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Re: NewMafia V : House of Cards (Day 2)
« Reply #750 on: April 08, 2014, 03:53:11 pm »

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Re: NewMafia V : House of Cards (Day 2)
« Reply #751 on: April 08, 2014, 03:54:16 pm »

Okay.

Without posting everything, the Voltaire/Nik dynamic is basically Voltaire is 10,000% sure Nik is town while Nik continually finds Voltaire scummy, votes for him but removes his vote once Voltaire tells him it's a bad idea.   

I found this all very suspicious, but everything else Volt has done has felt very town.  So I'm not ready to run with this.

The Faust/Nik and Shraeye/Nik dynamic are much less present. 

Here are Nik's posts that involve either.  This line of reasoning is probably only helpful if Nik flips scum, but regardless having it handy may be useful.  These are only from day 2:

Well then, it's obvious who to vote for now.
Vote:Shraeye


It is entirely possible that faust/shraeye could be the scum team, which is why I want to hear more from ADK.
Alright, I'm going to Unvote. I'm still not sure about you, Volitare, but for now, you're less scummy.
Now, it's really between Faust, ADK, and Shraeye.
I'm also not really sure about you three. Faust is lurking, ADK, after reading the quote you see up there, seems scummy, and Shraeye is null. Could at least one of you post? (Yes, I know Shraeye just posted, all he said was that he won't be able to post.)

Here are my opinions on people so far:
Nik-Town, obviously
WW-Town
Ichi-Since no one has counter claimed, Town.
ADK-I don't really understand why everybody is saying he's scum. Is there something I missed? So far, I've got a townie read.
Shraeye-Null
Faust-Null
Volitare-Personally, I still find him scum.
So actaully, I'm going back to my original vote. Vote:Volitare.
Vote: Faust. He's lurking.

Yeah, Shraeye is not defending himself and just rambling. Vote: Shraeye
Faust seems more towny, but I'm keeping a close eye on him.

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Re: NewMafia V : House of Cards (Day 2)
« Reply #752 on: April 08, 2014, 03:55:15 pm »


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For real this time.

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Re: NewMafia V : House of Cards (Day 2)
« Reply #753 on: April 08, 2014, 03:57:50 pm »

Final Vote Count

Nik (4): shraeye, faust, Ichimaru Gin, A Drowned Kernel

faust (1): Witherweaver

Not Voting (2): Voltaire, Nik

With 7 alive, it took 4 to lynch.
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Re: NewMafia V : House of Cards (Day 2)
« Reply #754 on: April 08, 2014, 04:01:48 pm »

After Claire and Zoe's demise, Frank's inner circle understood they had been looking at this the wrong way. Who, among Frank's friends, had never truly been a shark ? How among them was just a tool that Frank had picked up and was planning to discard. The answer was clear : it had to be Peter. He might be a drunken mess, but sobering up had helped him remember the reason he went into politics in the first place : help his local industry to work again, create jobs in his district, all that wide-eyed optimist crap.

It was only after outing Peter's relationship with his assistant Christina, as well as his numerous encounters with D.C. prositutes and lapses in sobriety, that they realized their mistake : Christina revealed that Peter was being groomed by Frank to take over his position as whip and that one of the compromises that he had to make for that was letting the shipyard he had been elected to defend be outsourced. Clearly, he was one of the sharks, and they would have to look elsewhere the next day.


Nik has been lynched. He was Peter Russo, the Corrupt Politician (Town Vanilla).
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Re: NewMafia V : House of Cards (Day 2)
« Reply #755 on: April 08, 2014, 04:02:24 pm »

Night 2 has begun. It will end tomorrow at 4pm. Any night actions submitted after that won't be taken into account.
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Re: NewMafia V : House of Cards (Night 2)
« Reply #756 on: April 09, 2014, 04:41:41 pm »

Flavor will be added later.

