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[Voltaire]

I completely agree that a shraeye counter leads to an ADK lynch (guaranteed) and then a faust lynch. The only possible alternative is that we mislynch Nik first, but definitely faust after that.

[Witherweaver]

Yeah, and I don't see why Shraeye didn't see that.

Well, at least my reads weren't that bad.  Day 1 I was pretty sure McMc was innocent, though I incorrectly voted for Ichi.  Day 2 I was right on with Faust/ADK.  Day 3 I was right about Faust but got talked into and convinced myself to go for Shraeye

Though, there was probably 0 chance of me pushing the Faust lynch through.

[A Drowned Kernel]

I don't think I played this game well at all and I'm amazed we won. shraeye, you investigated volt, right?

And yeah, my claim was basically a last-ditch suicide move to try and buy a chance for faust. I didn't expect to have to post after that.

[A Drowned Kernel]

Everyone was dead-on about me this game, I have to give props where they're due.

[Robz888]

It's well and truly over? I can post the speccy... I think Tepoc would be okay with that.

[Witherweaver]

Everyone was dead-on about me this game, I have to give props where they're due.

I think no one could stand to pull the trigger because of the star-crossed lover post. 

[Voltaire]

I don't think I played this game well at all and I'm amazed we won. shraeye, you investigated volt, right?

I was so sure you were scum, but you claimed cop and the real cop played exactly how scum would play...it's so bizarre.

It's well and truly over? I can post the speccy... I think Tepoc would be okay with that.

YES YES YES YES

[Witherweaver]

It's well and truly over? I can post the speccy... I think Tepoc would be okay with that.

Well I assume so.  Shraeye is hammered and ADK is admitting he and Faust are the scum team.

[A Drowned Kernel]

I quadruple checked before I made my post, that was the lynch, shraeye is town, scum wins. Somehow.

PPE: well I guess that means I do have to put the dramatic reading up on youtube then.

[Robz888]

Uh, okay then: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/nrXb5VNyxsYe

You'll note that the speccy was unanimously convinced that shraeye was scum, and would have made precisely the same error as Voltaire.

[Voltaire]

Uh, okay then: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/nrXb5VNyxsYe

You'll note that the speccy was unanimously convinced that shraeye was scum, and would have made precisely the same error as Voltaire.

ohthankgodifeelsomuchbetter

[Witherweaver]

From Yuma in the speccy thread:  (I can post this, right?)

Yuma:WW talking about the "what if we lynch mcmc and he flips town" is interesting. I like it, but we don't really do that... ever.

I almost feel like it is taboo in a way. As actually kinda discouraging thinking about "what ifs" until we know the ifs. And it does have some drawbacks... for example if he is mafia then Ichimaru basically just laid out a script for WW to walk and hammer mcmc w/o getting any suspicion (at least from Ichimaru). Asking the question is good I think but the discussion can be used by mafia to manipulate for their own benefit.

This was the kind of thing I was talking about with laying my cards on the table. 

[Witherweaver]

Gah, I'm to the point where everyone is saying "Yeah, as long as they lynch in ADK/Faust/Shraeye town should be fine".  And then town Shraeye---not scum Shraeye!!!---gets the Nik lynch going.

[AndrewisFTTW]

Wow. I think we all owe shraeye an apology.

[Voltaire]

Reading the speccy...

Do they have 3 lynches? Because Faust/shraeye/Adk should totally win.

YES YES YES

so this game was lost by

1. the Nik lynch
2. the cop not countering (and shareye, I am happy to hear your defense of your play, but apparently it failed to work on all the townies in this game as well as the speccy (I haven't read that far yet))

[Witherweaver]

Another great quote, from Yuma, I assume in response to my voting for Faust today by the timestamp:

Good job WW!!! Hold to your principles!

or not...

[ashersky]

I am also in the "shraeye misplayed this" camp.  Sorry.

[Ichimaru Gin]

Good game everyone! Props to ww for some really solid play (especially for a new player). And wow, scum doesn't win that often either--so gotta give some credit there. Although town kind of botched it.

I should have done a better job of being IC while Volt was gone, and not have lynched Nik. It would have been so much easier if he wasn't so scummy though. Oh well, lesson learned for my next time as town. If I had universally trusted Volt, things would have turned out different.

I have to agree with Ash here though. Even if we ended up mislynching Shraeye yesterday because we didn't believe his counter-claim, we could have killed ADK and at least had another day. So he really should have claimed.

[Teproc]

Final Vote Count

shraeye (3): A Drowned Kernel, Voltaire, Witherweaver

Not Voting (2): shraeye, faust

With 5 alive, it took 3 to lynch.

[Teproc]

Flavor will be added later. Maybe.

shraeye has been forced to leave politics. He was Jacqueline Sharp, the Corrupt Whip (Town Even-Night Cop)

The Idealists (A Drowned Kernel and faust) win !

Voltaire and Witherweaver have been endgamed.

[Teproc]

Speccy : http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/nrXb5VNyxsYe
Scum QT : http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/6EXDF2tZU8uDn
Mod QT : http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/tgD9C3pTigUsZ

[Teproc]

The Nik mislynch is really where the game went wrong for town. If faust or shraeye are lynched, shraeye's decision not to counterclaim would have worked, but Nik was a bad, bad lynch. Not saying shraeye made a good decision anyway, but he really needed to hit scum or die himself for it to work.

MVP goes to A Drowned Kernel for getting away with that cop claim. I mean yeah, part of that is that he didn't get counterclaimed and shraeye did not exactly play his best town game, but that was what scum needed to do in order to win, and he did it. He also succesfully identified shraeye as the cop in the scum QT, even thought they ended up killing Ichi (which was a good decision). faust was doing better initially, but by the end pretty much everyone thought/knew he was scum.

I will give an honorable mention (whatever that means) to Witherweaver for an excellent newbie town game. Would have been MVP if town had won.

[Teproc]

Lessons from a modding standpoint :

1) Modding is fun. Yesterday I was having a lot of fun looking a the speccy raging over shraeye (as they had been all game), reminding me a lot of the DoP speccy were everyone knew faust was scum (he was not).

2) I suck at writing flavor, and I need to prepare it more.

3) This setup is pretty sweet. I still might prefer Matrix6 for future newbie games (I avoided it here only because Star Wars was so recent), but it made for some interesting gameplay here.

[ashersky]

Nice job Tep!

[faust]

Nice work, ADK! Sorry I haven't been around, for some reason I thought this game would start a day later...

Agreed on the MVP. Driving this game home today was so, so crucial. And yes, the Nik lynch was what saved us here - would it have been any of Voltaire's three (shraeye, ADK, me), we'd probably have lost - either one of us dies or ADK's fake claim is obvious.

It was a really really tense game, I enjoyed that a lot. I already saw us losing on D2 with everyone agreeing with Voltaire - and then shraeye comes in and makes Nik a viable lynch!