays C
Jimmmmm clue Watno B is 2
Teproc clue Watno A, B, D are yellow
Watno plays B
Ghostofmars plays B

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #31 on:** May 04, 2014, 11:18:44 pm »

Teproc: A and C are 2s

Teproc · « **Reply #32 on:** May 05, 2014, 04:43:20 am »

Play A

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #33 on:** May 05, 2014, 09:44:21 am »

Teproc plays a W2.

Watno · « **Reply #34 on:** May 05, 2014, 11:52:38 am »

ghostofmars: B and D are red

ghostofmars · « **Reply #35 on:** May 05, 2014, 01:54:55 pm »

play D

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #36 on:** May 05, 2014, 07:12:45 pm »

Ghostofmars plays a R1.

Players
1. Ghostofmars
2. Jimmmmm
3. Teproc
4. Watno

Strikes: 0/3
Clue Tokens: 4/8

Played
Red: 1
Green: 1
Blue: 1
Yellow: 2
White: 2

Discard:
B3
B5
Y4

Deck: 24 cards

Actions:
Ghostofmars clue Jimmmm's B is 1
Jimmmmm plays B
Teproc clue Ghostofmars' B C D are 1s
Watno discards A
Ghostofmars plays B
Jimmmmm clue Ghostofmars A and B are white
Teproc discards A
Watno discards B
Ghostofmars plays C
Jimmmmm clue Watno B is 2
Teproc clue Watno A, B, D are yellow
Watno plays B
Ghostofmars plays B
Jimmmmm clue Teproc A, C are 2s
Teproc plays A
Watno clue ghostofmars B,D are red
Ghostofmars plays D

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #37 on:** May 05, 2014, 10:20:31 pm »

Watno: D is a 3

Teproc · « **Reply #38 on:** May 06, 2014, 04:58:38 am »

Play C

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #39 on:** May 06, 2014, 11:34:55 am »

Teproc plays a G2.

Watno · « **Reply #40 on:** May 06, 2014, 05:29:04 pm »

play d

ghostofmars · « **Reply #41 on:** May 06, 2014, 05:57:55 pm »

play B

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #42 on:** May 06, 2014, 08:57:22 pm »

Watno plays a Y3. Ghostofmars plays a R2.

Players
1. Ghostofmars
2. Jimmmmm
3. Teproc
4. Watno

Strikes: 0/3
Clue Tokens: 3/8

Played
Red: 2
Green: 2
Blue: 1
Yellow: 3
White: 2

Discard:
B3
B5
Y4

Deck: 21 cards

Actions:
Ghostofmars clue Jimmmm's B is 1
Jimmmmm plays B
Teproc clue Ghostofmars' B C D are 1s
Watno discards A
Ghostofmars plays B
Jimmmmm clue Ghostofmars A and B are white
Teproc discards A
Watno discards B
Ghostofmars plays C
Jimmmmm clue Watno B is 2
Teproc clue Watno A, B, D are yellow
Watno plays B
Ghostofmars plays B
Jimmmmm clue Teproc A, C are 2s
Teproc plays A
Watno clue ghostofmars B,D are red
Ghostofmars plays D
Jimmmmm clue Watno D is 3
Teproc plays C
Watno plays D
Ghostofmars plays B

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #43 on:** May 06, 2014, 09:03:59 pm »

Teproc: C is Blue

Teproc · « **Reply #44 on:** May 07, 2014, 04:34:25 am »

Play C

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #45 on:** May 07, 2014, 10:54:16 pm »

Teproc plays a B2.

Players
1. Ghostofmars
2. Jimmmmm
3. Teproc
4. Watno

Strikes: 0/3
Clue Tokens: 2/8

Played
Red: 2
Green: 2
Blue: 2
Yellow: 3
White: 2

Discard:
B3
B5
Y4

Deck: 20 cards

Actions:
Ghostofmars clue Jimmmm's B is 1
Jimmmmm plays B
Teproc clue Ghostofmars' B C D are 1s
Watno discards A
Ghostofmars plays B
Jimmmmm clue Ghostofmars A and B are white
Teproc discards A
Watno discards B
Ghostofmars plays C
Jimmmmm clue Watno B is 2
Teproc clue Watno A, B, D are yellow
Watno plays B
Ghostofmars plays B
Jimmmmm clue Teproc A, C are 2s
Teproc plays A
Watno clue ghostofmars B,D are red
Ghostofmars plays D
Jimmmmm clue Watno D is 3
Teproc plays C
Watno plays D
Ghostofmars plays B
Jimmmmm clue Teproc C is blue
Teproc plays C

Watno · « **Reply #46 on:** May 08, 2014, 09:45:51 am »

ghostofmars: A is 3

ghostofmars · « **Reply #47 on:** May 08, 2014, 10:54:51 am »

play A

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #48 on:** May 08, 2014, 08:37:24 pm »

GhostofMars plays a W3.

