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[AdamH]

EDIT: Live streaming for my GokoDom III matches is a go! See this post for the "code of conduct" I'll be holding myself to -- if anyone else wants to stream tournament matches I think this is a good thing to try and do, at least as a starting point.

The purpose of this thread is to talk about what's cool and not cool for live streaming Dominion tournament matches, but ALSO to give streamers and viewers an opportunity to coordinate. If anyone plans on streaming their tournament matches for GokoDom III, post when you'll be streaming and how people can find you (and feel free to post a reminder here just before you're about to go live in case that helps out!) If you want to try and watch some live streams on tournament matches, feel free to tag this thread or whatever helps you if you don't want to subscribe on Twitch.

...and now to your regularly scheduled OP:



So I'm thinking I might want to live stream my tournament matches. I wanted to make sure that potential issues from doing this are OK with everybody. I'm happy just making videos and posting them later if it's going to be a problem.

1. People could potentially see my hand and/or hear my strategy if they were watching my stream while playing the match.

Well to be honest I'm not concerned too much about that. There roughly a 30 second delay and since this tournament will consist mostly of forum people I don't think people would really do that; plus, I think it's not really an advantage in most cases so I'm willing to take whatever disadvantage that would offer.

2. People in the chat could potentially be giving me advice during the match.

Yeah this one might be a big deal. I mean, I can just ignore the chat while I'm playing (of course that defeats most of the purpose of live streaming but I'd still probably do that). I could ask people not to give strategic commentary on games currently in progress. But neither of these things are really enforceable; even though there will be video evidence of it if I decide to "cheat" it's still technically possible for me to be super-shady and make it not noticeable.

I always ask permission from my opponents before making even a video of any of my tournament matches, just in case, and I plan to do the same here, so if that's a solution everybody is OK with then I can do that as well, but I'd understand if we just wanted to do a blanket ban on live streaming for this tournament. That's why I'm asking. Any thoughts are welcome and I'll respect whatever Kirian decides.
On the other hand, I'd really like to find a niche for live streaming Dominion and from the start I always thought tournament matches would be one of the best things for it. There's the same allure of watching your favorite sports team live because anything can happen.

[yed]

2. People in the chat could potentially be giving me advice during the match.
.....
I can just ignore the chat while I'm playing (of course that defeats most of the purpose of live streaming but I'd still probably do that).

I think you should ignore chat while playing. I think the purpose of live-streaming of tournament match is different than your normal stream, it is more like watching football match and university lecture. And people in chat can answer each other if someone don't understand something and also talk freely about your strategy (and possible better strategies).

[SCSN]

2. People in the chat could potentially be giving me advice during the match.
.....
I can just ignore the chat while I'm playing (of course that defeats most of the purpose of live streaming but I'd still probably do that).

I think you should ignore chat while playing. I think the purpose of live-streaming of tournament match is different than your normal stream, it is more like watching football match and university lecture. And people in chat can answer each other if someone don't understand something and also talk freely about your strategy (and possible better strategies).

Yeah, this. Or enforce a 2-3 minute delay.

[jaybeez]

Is there a way to allow your opponent to see the chat from the live stream?  That would solve the fairness problem.

[Kirian]

I think if you can force a 2-minute delay, that's probably sufficient.

[AdamH]

I'm not aware of any way to force a delay; perhaps there is something in OBS (Open Broadcasting Software) that I'm not aware of -- I'm definitely not very familiar with the software.

If this is not possible, am I OK if I ignore the chat during games? I'd probably do that even if I could force a delay.

[KingZog3]

I'm not aware of any way to force a delay; perhaps there is something in OBS (Open Broadcasting Software) that I'm not aware of -- I'm definitely not very familiar with the software.

If this is not possible, am I OK if I ignore the chat during games? I'd probably do that even if I could force a delay.

Personally I see no problem with any of this. Even if you do discuss strategy with other people, I could easily be playing with a friend sitting next to me. Also, I trust people from the forum not to cheat (in some way using the live streaming). Why would even want to cheat? It defeats the entire purpose of why people enjoy Dominion.

[amalloy]

I'm not aware of any way to force a delay; perhaps there is something in OBS (Open Broadcasting Software) that I'm not aware of -- I'm definitely not very familiar with the software.

If this is not possible, am I OK if I ignore the chat during games? I'd probably do that even if I could force a delay.

http://help.twitch.tv/customer/portal/articles/1126395-how-stream-delay-works

[AdamH]

So that says it's enabled for professional players by request. That sounds like something I have to pay for A brief search and I can't immediately find how to enable this. Of course I can dig a little harder when I get home tonight.

[Kirian]

I'm not aware of any way to force a delay; perhaps there is something in OBS (Open Broadcasting Software) that I'm not aware of -- I'm definitely not very familiar with the software.

If this is not possible, am I OK if I ignore the chat during games? I'd probably do that even if I could force a delay.

