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[Archetype]

ANYONE WHO QUICKHAMMERS ME FOLLOWING THIS POST IS SCUM.

Ok. I'm thinking about claiming. Should I, EFHW? It may clear up a few things.

I should probably also say claiming this limits it's usefulness by a bit.

Vote:mail-mi btw.

[AndrewisFTTW]

I don't think no lynch is a good option. Even if there are two more scum of seperate factions and they're aiming for eachother, there's no guarentee they'll hit eachother. I'd think they'd be pushing hard for a lynch today.

Huh? If scum pushes hard for a lynch, shouldn't that be indication for town to think about not lynching?

Huh? is right.  We shouldn't no lynch b/c scum will push for a lynch?  I'm ready to Vote: Andrew.

Someone on Archetype please unvote.  We don't want a quickhammer

No. We shouldn't no-lynch because we have a good chance of lynching scum.

[AndrewisFTTW]

Then WW tries to start a wagon on mail-mi short before deadline. Knowing that the main lynch alternative is joth (hence town), I don't think mail-mi is his partner. Teproc switches on this wagon later on.

I disagree with this. There was enough support for the joth lynch that he would still be lynched even if they hopped off.

I agree with faust here and also brought up this point earlier. I think there was a chance we could've avoided joth's lynch.

[faust]

I don't think no lynch is a good option. Even if there are two more scum of seperate factions and they're aiming for eachother, there's no guarentee they'll hit eachother. I'd think they'd be pushing hard for a lynch today.

Huh? If scum pushes hard for a lynch, shouldn't that be indication for town to think about not lynching?

Huh? is right.  We shouldn't no lynch b/c scum will push for a lynch?  I'm ready to Vote: Andrew.

Someone on Archetype please unvote.  We don't want a quickhammer

I'm not scared of quickhammers. If scum wants to out themselves, they should go ahead and do it.

[Delirious Deleuze]

I'm not going to quick hammer, but I'll intent-to-hammer when the day starts winding down.

Arch: Let's hear your defense for everything

[faust]

I think DD and Faust are the most unlikely to be WW/Teproc's partners. I have a Townread on both and looking at the vote counts/faust's analysis makes me think they aren't his partner.

So I'm wanting to lynch out of Axxle, mail-mi, and Andrew. Moreso mail-mi than any of them. Why was he on the chopping block yesterday, but now completely off? That should be an obvious sign he's scum.

Why is mail-mi being at L-1 yesterday, but not considered now a sign that he's scum?

[faust]

I guess I should put the results of my reread together:

Mafia (Human Children) read, from most likely to least:
Archetype

mail-mi
Axxle

DeDe
Andrew

EFHW

SK read, from most likely to least:

Andrew
mail-mi
Archetype
Axxle
DeDe
EFHW

[AndrewisFTTW]

How does one have a "SK read"?

[faust]

I think DeDe should probably be a bit more up in the SK ranking. That ranking is kind of blurry anyway.

[faust]

How does one have a "SK read"?

From analyzing night kills, I guess. Also, people who are very much trying not to die are generally more likely to be SK. But yes, it's hard, and that's why we should find the missing mafia partner first.

[Archetype]

I'm not going to quick hammer, but I'll intent-to-hammer when the day starts winding down.

Arch: Let's hear your defense for everything

I'm not quite sure what "everything" is.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 4.2:

faust (1):  DD
Arch (3):  Andrew, Axxle, faust
Andrew (2):  mail-mi, EFHW
mail-mi (1):  archetype

Not Voting (0):

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Day 4 ends on June 6 at 7:00 p.m.

[Delirious Deleuze]

I'm not going to quick hammer, but I'll intent-to-hammer when the day starts winding down.

Arch: Let's hear your defense for everything

I'm not quite sure what "everything" is.

To the your wagon, to people's arguments on you, your voting history.

You know, the things leading to you being at L-1...

[Archetype]

Halfway through my reread I just realized that Archetype is still in this game. Not good.

vote: Archetype

Still rereading...

So, lurking. I've already responded to this. I was very busy IRL and didnt have much time to post.

Final Day 1 Vote Count:

joth (8):  chairs, mail-mi, Robz, Faust, ADK, Andrew, Teproc, WW
mail-mi (3):  joth, Axxle, Yuma
Faust (1):  DD

Not Voting (2):  EFHW, Archetype

With 14 alive, it took 8 to lynch.

Day 2 Final Vote Count:

Teproc (7):  Robz888, ADK, DD, mail-mi, Axxle, Faust, Teproc
Axxle (1):. EFHW

Not Voting (5):  chairs, Andrew, Archetype, WW

With 12 alive, it took 7 to lynch.

Vote Count 3.11:

mail-mi (4):  Archetype, Axxle, DD, Andrew
Andrew (4):  WW, EFHW, Faust, mail-mi

Not Voting (1):  chairs

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 3 ends on May 26 at 7:00 p.m.

mail-mi: Ended all 3 days on a wagon with scum.
DD: Ended 1 day on a wagon with scum.
faust: Ended all 3 days on a wagon with scum.
Andrew: Ended 1 day on a wagon with scum. (plus not voting with one)
Axxle: Ended 1 day on a wagon with scum.
Archetype: Never ended the day on a wagon with scum. (but not voting with one)

Vote: Archetype

I'm guessing this is what you want me to respond to.