Players
1. Ghostofmars
2. Jimmmmm
3. Teproc
4. Watno

Strikes: 0/3
Clue Tokens: 1/8

Played
Red: 2
Green: 2
Blue: 2
Yellow: 3
White: 3

Discard:
B3
B5
Y4

Deck: 19 cards

Actions:
Ghostofmars clue Jimmmm's B is 1
Jimmmmm plays B
Teproc clue Ghostofmars' B C D are 1s
Watno discards A
Ghostofmars plays B
Jimmmmm clue Ghostofmars A and B are white
Teproc discards A
Watno discards B
Ghostofmars plays C
Jimmmmm clue Watno B is 2
Teproc clue Watno A, B, D are yellow
Watno plays B
Ghostofmars plays B
Jimmmmm clue Teproc A, C are 2s
Teproc plays A
Watno clue ghostofmars B,D are red
Ghostofmars plays D
Jimmmmm clue Watno D is 3
Teproc plays C
Watno plays D
Ghostofmars plays B
Jimmmmm clue Teproc C is blue
Teproc plays C
Watno clue Ghostofmars A is 3
Ghostofmars plays A

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #49 on:** May 08, 2014, 09:04:04 pm »

Teproc: C is a 3

Teproc · « **Reply #50 on:** May 09, 2014, 06:07:52 am »

Play C

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #51 on:** May 09, 2014, 10:18:26 am »

Teproc plays a R3.

No clues remaining!

Watno · « **Reply #52 on:** May 09, 2014, 10:40:09 am »

Discard C

ghostofmars · « **Reply #53 on:** May 09, 2014, 11:35:21 am »

Jimmm C is 3

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #54 on:** May 09, 2014, 11:43:28 am »

Play C

Teproc · « **Reply #55 on:** May 09, 2014, 11:46:22 am »

Discard A

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #56 on:** May 09, 2014, 12:21:14 pm »

Watno discards a R4. Jimmmm plays a G3. Teproc discards a R4 (ouch).

Players
1. Ghostofmars
2. Jimmmmm
3. Teproc
4. Watno

Strikes: 0/3
Clue Tokens: 1/8

Played
Red: 3
Green: 3
Blue: 2
Yellow: 3
White: 3

Discard:
B3
B5
Y4
R4
R4

Deck: 15 cards

Actions:
Ghostofmars clue Jimmmm's B is 1
Jimmmmm plays B
Teproc clue Ghostofmars' B C D are 1s
Watno discards A
Ghostofmars plays B
Jimmmmm clue Ghostofmars A and B are white
Teproc discards A
Watno discards B
Ghostofmars plays C
Jimmmmm clue Watno B is 2
Teproc clue Watno A, B, D are yellow
Watno plays B
Ghostofmars plays B
Jimmmmm clue Teproc A, C are 2s
Teproc plays A
Watno clue ghostofmars B,D are red
Ghostofmars plays D
Jimmmmm clue Watno D is 3
Teproc plays C
Watno plays D
Ghostofmars plays B
Jimmmmm clue Teproc C is blue
Teproc plays C
Watno clue Ghostofmars A is 3
Ghostofmars plays A
Jimmmmm clue Teproc C is 3
Teproc plays C
Watno discards C
Ghostofmars clue Jimmm C is 3
Jimmmmm plays C
Teproc discards A

Watno · « **Reply #57 on:** May 09, 2014, 12:27:04 pm »

ghostofmars: A is 4

ghostofmars · « **Reply #58 on:** May 09, 2014, 12:46:14 pm »

play A

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #59 on:** May 09, 2014, 12:52:26 pm »

Discard B

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #60 on:** May 09, 2014, 07:05:22 pm »

Ghostofmars plays a Y4. Jimmmmm discards a R1.