Personally I see no problem with any of this. Even if you do discuss strategy with other people, I could easily be playing with a friend sitting next to me. Also, I trust people from the forum not to cheat (in some way using the live streaming). Why would even want to cheat? It defeats the entire purpose of why people enjoy Dominion.

This is true enough.  I mean... let's face it, the absolute worst result here is that Adam's opponent gets a slight advantage.  I don't see how that harms the tournament except for Adam, and, well, he's not exactly being coerced into doing this!

[amalloy]

So that says it's enabled for professional players by request. That sounds like something I have to pay for A brief search and I can't immediately find how to enable this. Of course I can dig a little harder when I get home tonight.

http://skyride.org/2013/09/obs-streaming-tutorial/ - it's quite long, but search for "delay" and it shows how to do it with OBS.

[AdamH]

http://skyride.org/2013/09/obs-streaming-tutorial/ - it's quite long, but search for "delay" and it shows how to do it with OBS.

Brilliant. This is exactly what I needed, I'd like to think I could have eventually found that on my own. 

So when I stream tournament matches I'll use a two minute delay and I won't look at the chat while I'm playing (only in between games). I'll also be asking permission from each of my opponents (like I always do for making videos) and I'll probably refer them to this post for details.

Videos from my matches should eventually make it to my YouTube channel as well. I hope other people will consider doing this too.

Maybe we could use this thread as a place to post when our matches are scheduled so it's easier for people to watch? I'll probably post here when my matches are scheduled and right before I'm about to go live.

[jsh357]

I will try and stream mine.  I don't know what's going to happen IRL, though.

[soulnet]

I think you should just ignore the chat. The delay won't help, as someone saying "look, he is depleting the Curse pile with his Goons Buys, he seems to be unaware that the opponent's Vineyards just went up" can easily be useful 2 minutes later. And some turns can easily be longer than 2 minutes (SP especially, but also some complicated engines).

I would personally trust you to ignore the chat. I know is awful not being able to comment live, but I would not like you commenting live in the chat, because that would distract you from the game making it unnecessary longer.

[dethwing]

I'll be streaming my match against Dunduks tomorrow at 3 EST. twitch.tv/dethwing
This should be interesting, because dominion isn't my usual stream material.

[Kirian]

Good luck to both of you streaming!  I mean, in terms of making sure the stream is working.  Luck wishes for the matches are given equally to all competitors.

[jsh357]

My match is going to be 12 AM EST Saturday night (aka Sunday Morning).  Sorry about the ridonculous time.  Singapore <-> Eastern US is difficult, heh.
http://www.twitch.tv/jsh357

Edit: Stream concluded

[dethwing]

I will be streaming my round 2 match on Friday, 9 PM EST. http://www.twitch.tv/dethwing
Hopefully I don't get whitewashed this time!

[jsh357]

Goko willing, I'll be streaming Round 2 against JOG today in approximately one hour (3 PM EST).

http://www.twitch.tv/jsh357

Edit: Stream concluded

[AdamH]

If Goko will allow it, my round 2 match with Psyduck will be tomorrow (Tuesday) at 2PM Eastern and I'll be streaming it.

[AdamH]

Going live with my match vs. Psyduck:

http://www.twitch.tv/adamhorton

[jsh357]

My match against MJD will be tonight at 10 PM EST (4.5 hours from this post)
http://twitch.tv/jsh357

Edit: Stream concluded

[AdamH]

My round 3 match with AI will be tomorrow (Tuesday) at 9PM Eastern (this will be my normal Tuesday night stream)

http://www.twitch.tv/adamhorton

[yed]

My match against Tables will be on Tuesday at 4 PM EST and I will be streaming.

Where can I found your channel?

[AdamH]

going live in a bit with my match.

http://www.twitch.tv/adamhorton

[Titandrake]

Have a match with Robz at 2:30 PM PST today. I will likely be streaming it, but make no guarantee about whether I can do audio commentary.

http://www.twitch.tv/titandrake

[yed]

Have a match with Robz at 2:30 PM PST today. I will likely be streaming it, but make no guarantee about whether I can do audio commentary.

http://www.twitch.tv/titandrake

Where are you? Currently no cities are observing PST

[AdamH]

My match will be at 2PM Eastern on Saturday

[RTT]

I´d like to try this streaming thing for my next match too.
the match is probably today in about 8-10 hours.
i´ll post here again when going live
http://www.twitch.tv/rtt_29

[RTT]

http://www.twitch.tv/rtt_29

going live in a few minutes

[amalloy]

I'm going to jump on the streaming bandwagon for my match with jaybeez, starting at 7:30PM pacific time tomorrow - that's 32 1/2 hours from now. http://www.twitch.tv/amalloy

[jsh357]

I'll will be streaming my matches vs Psyduck today at 5:30 PM EST. (1 hour, 45 minutes from now)

Edit: Stream concluded

[amalloy]

I'm going to jump on the streaming bandwagon for my match with jaybeez, starting at 7:30PM pacific time tomorrow - that's 32 1/2 hours from now. http://www.twitch.tv/amalloy

Match starts in 20 minutes, unless jaybeez wants to start early. I'm live now, just waiting for things to get started.