Ichimaru Gin has been forced to leave politics. He was Linda Vasquez, the Corrupt Fixer (Town Odd-Night Doctor)
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Re: NewMafia V : House of Cards (Night 2)
« Reply #757 on: April 09, 2014, 04:42:41 pm »

Day 3 begins ! Sorry for being late guys stuff came up IRL.
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Re: NewMafia V : House of Cards (Night 2)
« Reply #758 on: April 09, 2014, 04:43:16 pm »

I investigated shraeye last night and it's him. Vote: shraeye
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Re: NewMafia V : House of Cards (Night 2)
« Reply #759 on: April 09, 2014, 04:44:34 pm »

I counterclaim!

Nice try.

I'm cop.  faust understands why I lied yesterday.
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Re: NewMafia V : House of Cards (Night 2)
« Reply #760 on: April 09, 2014, 04:44:56 pm »

I was wondering why you left me alive.
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Re: NewMafia V : House of Cards (Night 2)
« Reply #761 on: April 09, 2014, 04:45:38 pm »

Why'd you choose Shraeye?
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Re: NewMafia V : House of Cards (Night 2)
« Reply #762 on: April 09, 2014, 04:45:47 pm »

Vote Count 3.1

shraeye (1) : A Drowned Kernel

Not Voting (4): Witherweaver, shraeye, faust, Voltaire

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Day 3 ends at 4:00 p.m. on April 16, 2014.
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Re: NewMafia V : House of Cards (Night 2)
« Reply #763 on: April 09, 2014, 04:45:56 pm »

I counterclaim!

Nice try.

I'm cop.  faust understands why I lied yesterday.

Wow I saw that coming.  Who did you investigate?
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Re: NewMafia V : House of Cards (Night 2)
« Reply #764 on: April 09, 2014, 04:46:25 pm »

you literally haven't even had time to think about the night actions.

You posted that like you've been ruminating on "why you were alive" for a while.

Which you have.  Because you knew that you'd eventually be counterclaimed.
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Re: NewMafia V : House of Cards (Night 2)
« Reply #765 on: April 09, 2014, 04:46:49 pm »

That whole thing at the end of the day with Nik left me very suspicious of him. I'm guessing faust is his partner since he's appealing to Volt in his post.
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Re: NewMafia V : House of Cards (Night 2)
« Reply #766 on: April 09, 2014, 04:47:18 pm »

It's the first thing you wonder when you're a cop and you're alive after claiming. I though scum might try something like this though.
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Re: NewMafia V : House of Cards (Night 2)
« Reply #767 on: April 09, 2014, 04:48:00 pm »

Here's the death-note that I wrote yesterday. I was very worried of getting lynched yesterday when i didn't counterclaim.  Because when I let ADK get "conf-town" instead of countering, that lynch could have easily fallen on me.  Voltaire, a very loud speaker, had said that I was the backup lynch:

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damn.  I am the real cop, as you will soon find out.  I very carefully worded my 'reaction' to ADK's claim (which I absolutely read before doing my reread).
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whoa.  just saw that ADK claimed cop.  Well that should solve things.  Without a counterclaim, it's got to be Nik/faust then.  Perfect.
This sentence is 100% true, and I specifically did not include the words "i am not cop" [gee thanks, wither ;)].  If I'm not lynched (and wither is scum), ADK claiming will solve things for me.

I am confident Wither is town.  ADK is obvscum.

So it comes down to (faust, Nik, voltaire).

I had wanted to lynch one, and investigate one of the remaining 2 tonight.


Nik is 100% my biggest suspect in that group.  faust is second, I waffle on him a lot more.  Volt I'm alllllmost sure is town.  But I really really wanted taht investigation to be sure.


Anyway.  Look hard hard hard at Nik tomorrow.  He should be the default suspect, and he has to do a lot of work to pull suspicion off of him.  His interactions with ADK do not look good.