Players
1. Ghostofmars
2. Jimmmmm
3. Teproc
4. Watno

Strikes: 0/3
Clue Tokens: 1/8

Played
Red: 3
Green: 3
Blue: 2
Yellow: 4
White: 3

Discard:
B3
B5
Y4
R1
R4
R4

Deck: 13 cards

Actions:
Ghostofmars clue Jimmmm's B is 1
Jimmmmm plays B
Teproc clue Ghostofmars' B C D are 1s
Watno discards A
Ghostofmars plays B
Jimmmmm clue Ghostofmars A and B are white
Teproc discards A
Watno discards B
Ghostofmars plays C
Jimmmmm clue Watno B is 2
Teproc clue Watno A, B, D are yellow
Watno plays B
Ghostofmars plays B
Jimmmmm clue Teproc A, C are 2s
Teproc plays A
Watno clue ghostofmars B,D are red
Ghostofmars plays D
Jimmmmm clue Watno D is 3
Teproc plays C
Watno plays D
Ghostofmars plays B
Jimmmmm clue Teproc C is blue
Teproc plays C
Watno clue Ghostofmars A is 3
Ghostofmars plays A
Jimmmmm clue Teproc C is 3
Teproc plays C
Watno discards C
Ghostofmars clue Jimmm C is 3
Jimmmmm plays C
Teproc discards A
Watno clue ghostofmars A is 4
Ghostofmars plays A
Jimmmmm discards B

Teproc · « **Reply #61 on:** May 09, 2014, 07:19:50 pm »

Watno's A and D are 1s

Watno · « **Reply #62 on:** May 10, 2014, 08:42:39 am »

Discard A

ghostofmars · « **Reply #63 on:** May 10, 2014, 12:41:39 pm »

discard C

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #64 on:** May 10, 2014, 01:02:03 pm »

Watno discards a Y1. Ghostofmars discards the W5.

Players
1. Ghostofmars
2. Jimmmmm
3. Teproc
4. Watno

Strikes: 0/3
Clue Tokens: 2/8

Played
Red: 3
Green: 3
Blue: 2
Yellow: 4
White: 3

Discard:
B3
B5
Y1
Y4
R1
R4
R4
W5

Deck: 11 cards

Actions:
Ghostofmars clue Jimmmm's B is 1
Jimmmmm plays B
Teproc clue Ghostofmars' B C D are 1s
Watno discards A
Ghostofmars plays B
Jimmmmm clue Ghostofmars A and B are white
Teproc discards A
Watno discards B
Ghostofmars plays C
Jimmmmm clue Watno B is 2
Teproc clue Watno A, B, D are yellow
Watno plays B
Ghostofmars plays B
Jimmmmm clue Teproc A, C are 2s
Teproc plays A
Watno clue ghostofmars B,D are red
Ghostofmars plays D
Jimmmmm clue Watno D is 3
Teproc plays C
Watno plays D
Ghostofmars plays B
Jimmmmm clue Teproc C is blue
Teproc plays C
Watno clue Ghostofmars A is 3
Ghostofmars plays A
Jimmmmm clue Teproc C is 3
Teproc plays C
Watno discards C
Ghostofmars clue Jimmm C is 3
Jimmmmm plays C
Teproc discards A
Watno clue ghostofmars A is 4
Ghostofmars plays A
Jimmmmm discards B
Teproc clue Watno A, D are 1s
Watno discards A
Ghostofmars discards C

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #65 on:** May 10, 2014, 01:21:55 pm »

Teproc: D is a 4

Teproc · « **Reply #66 on:** May 10, 2014, 01:30:09 pm »

Play D

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #67 on:** May 10, 2014, 02:01:51 pm »

Teproc plays G4

Watno · « **Reply #68 on:** May 10, 2014, 02:19:28 pm »

Jimmmmm: C is 5

ghostofmars · « **Reply #69 on:** May 10, 2014, 03:14:53 pm »

discard D

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #70 on:** May 10, 2014, 03:38:39 pm »

Ghostofmars discards B1.