Edit: It turns out live-streaming when there's nothing going on at all is weird, and also makes viewers think the match is supposed to have started. So I'm not starting until jaybeez arrives.

Edit 2: live for real now.

[AdamH]

Going live for round 4!

http://www.twitch.tv/adamhorton

[A Drowned Kernel]

I'll be streaming Round 5 against azadin on Wedensday, 8:00 pm, US central time.


http://www.twitch.tv/a_drowned_kernel/

[dethwing]

I will be streaming my 5th round match vs jadaki at 2 eastern today. [In a little more than an hour]

www.twitch.tv/dethwing

[dethwing]

Well shoot. I didn't realize they were still on daylight savings time. It would be for another hour.

[dethwing]

Well, due to goko problems our match has been postponed. We're going for thursday at 3 now.

[WanderingWinder]

Well shoot. I didn't realize they were still on daylight savings time. It would be for another hour.

Actually, we just went ON daylight savings time - they AREN'T on it yet.

Yeah, it doesn't make any sense, I agree.

Why do I bring this up? Because I think DST is confusing for little to no point, and should be done away with. It's one of my pet peeves.

[Jdaki]

I will be streaming my 5th round match vs jadaki at 2 eastern today. [In a little more than an hour]

www.twitch.tv/dethwing

Not that I actually have a problem with this, but yeah would have been nice for you to let me know!

[jsh357]

If Goko decides to stop being special, I'll be streaming vs yed tomorrow at 5 PM EST (UTC-4 right now).

edit: stream over

[AdamH]

My match with Jimmmmmm will be on Friday at 9AM Eastern

[dethwing]

My match with jdaki will be in about 5 minutes. I"m live now.

[Titandrake]

I'll be streaming my match with GeoLib. It starts at 2:30 PDT (around 40 minutes), going to run some filler before then.

http://www.twitch.tv/titandrake

[AdamH]

Going live for my match with Jimmmmm

http://www.twitch.tv/adamhorton

[KingZog3]

Going live for my match with Jimmmmm

http://www.twitch.tv/adamhorton

Why are people's streams always when I'm not at home... Its not fair!

[amalloy]

I'll be streaming my match vs hsiale at http://www.twitch.tv/amalloy in just under 48 hours, at 11:00 Pacific time on Sunday. Hopefully this time is convenient enough that most people who're interested in watching can do so.

[amalloy]

I'll be streaming my match vs hsiale at http://www.twitch.tv/amalloy in just under 48 hours, at 11:00 Pacific time on Sunday. Hopefully this time is convenient enough that most people who're interested in watching can do so.

Turns out I got the timezone conversion wrong: the match is in 2 1/2 hours, at 2:00 Pacific time. Apparently Europe ALSO changed daylight savings since we synched, so I was off by even more than I can blame myself for.

[KingZog3]

I'll be streaming my match vs hsiale at http://www.twitch.tv/amalloy in just under 48 hours, at 11:00 Pacific time on Sunday. Hopefully this time is convenient enough that most people who're interested in watching can do so.

Turns out I got the timezone conversion wrong: the match is in 2 1/2 hours, at 2:00 Pacific time. Apparently Europe ALSO changed daylight savings since we synched, so I was off by even more than I can blame myself for.

That's...5pm eastern time?

[amalloy]

I'll be streaming my match vs hsiale at http://www.twitch.tv/amalloy in just under 48 hours, at 11:00 Pacific time on Sunday. Hopefully this time is convenient enough that most people who're interested in watching can do so.

Turns out I got the timezone conversion wrong: the match is in 2 1/2 hours, at 2:00 Pacific time. Apparently Europe ALSO changed daylight savings since we synched, so I was off by even more than I can blame myself for.

That's...5pm eastern time?

Yes. Courtesy of SirDagen: http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/fullscreen.html?mode=a&iso=20140330T23&year=2014&month=3&day=30&hour=23&min=0&sec=0&p0=311&fg1=ff605a&fg2=80c2da&msg=gokodom%20round%205

[amalloy]

I'll be streaming my match vs hsiale at http://www.twitch.tv/amalloy in just under 48 hours, at 11:00 Pacific time on Sunday. Hopefully this time is convenient enough that most people who're interested in watching can do so.

Turns out I got the timezone conversion wrong: the match is in 2 1/2 hours, at 2:00 Pacific time. Apparently Europe ALSO changed daylight savings since we synched, so I was off by even more than I can blame myself for.

That's...5pm eastern time?

Yes. Courtesy of SirDagen: http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/fullscreen.html?mode=a&iso=20140330T23&year=2014&month=3&day=30&hour=23&min=0&sec=0&p0=311&fg1=ff605a&fg2=80c2da&msg=gokodom%20round%205

Match starting for reals now. My opponent is here, so I can't possibly be wrong this time.

