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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #1125 on: June 05, 2014, 12:19:53 pm »

FWIW, BA really looks like egorK's partner to me from this.
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #1126 on: June 05, 2014, 12:25:40 pm »

Will someone who isn't scum please comment?

Gravedigger does not target all people NKd. It is seen targeting the NK by trackers and watchers.

This is the exact wording in the doc Gravedigger (Shows up as targeting all nightkilled players to Trackers and Watchers on night of said players' deaths)--Graverobber
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #1127 on: June 05, 2014, 12:51:12 pm »

Gravedigger shows up as targeting, it doesn't target.
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #1128 on: June 05, 2014, 12:55:22 pm »

FWIW, BA really looks like egorK's partner to me from this.
I really doubt anyone still alive are partners with each other.

Egor, have you hinted at gravedigger before now?
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #1129 on: June 05, 2014, 01:51:00 pm »

Gravedigger shows up as targeting, it doesn't target.

I see what you are saying. So, gravedigger pretty much means that if someone is killed then it shows up as if they targeted that person. So, watchers and trackers will see the gravediggers name next to the other person who did the kill as well. Is that how it works? If so, man that sounds like a really crappy role to have. What's the point of it.
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #1130 on: June 05, 2014, 01:57:55 pm »

SP is most likely tracker as I targeted WW during night. On the other hand I suspect he is werewolf tracker

Anyway, Vote: XP until his explanation

Here is EgorK's original quote. It does sound like he may have been lying. But, he could have also meant that he showed up as targeting and thought SP was a tracker because trackers and watchers see him as targeting kills. Although, I am a bit surprised EgorK missed the whole ordeal over SP being Watcher though.

I honestly don't know what to think.
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #1131 on: June 05, 2014, 02:28:00 pm »

SP is most likely tracker as I targeted WW during night. On the other hand I suspect he is werewolf tracker

Anyway, Vote: XP until his explanation

Here is EgorK's original quote. It does sound like he may have been lying. But, he could have also meant that he showed up as targeting and thought SP was a tracker because trackers and watchers see him as targeting kills. Although, I am a bit surprised EgorK missed the whole ordeal over SP being Watcher though.

I honestly don't know what to think.
I meant before SP claimed to have targeted WW.
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #1132 on: June 05, 2014, 02:30:29 pm »

Vote: EgorK

He didn't hint at it at all, and never even commented on SP's role. I think he's lying here. This is the same as claiming Miller after a Cop has a guilty on you.
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #1133 on: June 05, 2014, 02:35:16 pm »

SP is most likely tracker as I targeted WW during night. On the other hand I suspect he is werewolf tracker

Anyway, Vote: XP until his explanation

Here is EgorK's original quote. It does sound like he may have been lying. But, he could have also meant that he showed up as targeting and thought SP was a tracker because trackers and watchers see him as targeting kills. Although, I am a bit surprised EgorK missed the whole ordeal over SP being Watcher though.

I honestly don't know what to think.

I think it's just easy to get trackers and watchers mixed up, I don't think it means anything.

I'm not sure what XP is saying is wrong with EgorK's claim?  If XP NK'd WW last night, then EgorK would show up to me as having targeted WW as well if he is actually gravedigger, so there's nothing wrong with that.  From XP's perspective if he's town he knows EgorK is lying, but no one else knows that.

BTW, 3 people died last night, so the situation where we both tried to NK is impossible.

We still don't know how many factions there are, right?  We could have started with 5 factions and had overlapping kills both nights (I think it's possible to have multiple SK's?).  Not the most likely situation, I'm just saying it's a possibility and you aren't going to be cleared if EgorK flips scum.
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #1134 on: June 05, 2014, 02:39:10 pm »

Vote: EgorK

He didn't hint at it at all, and never even commented on SP's role. I think he's lying here. This is the same as claiming Miller after a Cop has a guilty on you.

Exactly, vote: EgorK, that's L-2.
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #1135 on: June 05, 2014, 02:42:48 pm »

Mmm. Gravedigger vs. a vanilla cop. Well, it looks like no one wants to vote for Archetype. And he's been somewhat townier today as compared to earlier days. Although I'm still suspicious of him, if S_P is town, I think we've got this game mostly made.
I'll vote: EgorK he's lurked pretty much the whole game and his claim is scummy.

This is L-1 I believe.

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« Reply #1136 on: June 05, 2014, 02:44:30 pm »

Actually that was probably the hammer...

I'm guessing the remaining scum is egorK, s_p, and BA. Egotistical is the most urgent one, because his death will clear me. vote: egorK
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« Reply #1137 on: June 05, 2014, 02:45:32 pm »

Actually that was probably the hammer...

I'm guessing the remaining scum is egorK, s_p, and BA. Egotistical is the most urgent one, because his death will clear me. vote: egorK
WHAT?!

S_P said it was L-2. Don't tell me...

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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #1138 on: June 05, 2014, 02:49:58 pm »

Andrew missed XP's vote in the last votecount.
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #1139 on: June 05, 2014, 02:51:14 pm »

tbf he didn't put the vote on a new line like people should
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #1140 on: June 05, 2014, 02:51:34 pm »

I hope that wasn't hammer. I'm still not convinced EgorK is scum. Although, I think it is likely.

PPS

Well, I guess that is hammer. Let's just hope he's scum then.
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #1141 on: June 05, 2014, 02:51:47 pm »

I mean to say PPE not PPS
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #1142 on: June 05, 2014, 02:53:34 pm »

Andrew missed XP's vote in the last votecount.

Just checked this and you're right, that was the hammer.

Man, people should just never listen to me when I announce L-x...I think something like this almost happened in Adventure Time too.
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« Reply #1143 on: June 05, 2014, 02:54:07 pm »

Andrew missed XP's vote in the last votecount.

Just checked this and you're right, that was the hammer.

Man, people should just never listen to me when I announce L-x...I think something like this almost happened in Adventure Time too.

Though at least this time I was going off of Andrew's incorrect vote count
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #1144 on: June 05, 2014, 02:54:33 pm »

I just want to say I really think XP is scum.
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #1145 on: June 05, 2014, 02:56:36 pm »

tbf he didn't put the vote on a new line like people should

It was all part of his plan to get us to accidentally lynch EgorK!
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #1146 on: June 05, 2014, 03:00:04 pm »

So, if EgorK comes up as town, what are the odds of us being able to still win this? I mean, we will know XP is scum, and we might still have one scum left, right? Maybe even more?
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #1147 on: June 05, 2014, 03:07:47 pm »

Luckily, that's not going to happen.
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Re: Mafia XLIV: Donald's Greater Idea Mafia (Day 2!)
« Reply #1148 on: June 05, 2014, 03:08:05 pm »

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« Reply #1149 on: June 05, 2014, 03:08:44 pm »

So, if EgorK comes up as town, what are the odds of us being able to still win this? I mean, we will know XP is scum, and we might still have one scum left, right? Maybe even more?
We can figure that out after seeing the number of night kills, I think we still have a good chance of winning.  I doubt there are more than 2 more scum.
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