Players
1. Ghostofmars
2. Jimmmmm
3. Teproc
4. Watno

Strikes: 0/3
Clue Tokens: 1/8

Played
Red: 3
Green: 4
Blue: 2
Yellow: 4
White: 3

Discard:
B1
B3
B5
Y1
Y4
R1
R4
R4
W5

Deck: 9 cards

Actions:
Ghostofmars clue Jimmmm's B is 1
Jimmmmm plays B
Teproc clue Ghostofmars' B C D are 1s
Watno discards A
Ghostofmars plays B
Jimmmmm clue Ghostofmars A and B are white
Teproc discards A
Watno discards B
Ghostofmars plays C
Jimmmmm clue Watno B is 2
Teproc clue Watno A, B, D are yellow
Watno plays B
Ghostofmars plays B
Jimmmmm clue Teproc A, C are 2s
Teproc plays A
Watno clue ghostofmars B,D are red
Ghostofmars plays D
Jimmmmm clue Watno D is 3
Teproc plays C
Watno plays D
Ghostofmars plays B
Jimmmmm clue Teproc C is blue
Teproc plays C
Watno clue Ghostofmars A is 3
Ghostofmars plays A
Jimmmmm clue Teproc C is 3
Teproc plays C
Watno discards C
Ghostofmars clue Jimmm C is 3
Jimmmmm plays C
Teproc discards A
Watno clue ghostofmars A is 4
Ghostofmars plays A
Jimmmmm discards B
Teproc clue Watno A, D are 1s
Watno discards A
Ghostofmars discards C
Jimmmm clue Teproc D is 4
Teproc plays D
Watno clue Jimmm C is 5
Ghostofmars discards D

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #71 on:** May 10, 2014, 07:44:39 pm »

Play C

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #72 on:** May 10, 2014, 08:16:04 pm »

Jimmmmm plays the Y5, gaining a clue!

Teproc · « **Reply #73 on:** May 11, 2014, 11:56:39 am »

Watno's C is a 5

P.S. : Sorry for the delay, was out of town.

Watno · « **Reply #74 on:** May 11, 2014, 12:14:52 pm »

Play C

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #75 on:** May 11, 2014, 08:46:17 pm »

Watno plays the G5, gaining another clue. (2 clues now) Ghostofmars' turn!

ghostofmars · « **Reply #76 on:** May 11, 2014, 10:05:32 pm »

Jimmm A, B, and D are white

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #77 on:** May 11, 2014, 11:34:13 pm »

Play A

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #78 on:** May 12, 2014, 12:20:45 am »

Jimmmm plays W4

Teproc · « **Reply #79 on:** May 12, 2014, 06:25:50 am »

Watno's B, C and D are red

Watno · « **Reply #80 on:** May 12, 2014, 11:56:31 am »

Discard B

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #81 on:** May 13, 2014, 01:58:43 pm »

Watno discards R2.

Players
1. Ghostofmars
2. Jimmmmm
3. Teproc
4. Watno

Strikes: 0/3
Clue Tokens: 1/8

Played
Red: 3
Green: 5
Blue: 2
Yellow: 5
White: 4

Discard:
B1
B2
B3
B5
Y1
Y4
R1
R4
R4
W5

Deck: 5 cards

Actions:
Ghostofmars clue Jimmmm's B is 1
Jimmmmm plays B
Teproc clue Ghostofmars' B C D are 1s
Watno discards A
Ghostofmars plays B
Jimmmmm clue Ghostofmars A and B are white
Teproc discards A
Watno discards B
Ghostofmars plays C
Jimmmmm clue Watno B is 2
Teproc clue Watno A, B, D are yellow
Watno plays B
Ghostofmars plays B
Jimmmmm clue Teproc A, C are 2s
Teproc plays A
Watno clue ghostofmars B,D are red
Ghostofmars plays D
Jimmmmm clue Watno D is 3
Teproc plays C
Watno plays D
Ghostofmars plays B
Jimmmmm clue Teproc C is blue
Teproc plays C
Watno clue Ghostofmars A is 3
Ghostofmars plays A
Jimmmmm clue Teproc C is 3
Teproc plays C
Watno discards C
Ghostofmars clue Jimmm C is 3
Jimmmmm plays C
Teproc discards A
Watno clue ghostofmars A is 4
Ghostofmars plays A
Jimmmmm discards B
Teproc clue Watno A, D are 1s
Watno discards A
Ghostofmars discards C
Jimmmm clue Teproc D is 4
Teproc plays D
Watno clue Jimmm C is 5
Ghostofmars discards D
Jimmmm plays C
Teproc clue Watno C is 5
Watno plays C
Ghostofmars clue Jimmmm A,B,D are white
Jimmmm plays A
Teproc clue Watno B, C, D are red
Watno discards B

ghostofmars · « **Reply #82 on:** May 13, 2014, 02:14:25 pm »

Watno B and C are 3

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #83 on:** May 13, 2014, 09:36:58 pm »

Discard A

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #84 on:** May 13, 2014, 11:31:46 pm »

Jimmm discards a B2.