[A Drowned Kernel]

Going to be streaming my match against liopoil at 7 pm. forum time (US eastern, GMT-4) tonight.

http://www.twitch.tv/a_drowned_kernel

[AdamH]

I'll be streaming my match against Max7272sp tonight (Tuesday) at 9PM Eastern (GMT-4). After that's over, if I'm still up for it, I'll continue with my normal Tuesday evening stream.

[amalloy]

Going to be streaming my match against liopoil at 7 pm. forum time tonight.

http://www.twitch.tv/a_drowned_kernel

When is forum time? I have the forum displaying local time.

[AdamH]

Going to be streaming my match against liopoil at 7 pm. forum time tonight.

http://www.twitch.tv/a_drowned_kernel

When is forum time? I have the forum displaying local time.

Eastern time (GMT-4 right now)

[dethwing]

Tomorrow at 1 eastern I will have my match against Lekkit. www.twitch.tv/dethwing

[AdamH]

Going live (a little late) for my match with Max7272sp

http://www.twitch.tv/adamhorton

[AdamH]

Tomorrow at 1 eastern I will have my match against Lekkit. www.twitch.tv/dethwing

This match just started, in case you want to watch.

[Titandrake]

Will livestream my match with wicket at 2:30 PM Pacific time. I'm going to try adding the chat to the stream so that there's a record of chat, but it might be hard to fit it into the layout.

[amalloy]

I'll be playing my match against DG on Saturday, at 18:00 GMT. That's 11:00 PDT (my time), 14:00 EDT (forum time), and 19:00 BST (his time). If none of those time zones are appealing to you, then just use this countdown and when it gets to 0, go watch the match!

Twitch channel: http://twitch.tv/amalloy

[amalloy]

I'll be playing my match against DG on Saturday, at 18:00 GMT. That's 11:00 PDT (my time), 14:00 EDT (forum time), and 19:00 BST (his time). If none of those time zones are appealing to you, then just use this countdown and when it gets to 0, go watch the match!

Twitch channel: http://twitch.tv/amalloy

Starting now!

[AdamH]

My final round match with hdu88 will be at 4:30PM Eastern Tuesday April 8 (tomorrow). This is an exciting match for both of us, since the winner of this match is all but guaranteed a spot in the finals.

[AdamH]

My final round match with hdu88 will be at 4:30PM Eastern Tuesday April 8 (tomorrow). This is an exciting match for both of us, since the winner of this match is all but guaranteed a spot in the finals.

Going live now:

http://www.twitch.tv/adamhorton

[Titandrake]

Going to stream my match against Psyduck at 10:30 am PST on Wednesday. Winner has a good chance of top 16, I haven't done the math on tiebreakers to see if it's guaranteed. I may not have a mic this time, but I'll try to get chat in video stream working properly.

http://www.twitch.tv/titandrake

[Titandrake]

Going live. Have no mic.

[Mic Qsenoch]

Going live. Have no mic.

I'm right here!

[A Drowned Kernel]

Going live now this is short notice so as an incentive if enough people show up I may do a dramatic reading

[-Stef-]

I'm playing this round against Monsieur X, Wednesday 20:00 CEST (= 18:00 GMT)

I've never streamed anything before but I'd like to try and this match seems like a perfect candidate.

[markusin]

I'm playing this round against Monsieur X, Wednesday 20:00 CEST (= 18:00 GMT)

I've never streamed anything before but I'd like to try and this match seems like a perfect candidate.

Where can we catch the stream if you decide to do so?

[Mic Qsenoch]

I'm playing this round against Monsieur X, Wednesday 20:00 CEST (= 18:00 GMT)

I've never streamed anything before but I'd like to try and this match seems like a perfect candidate.

Where can we catch the stream if you decide to do so?

Stef will be beaming it directly into our hearts and minds.

[markusin]

I'm playing this round against Monsieur X, Wednesday 20:00 CEST (= 18:00 GMT)

I've never streamed anything before but I'd like to try and this match seems like a perfect candidate.

Where can we catch the stream if you decide to do so?

Stef will be beaming it directly into our hearts and minds.

Alive streaming. Sounds neat!

[dethwing]

My final match will be streamed in about an hour. twitch.tv/dethwing

Hopefully I can escape with a winning record.

[amalloy]

I'll be streaming my match against Beyond Awesome in 22 hours, at UTC/GMT Monday 1AM. That's 9PM Sunday, forum time, and 6PM Sunday on the west coast, where my opponent and I will both be playing from.

The winner here has a chance at the playoffs, if the other matches go well, but it's far from a guarantee.

Twitch channel

[AdamH]

I'll be streaming my match against Beyond Awesome in 22 hours, at UTC/GMT Monday 1AM. That's 9PM Sunday, forum time, and 6PM Sunday on the west coast, where my opponent and I will both be playing from.

The winner here has a chance at the playoffs, if the other matches go well, but it's far from a guarantee.

Twitch channel

WOO! I should actually be able to watch your match (finally)! To everyone: I really think amalloy should get more viewers than he does, his commentary is really well done. There, I said it. I really encourage lots of people to watch his stream.