[and one addendum: it took a LOOOOT of thought for me to decide not to counterclaim.  If I counterclaim, we will catch ADK, but I am very worried that his partner is not catchable.  There is a high likelihood that I'll be lynched for lying about my role, and that's justifiable.  Under normal circumstances, town should not lie.  I've probably even said that somewhere.  Still, after much debate, I decided this was the best course of action for this one game.]

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fallout from scum not being counterclaimed
Unfortunately, wither was the first person who was confused that there was no counterclaim.  Arg, that makes me mad.  Why does this game keep getting more complicated.

ruminations on ADK's partner
I guess when I think about it, ADK is not worried about trading 1-1 with the cop.  He's worried about the real cop finding his partner.  If Volt is serious about the ADK/faust/shraeye triple (and wither is ADK's partner), then ADK would win by getting lynched (he's scum, which will confirm to Volt that faust/shraeye are final scum).  So if ADK/wither is the scumteam, they are very worried that cop will out wither on day3?
Hmmmm, does that narrative actually make sense?

What if it's ADK/Nik...I guess same deal.  There hasn't been a ton of suspicion around Nik (well there has been, actually, but nobody's acted on it).

I think that ADK would have played differently if it were ADK/faust.  Because two scum are in the triple that Volt called out, I think that faust/ADK both push harder to get me mislynched, hoping that they can win a competing cop claim scenario on day3 (they only need 3 mislynches to win...mcmc/shraeye/cop...the only problem is they don't know I'm cop)
So I actually don't think that faust is ADK's partner.  I mean maybe, if ADK is playing scum well, I think he doesn't claim cop when faust is his partner. But it's possible that ADK isn't playing scum well.

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Re: NewMafia V : House of Cards (Night 2)
« Reply #768 on: April 09, 2014, 04:48:31 pm »

also....NOBODY SHOULD VOTE UNTIL THIS GETS SORTED OUT.  ADK's partner can hammer me if town votes for me.
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Re: NewMafia V : House of Cards (Night 2)
« Reply #769 on: April 09, 2014, 04:50:11 pm »

Here's the death-note that I wrote yesterday. I was very worried of getting lynched yesterday when i didn't counterclaim.  Because when I let ADK get "conf-town" instead of countering, that lynch could have easily fallen on me.  Voltaire, a very loud speaker, had said that I was the backup lynch:

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damn.  I am the real cop, as you will soon find out.  I very carefully worded my 'reaction' to ADK's claim (which I absolutely read before doing my reread).
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whoa.  just saw that ADK claimed cop.  Well that should solve things.  Without a counterclaim, it's got to be Nik/faust then.  Perfect.
This sentence is 100% true, and I specifically did not include the words "i am not cop" [gee thanks, wither ;)].  If I'm not lynched (and wither is TOWN), ADK claiming will solve things for me.

I am confident Wither is town.  ADK is obvscum.
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Re: NewMafia V : House of Cards (Night 2)
« Reply #770 on: April 09, 2014, 04:51:34 pm »

So.. your investigation?
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Re: NewMafia V : House of Cards (Night 2)
« Reply #771 on: April 09, 2014, 04:52:27 pm »

everything above the line was written after my full reread, before any posting.


Then I put my thoughts on the fallout after the line.
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Re: NewMafia V : House of Cards (Night 2)
« Reply #772 on: April 09, 2014, 04:53:32 pm »

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Re: NewMafia V : House of Cards (Night 2)
« Reply #773 on: April 09, 2014, 04:56:12 pm »

So.. your investigation?

you worried?

About you investigating me?  Not at all.  Well yes I am because that tells me nothing.

About you being scum, of course I am.

Why wouldn't you say immediately?
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Re: NewMafia V : House of Cards (Night 2)
« Reply #774 on: April 09, 2014, 04:56:49 pm »

I guess the question is whether shraeye claims to have investigated his partner or someone he knows is town. If he's trying to get townies on his side I think it's a townie.
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