Teproc · « **Reply #85 on:** May 14, 2014, 06:04:20 am »

Jimmm's C is a 4

Watno · « **Reply #86 on:** May 14, 2014, 10:11:20 am »

Play B

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #87 on:** May 14, 2014, 03:11:47 pm »

Watno plays a B3. 3 cards and 0 clues remaining.

ghostofmars · « **Reply #88 on:** May 14, 2014, 04:38:19 pm »

discard B

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #89 on:** May 14, 2014, 04:44:06 pm »

Discards Y2. 2 cards, 1 clue remaining.

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #90 on:** May 14, 2014, 08:26:58 pm »

Play C

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #91 on:** May 14, 2014, 08:27:38 pm »

And I believe we're done. 21 points, not too bad! Good game everyone, thanks for playing, and thanks TA for modding.

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #92 on:** May 14, 2014, 08:32:32 pm »

Yep, that's the max you guys can get. Good job!

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #93 on:** May 14, 2014, 08:34:38 pm »

Everyone's differing time zones moved this game into a pretty steady flow, which wasn't bad to keep up with for modding. I definitely slowed the game down more than any player.

Do you think this would work with a numbered, spoilered list of cards, or that it would be too easy to make a mistake? I don't think we'd have to worry about anyone cheating.

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #94 on:** May 14, 2014, 08:41:10 pm »

Quote from: Twistedarcher on May 14, 2014, 08:34:38 pm

Everyone's differing time zones moved this game into a pretty steady flow, which wasn't bad to keep up with for modding. I definitely slowed the game down more than any player.

Do you think this would work with a numbered, spoilered list of cards, or that it would be too easy to make a mistake? I don't think we'd have to worry about anyone cheating.

I think it was fine the way it was. Spoilered lists seem fairly risky that someone will make a mistake, I'd be happy to try it though. One small way of speeding up the process would be to indicate what the next card is before a player's turn when they don't have any clue tokens and so will have to play or discard.

Watno · « **Reply #95 on:** May 14, 2014, 09:25:54 pm »

Good game, too bad we had some unlucky discards

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #96 on:** May 14, 2014, 09:44:07 pm »

Yeah, those red 4s were frustrating!

ghostofmars · « **Reply #97 on:** May 15, 2014, 02:40:21 am »

Honestly, I can not chime with the celebrations. I think, we performed ok, but not great. We could have scored at least 2 or 3 points more, if we played better. In particular, we lost the B5 round 1 and the two R4s in one round, although we had hints left at that point.

I remember that I decided against hinting the R4, because I expected that Teproc would discard a different card. I wonder, how you handle discards in your groups? Do you use a discard queue where always the card is discarded that is oldest and for which no hint is given?

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #98 on:** May 15, 2014, 02:48:32 am »

Yeah, I'll always discard the card I've had for the longest that I don't positively know something about, unless of course I have a reason to keep it or discard something else. For Teproc, both the card he had the longest and the card he knew the least about were junk, but he discarded one in the middle.

Some feedback for you ghostofmars, I would suggest that on the first player's first turn they don't tell someone else about a single 1, in case they have 2 or 3 1s they can't see. It just so happened that your three 1s didn't coincide with my 1, but it would have been a pain if they did.

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #99 on:** May 15, 2014, 03:15:56 am »

Also Teproc, if I remember properly, there was one time when Watno had 3 useless cards, a Y1, a R1 and a R2, and something useful, like a B4 or something. The Y1 was actually quite useful to have in his hand, since he'd narrowed it down to either Y1 or Y5, so whenever he discarded something other than that, I knew for sure that I didn't have a Y5, since if he could see a Y5 he'd know to discard the Y1. Alternatively, if he drew a 5, we could tell him about the 5, and he'd know what the Y1 was. So I think it would have been better to tell him about his reds, since we couldn't play any more reds.

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #100 on:** May 15, 2014, 03:19:23 am »

Quote from: ghostofmars on May 11, 2014, 10:05:32 pm

Jimmm A, B, and D are white

This confused me a bit. I concluded that at least one of A and D (I think) had to be a W4 since there was only 1 W2 left and I had them both narrowed down to either 2 or 4, and they may have both been W4s. Is this what you wanted me to conclude?

ghostofmars · « **Reply #101 on:** May 15, 2014, 03:23:57 am »

Quote from: Jimmmmm on May 15, 2014, 02:48:32 am

Some feedback for you ghostofmars, I would suggest that on the first player's first turn they don't tell someone else about a single 1, in case they have 2 or 3 1s they can't see. It just so happened that your three 1s didn't coincide with my 1, but it would have been a pain if they did.