[RTT]

if all works i´ll be hopefully able to play my match in 10 minutes and stream it here http://www.twitch.tv/rtt_29

[amalloy]

I'll be streaming my match against Beyond Awesome in 22 hours, at UTC/GMT Monday 1AM. That's 9PM Sunday, forum time, and 6PM Sunday on the west coast, where my opponent and I will both be playing from.

The winner here has a chance at the playoffs, if the other matches go well, but it's far from a guarantee.

Twitch channel

WOO! I should actually be able to watch your match (finally)! To everyone: I really think amalloy should get more viewers than he does, his commentary is really well done. There, I said it. I really encourage lots of people to watch his stream.

Aww, thanks Adam. See you there!

[-Stef-]

I'm playing this round against Monsieur X, Wednesday 20:00 CEST (= 18:00 GMT)

I've never streamed anything before but I'd like to try and this match seems like a perfect candidate.

Monsieur X just requested me to change the day... we'll play Friday instead.
Same time. Sorry to those that planned on watching tomorrow

[AdamH]

I'm playing this round against Monsieur X, Wednesday 20:00 CEST (= 18:00 GMT)

I've never streamed anything before but I'd like to try and this match seems like a perfect candidate.

Monsieur X just requested me to change the day... we'll play Friday instead.
Same time. Sorry to those that planned on watching tomorrow

NOOOOOOO!!!!!!! 

[RTT]

i´m almost certanly gonna play today at 19:00 UTC+2
so in a little more than 6 hours from this post on

http://www.twitch.tv/rtt_29

[yed]

I'm playing this round against Monsieur X, Wednesday 20:00 CEST (= 18:00 GMT)

I've never streamed anything before but I'd like to try and this match seems like a perfect candidate.

Monsieur X just requested me to change the day... we'll play Friday instead.
Same time. Sorry to those that planned on watching tomorrow

Please make sure you have the recording and saving of past streams enabled. I won't make the stream but would like to watch it later.

[SCSN]

I'm playing this round against Monsieur X, Wednesday 20:00 CEST (= 18:00 GMT)

I've never streamed anything before but I'd like to try and this match seems like a perfect candidate.

Monsieur X just requested me to change the day... we'll play Friday instead.
Same time. Sorry to those that planned on watching tomorrow

Where can we watch?

[jsh357]

http://www.twitch.tv/Stef_42

He was in my stream a few weeks ago.

[-Stef-]

http://www.twitch.tv/Stef_42

He was in my stream a few weeks ago.

Yup that's the one.
Going live in about 20 minutes.

This is a trial run, so I hope everything will be ok. And if not... I'll try to fix it next time

[soulnet]

I will (try to) stream my playoff match against Monsieur X. We are set for Saturday 2pm (GMT/UTC), so 4 pm in France and 11 am in Argentina.

I will be posting a youtube link with the live stream and a freenode link with a chatroom here before the match (despite trying, I could not get twitch to work from my computer, while Hangout broadcasts worked in the first trial). Hopefully, we won't go over the 4 hour limit.

[Titandrake]

I'll be streaming my playoff match against AI at 9 pm Pacific time on Tuesday.

I might not have a mic. If I don't have a mic, I'll just play some music I like.

[AdamH]

I'll be streaming my finals match with SheCantSayNo tomorrow (Tuesday) at 2PM Eastern, 6PM UTC.

I'll be streaming my playoff match against AI at 9 pm Pacific time on Tuesday.

I might not have a mic. If I don't have a mic, I'll just play some music I like.

This is about the time my usual Tuesday stream is over, I'll probably raid you when I'm done

[jsh357]

My match against MarkowKette should be sometime on Saturday or Sunday.  Not sure when yet.

[AdamH]

I'll be streaming my finals match with SheCantSayNo tomorrow (Tuesday) at 2PM Eastern, 6PM UTC.

I'll be streaming my playoff match against AI at 9 pm Pacific time on Tuesday.

I might not have a mic. If I don't have a mic, I'll just play some music I like.

This is about the time my usual Tuesday stream is over, I'll probably raid you when I'm done

Going live now!

http://www.twitch.tv/adamhorton

[Titandrake]

Okay so the match that was supposed to be at 9 pm is going to happen right now.

http://www.twitch.tv/titandrake

Edit: Woops it's actually happening at 9 pm pacific now. I'm going to mess around with a few games right now though.

[Titandrake]

Going live.

[-Stef-]

My match against DG will be Sunday, 20:30 CEST  (= UTC +2)

http://www.twitch.tv/Stef_42

[jsh357]

My match against MarkowKette will be taking place Sunday at "whenever Stef's match is over."  Why?  Well, so that people don't have to choose which to watch (let's not kid ourselves as to which they'd pick, but either way that works out for everyone).

[soulnet]

My match against Monsieur X will be starting in about 20 minutes.

You can login to freenode's IRC, channel "#gokodom" to chat about the game/stream. You can also point your browser to webchat.freenode.net and use the same channel name to chat from your browser instead of a local IRC client.