Day 1: missed the deadline. I totally regret not being there because I had a townread on Jo and thought the wagon on him was ridiculous

Day 2: This would involve me claiming.

Day 3: Don't think Andrew is scum, so I didn't join. I thought mail-mi was scum, so I voted there.

I honestly am confused why Axxles find not voting with scum to be scummier than voting with scum.


Faust makes good points. I had no solid read on WW, so I was hedging back and forth. His vote is the only one I don't find scummy on my wagon.

[EFHW]

ANYONE WHO QUICKHAMMERS ME FOLLOWING THIS POST IS SCUM.

Ok. I'm thinking about claiming. Should I, EFHW? It may clear up a few things.

I should probably also say claiming this limits it's usefulness by a bit.

Vote:mail-mi btw.

yes, claim.  I think we are ready for some clearing up.

[EFHW]

I don't think no lynch is a good option. Even if there are two more scum of seperate factions and they're aiming for eachother, there's no guarentee they'll hit eachother. I'd think they'd be pushing hard for a lynch today.

Huh? If scum pushes hard for a lynch, shouldn't that be indication for town to think about not lynching?

Huh? is right.  We shouldn't no lynch b/c scum will push for a lynch?  I'm ready to Vote: Andrew.

Someone on Archetype please unvote.  We don't want a quickhammer

No. We shouldn't no-lynch because we have a good chance of lynching scum.

But that's not what you said.

[AndrewisFTTW]

I don't think no lynch is a good option. Even if there are two more scum of seperate factions and they're aiming for eachother, there's no guarentee they'll hit eachother. I'd think they'd be pushing hard for a lynch today.

Huh? If scum pushes hard for a lynch, shouldn't that be indication for town to think about not lynching?

Huh? is right.  We shouldn't no lynch b/c scum will push for a lynch?  I'm ready to Vote: Andrew.

Someone on Archetype please unvote.  We don't want a quickhammer

No. We shouldn't no-lynch because we have a good chance of lynching scum.

But that's not what you said.

I said I would think scum would be pushing hard for a lynch today. That plus we have two dead scum to reread. So we have a good chance of hitting scum today based on all that info.

I think faust is town for pursuing a no-lynch as there's no reason for scum to propose a no-lynch. I also think mail-mi is town for WW and Teproc's seemingly willingness to lynch him. So for me that leaves DD, Axxle, and Arch. I feel good about Arch but could lynch DD too.

[Archetype]

ANYONE WHO QUICKHAMMERS ME FOLLOWING THIS POST IS SCUM.

Ok. I'm thinking about claiming. Should I, EFHW? It may clear up a few things.

I should probably also say claiming this limits it's usefulness by a bit.

Vote:mail-mi btw.

yes, claim.  I think we are ready for some clearing up.

I'm a X-shot Timid Sensor. Each night, as long as someone was lynched the previous day, I can ask one of two questions to ashersky: "Were there scum on the wagon?"/"Were there scum off the wagon?". He'll reply with a yes/no answer. I will not be claiming how many shots I possess.

Pretty weak at actually finding scum. Especially in a game this large. So once the ICs were named, instead, I decided to try and use it to clear people. I'd try to end the day with my votes wherever

N1: did nothing. I didn't plan on doing anything either since I was likely to get a "yes" answer and 1 guaranteed scum out of 7 really means nothing .
N2: I used my power. That's why my vote is weird here. However, ashersky informed me that I had missed the submission deadline. Which really, really, really sucks. Like, potentially-game-losing sucks.
N3: no one got lynched. If EFHW voted for mail-mi or voted for Andrew, I'd use my power wherever there was 2 guaranteed Town (me/EFHW or chairs/EFHW). That's another reason why I didn't want to move to Andrew.

That's also why why reads list is so weird and weak. I was hoping to use my power to get some concrete evidence. It's also why I'm so frustrated that I'm about to be lynched without getting to use my power AND dropping the ball night 2.

[Archetype]

So me claiming makes it unlikely to find scum tonight and likely to be killed. But I can hopefully still WIFOM them with my power.

[Axxle]

unvote

[Axxle]

Looks like we could use you to hopefully clear someone. Why didn't you help lynch Andrew again?

[faust]

unvote

That's not the kind of claim I expect as a fake claim.

[faust]

Archetype, what does the "Timid" stand for?

[faust]

If I'm taking Arch off the table, that would leave me with mail-mi as next best target. I wonder about Axxle though. I always had the feeling that he's town. With all other players, I feel like there's some concrete evidence, but I still feel like all I have on Axxle are gut reads. Is there any specific reason why he can't be WW's and Teproc's partner?

[Axxle]

If we have efhw, the lynches, and one other person off wagon we can effectively cop the person off wagon.