Hmmm, I think that would work. At least if there is something else to tell (which was in our case).
In 2 player it often wouldn't, also you want to get cards out faster there.

ghostofmars · « **Reply #102 on:** May 15, 2014, 03:30:35 am »

Quote from: Jimmmmm on May 15, 2014, 03:19:23 am

Quote from: ghostofmars on May 11, 2014, 10:05:32 pm
Jimmm A, B, and D are white

This confused me a bit. I concluded that at least one of A and D (I think) had to be a W4 since there was only 1 W2 left and I had them both narrowed down to either 2 or 4, and they may have both been W4s. Is this what you wanted me to conclude?

Honestly, I was surprised that you played the card. You had B4, W4, W1, and W2 in your hand. So I couldn't uniquely identify the W4 card. I feared that you would play B4(newest) if I had told you the 4s so I chose the whites instead.

So I wanted to tell you don't discard this card now.

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #103 on:** May 15, 2014, 03:56:11 am »

Quote from: ghostofmars on May 15, 2014, 03:23:57 am

Quote from: Jimmmmm on May 15, 2014, 02:48:32 am
Some feedback for you ghostofmars, I would suggest that on the first player's first turn they don't tell someone else about a single 1, in case they have 2 or 3 1s they can't see. It just so happened that your three 1s didn't coincide with my 1, but it would have been a pain if they did.
Hmmm, I think that would work. At least if there is something else to tell (which was in our case).
In 2 player it often wouldn't, also you want to get cards out faster there.

I almost never play 2 player, so I'm not too sure about that, but in general I think it's a solid rule of thumb.

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #104 on:** May 15, 2014, 04:04:49 am »

Quote from: ghostofmars on May 15, 2014, 03:30:35 am

Quote from: Jimmmmm on May 15, 2014, 03:19:23 am
Quote from: ghostofmars on May 11, 2014, 10:05:32 pm
Jimmm A, B, and D are white

This confused me a bit. I concluded that at least one of A and D (I think) had to be a W4 since there was only 1 W2 left and I had them both narrowed down to either 2 or 4, and they may have both been W4s. Is this what you wanted me to conclude?
Honestly, I was surprised that you played the card. You had B4, W4, W1, and W2 in your hand. So I couldn't uniquely identify the W4 card. I feared that you would play B4(newest) if I had told you the 4s so I chose the whites instead.

So I wanted to tell you don't discard this card now.

I went back and checked to see if there was a time I would have been told about a W2 if I had it, but I had told Teproc about his W2 straight after the W1 was played. I figured getting a strike wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, and if I misplayed a W2, at least I'd know for sure the other one was a W4.

Teproc · « **Reply #105 on:** May 15, 2014, 05:10:04 am »

Yeah 21 isn't great.

As far as the red 4 goes : I think I decided to discard it because the cards I had for a long time looked important : they were not 1s, not 2s and not 4s or something to that effect. So I discarded that one because I thought it was the least likely to be important... obviously that was wrong.

I was very puzzled when you discarded the... white five I think, ghost ? You had a token and a useulf info to give to Jimmmm at that point, do you remember why you discarded ?

@Jimmmm : Hmm, I hesistated between telling him about the 1s or the red (I ended up doing both since he drew more red later), I didn't catch that there were so few yellow cards left.

ghostofmars · « **Reply #106 on:** May 15, 2014, 11:08:55 am »

Quote from: Teproc on May 15, 2014, 05:10:04 am

I was very puzzled when you discarded the... white five I think, ghost ? You had a token and a useulf info to give to Jimmmm at that point, do you remember why you discarded?

From my perspective both Jimmm and you had playable cards in your hand W4 and G4, respectively. Both of you had these cards since the beginning of the game so that it was likely that you would discard it. As I had only 1 hint to give I feared that the one I didn't tell a hint would discard a playable card. So I discarded my oldest card so that Jimmm could give you a hint and both of these cards were saved, unfortunately at the cost of the W5.

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #107 on:** May 19, 2014, 10:32:49 am »

Is anyone else interested in playing again? Twisted, I can mod if you want to play.

ghostofmars · « **Reply #108 on:** May 19, 2014, 12:48:28 pm »

I would play again

liopoil · « **Reply #109 on:** May 19, 2014, 03:54:10 pm »

I'd play if there's room

Twistedarcher · « **Reply #110 on:** May 19, 2014, 07:20:49 pm »

I don't think I'm too interested in playing

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