The stream will be available in my youtube channel once it starts. The channel is at: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCqe-9Jbq9lHzUeuyVOlcZw

I will try to edit this post with the stream link once it begins, and also post it in the chat.

EDIT: Feel free to chat about the ongoing game. I will be logged in just to retrieve and keep the chat to read later, and maybe post something in between games, but Monsieur X and I agreed not to look at the chat during games. Game will be completely live because I have no idea how to delay the broadcast, if at all possible.

EDIT2: Going live! The link for the stream is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50R3vNiSVJM

[jsh357]

Edit: derp

[MarkowKette]

Will be streaming my match against AI tonight at 10 PM EST (GMT -4).  Sorry about that one, day-walking Europeans.

  i really wanted to watch that live.

[AdamH]

Yeah I don't want to stream on top of this. I'll probably do my usual Tuesday stream earlier in the day and hopefully I'll be able to watch this.

[AdamH]

My quarterfinal match with Smartie will be at 9PM Eastern (GMT-4) on Saturday May 3 and I'll be streaming it.

If I'm not mistaken, I'm the last streamer left in the tournament. No pressure...

[SirD]

You video for us. Go Adam, go.

[AdamH]

My quarterfinal match with Smartie will be at 9PM Eastern (GMT-4) on Saturday May 3 and I'll be streaming it.

If I'm not mistaken, I'm the last streamer left in the tournament. No pressure...

Going live now!

http://www.twitch.tv/adamhorton

[SirD]

Congratulations, Adam.

It is so nice that "our last streamer" is still part of the match.
Go, do it, and beat AI, regardless of any chances suggested by any leaderboards.

[AdamH]

Congratulations, Adam.

It is so nice that "our last streamer" is still part of the match.
Go, do it, and beat AI, regardless of any chances suggested by any leaderboards.

Thanks, I'm glad people are enjoying watching this amazing run. 

My semifinal match with AI will be on Wednesday night at 9PM Eastern (GMT-4). This is a rematch of my round 3 game where I was crushed, hopefully I'll do better this time!

[Monsieur X]

oh nooooooooooooooo.... i thougth it was now... but thats 3am for me!!!
can we have a link to look at the match next?

[AdamH]

oh nooooooooooooooo.... i thougth it was now... but thats 3am for me!!!
can we have a link to look at the match next?

Sure, when I'm done streaming I'll put a link in this thread for those who don't want any spoilers

[AdamH]

My semifinal match with AI will be on Wednesday night at 9PM Eastern (GMT-4). This is a rematch of my round 3 game where I was crushed, hopefully I'll do better this time!

Going live shortly!

http://www.twitch.tv/adamhorton

[AdamH]

My semifinal match with AI will be on Wednesday night at 9PM Eastern (GMT-4). This is a rematch of my round 3 game where I was crushed, hopefully I'll do better this time!

Going live shortly!

http://www.twitch.tv/adamhorton

Here's the stream (no spoilers!), 3 hours and 45 minutes long http://www.twitch.tv/adamhorton/b/526808555
First game starts at about 17 minutes in.

[assemble_me]

My semifinal match with AI will be on Wednesday night at 9PM Eastern (GMT-4). This is a rematch of my round 3 game where I was crushed, hopefully I'll do better this time!

Going live shortly!

http://www.twitch.tv/adamhorton

3AM for me, too bad. Will watch it today or tomorrow evening

[AdamH]

The for-funsies third place match between michaeljb and myself will be on Tuesday, May 20 at 7PM Eastern (UTC-4) and I'll be streaming it!

After the finals match tonight I'll be shutting my eyes and ears to the forums so that I can remain unspoiled about the kingdoms we'll be playing, since we'll be using the same ones as in the finals. It will be exciting!

[ragingduckd]

Streaming the GokoDom III final at http://www.twitch.tv/ragingduckd.  Starting at 5 PM PDT (45 min from now).

[ragingduckd]

Streaming the GokoDom III final at http://www.twitch.tv/ragingduckd.  Starting at 5 PM PDT (45 min from now).

The raw video of the games is available on the twitch.tv page.

I'd also like to upload the recording I made of the twitch.tv page itself.  That includes the spectators' comments in the twitch chat rooom.  Is there a way to upload that video to twitch also, or do I have to host it somewhere else?

Match Result: Not yet decided!  So far it's tied at 4-4.  We'll be heading into extra innings on Saturday or Sunday (tbd).

[liopoil]

The raw video of the games is available on the twitch.tv page.

The video isn't loading for me. Are the logs posted somewhere?

[ragingduckd]

The raw video of the games is available on the twitch.tv page.

The video isn't loading for me. Are the logs posted somewhere?

http://www.twitch.tv/ragingduckd/b/529150366

And yes, just look up the unrated games between me and JOG.

[ragingduckd]

I'd also like to upload the recording I made of the twitch.tv page itself.  That includes the spectators' comments in the twitch chat rooom.  Is there a way to upload that video to twitch also, or do I have to host it somewhere else?

It turns out that any braindead monkey can upload to YouTube.  I guess I could have inferred that. Edit: Nope.  Apparently I'm not quite qualified.  Some of my videos just got rejected for being too long.

This playlist has the games along with the twitch.tv chat room.  So you can watch me play while reading about how I should be playing differently.  Still no audio.  JOG and I are planning to do a voice-over discussion this evening (Saturday), so I'll upload that version after.

GokoDom III Final - with observer chat

[SCSN]

Viewer discretion is advised, in case you didn't censor my characteristic bluntness.

[MarkowKette]

any word on when you two will finish the final of epicness?

[ragingduckd]

any word on when you two will finish the final of epicness?

Tomorrow (Sunday) afternoon/evening, depending on your time zone.  Probably 2 PM PDT, but that's not set in stone yet.

[Qvist]

GokoDom III Final - with observer chat

Thanks for doing this as I was not able to watch it live. I probably wouldn't have rewatched it without sound, but with twitch chat it's really interesting.
I just want you to know that the chat in game 7 is out of sync. I haven't watched game 8 yet, but after the first few seconds it seems that there is the same problem.

[Awaclus]

GokoDom III Final - with observer chat

Thanks for doing this as I was not able to watch it live. I probably wouldn't have rewatched it without sound, but with twitch chat it's really interesting.
I just want you to know that the chat in game 7 is out of sync. I haven't watched game 8 yet, but after the first few seconds it seems that there is the same problem.

The fact that you have to use spoiler tags for those games spoils it already.

[ragingduckd]

GokoDom III Final - with observer chat

Thanks for doing this as I was not able to watch it live. I probably wouldn't have rewatched it without sound, but with twitch chat it's really interesting.
I just want you to know that the chat in game 7 is out of sync. I haven't watched game 8 yet, but after the first few seconds it seems that there is the same problem.

How can you tell about the chat sync?  Is it way off?  I can probably fix it with a little video editing magic if I know how far off it is.

FYI, JOG and I just created audio commentary for games 1,2, and 5.  So I'll add that to the existing files sometime this evening.

Game 5 lasts 36 minutes, and games 4,6,7, and 8 are equally slow (mostly my fault).  JOG and I quickly realized that we just didn't have 36 minutes worth of stuff to say about the game, so I'm going to try strategically accelerating the other games before we add commentary to those.

We'll see if any of this works out at all well, but you may want to hold off on watching until I upload the new versions, particularly on the slower games.

[Kirian]

Game 5 lasts 36 minutes, and games 4,6,7, and 8 are equally slow (mostly my fault).  JOG and I quickly realized that we just didn't have 36 minutes worth of stuff to say about the game, so I'm going to try strategically accelerating the other games before we add commentary to those.

Don't accelerate the game; just slow down the audio commentary so it sounds like you've both recently inhaled xenon gas.

[Qvist]

GokoDom III Final - with observer chat

Thanks for doing this as I was not able to watch it live. I probably wouldn't have rewatched it without sound, but with twitch chat it's really interesting.
I just want you to know that the chat in game 7 is out of sync. I haven't watched game 8 yet, but after the first few seconds it seems that there is the same problem.

How can you tell about the chat sync?  Is it way off?  I can probably fix it with a little video editing magic if I know how far off it is.

It's about 5mins off, probably exactly the stream delay!?

[ragingduckd]

GokoDom III Final - with observer chat

Thanks for doing this as I was not able to watch it live. I probably wouldn't have rewatched it without sound, but with twitch chat it's really interesting.
I just want you to know that the chat in game 7 is out of sync. I haven't watched game 8 yet, but after the first few seconds it seems that there is the same problem.

How can you tell about the chat sync?  Is it way off?  I can probably fix it with a little video editing magic if I know how far off it is.

It's about 5mins off, probably exactly the stream delay!?

Hmm... it might be off by 5 min, but it's definitely not because of the stream delay.  That affects both the broadcast and the chat itself.

[liopoil]

it looks to me like it is scrolled up, and new chat messages (that are in sync with the video), are appearing well below the screen, and we only see them once they are pushed up by even newer chat messages.

[SirD]

Dear AI,

are you going to announce it somewhere when you have re-uploaded the video with your audio commentary? I am looking forward to seeing it.

[ragingduckd]

it looks to me like it is scrolled up, and new chat messages (that are in sync with the video), are appearing well below the screen, and we only see them once they are pushed up by even newer chat messages.

Ah, okay.  I think I know what the problem is then.

Dear AI,

are you going to announce it somewhere when you have re-uploaded the video with your audio commentary? I am looking forward to seeing it.

Yes.

[AdamH]

The for-funsies third place match between michaeljb and myself will be on Tuesday, May 20 at 7PM Eastern (UTC-4) and I'll be streaming it!

Going live now!

http://www.twitch.tv/adamhorton

[ragingduckd]

it looks to me like it is scrolled up, and new chat messages (that are in sync with the video), are appearing well below the screen, and we only see them once they are pushed up by even newer chat messages.

Ah, okay.  I think I know what the problem is then.

Dear AI,

are you going to announce it somewhere when you have re-uploaded the video with your audio commentary? I am looking forward to seeing it.

Yes.

Improved versions of the videos for my match with JOG are up on my GokoDom III Finals youtube playlist.

I mostly fixed the game-vs-chat sync problem with games 7 and 8.  It can't be perfectly fixed because the recording itself is flawed, but I was able to get reasonably close.

I've uploaded games 9 and 10 with SCSN and Mic Q doing live their commentary.  Unfortunately, my secondary OBS recording that was supposed to capture the twitch chat room didn't work right.

JOG and I did post-game audio commentary for games 1, 2, and 5.  After doing the 36-minute-long game 5, we decided that we just didn't have enough to talk about during all that time to warrant doing to same for games 3,4,6,7,8.

One solution would be to strategically accelerate those games so that they run for 10-15 minutes instead of 25-40.  It probably wouldn't work all that well to just 3x the whole video though, so it really would require some effort to identify and selectively accelerate through the parts where I'm apparently just sitting there meditating.  And I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed at the moment, so while I'd be happy to participate in more post-game commentary, someone else would have to do the video editing to accelerate the games.  Any volunteers?

[Awaclus]

One solution would be to strategically accelerate those games so that they run for 10-15 minutes instead of 25-40.  It probably wouldn't work all that well to just 3x the whole video though, so it really would require some effort to identify and selectively accelerate through the parts where I'm apparently just sitting there meditating.  And I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed at the moment, so while I'd be happy to participate in more post-game commentary, someone else would have to do the video editing to accelerate the games.  Any volunteers?

I could do that if nobody else is willing, though with my connection, getting the edited files back to you might take a while.

[ragingduckd]

One solution would be to strategically accelerate those games so that they run for 10-15 minutes instead of 25-40.  It probably wouldn't work all that well to just 3x the whole video though, so it really would require some effort to identify and selectively accelerate through the parts where I'm apparently just sitting there meditating.  And I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed at the moment, so while I'd be happy to participate in more post-game commentary, someone else would have to do the video editing to accelerate the games.  Any volunteers?

I could do that if nobody else is willing, though with my connection, getting the edited files back to you might take a while.

Thanks!  And please don't feel obligated if you start doing it and decide the task is just too intolerably boring. 

As encoded, it's about 300 MB for games 3,4,6,7,8 all combined.  So depending on how aggressively you accelerate and your settings for reencoding, it might not be more than 100 MB or so that you'd have to upload back.

I'm uploading them to a public Google Drive folder right now: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B0XpKAqh3XUTam14ZC1adkkyODA&usp=sharing

I can't imagine all this reencoding is good for the video quality, but we'll see what we get.  Right now it's at 250kpbs, 10 fps, and a very low keyframe rate (1/30s, i think).  That last is very important to getting good quality Dominion at a low bitrate.

[AdamH]

If this gets done could someone post here about it? I may find myself with some time this week and I might go ahead and do this if nobody else has.

[AdamH]

michaeljb and I will be playing the rest of the KDC finalists tonight for fun at 7:30PM Eastern (UTC-4) and I'll be streaming it.

[AdamH]

michaeljb and I will be playing the rest of the KDC finalists tonight for fun at 7:30PM Eastern (UTC-4) and I'll be streaming it.

Going live now!

http://www.twitch.tv/adamhorton

[Awaclus]

One solution would be to strategically accelerate those games so that they run for 10-15 minutes instead of 25-40.  It probably wouldn't work all that well to just 3x the whole video though, so it really would require some effort to identify and selectively accelerate through the parts where I'm apparently just sitting there meditating.  And I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed at the moment, so while I'd be happy to participate in more post-game commentary, someone else would have to do the video editing to accelerate the games.  Any volunteers?

I could do that if nobody else is willing, though with my connection, getting the edited files back to you might take a while.

Thanks!  And please don't feel obligated if you start doing it and decide the task is just too intolerably boring. 

As encoded, it's about 300 MB for games 3,4,6,7,8 all combined.  So depending on how aggressively you accelerate and your settings for reencoding, it might not be more than 100 MB or so that you'd have to upload back.

I'm uploading them to a public Google Drive folder right now: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B0XpKAqh3XUTam14ZC1adkkyODA&usp=sharing

I can't imagine all this reencoding is good for the video quality, but we'll see what we get.  Right now it's at 250kpbs, 10 fps, and a very low keyframe rate (1/30s, i think).  That last is very important to getting good quality Dominion at a low bitrate.

Oh, right, I was supposed to do this too. I'm going to start tomorrow.

[Awaclus]

When the audio is being added, there is no reason to re-encode again, right? So I should just try to make the optimal compromise between quality and file size here. EDIT: I can get them down to ~10MB per video with a tolerable (and I'm really picky) quality.

Also, I tried doing this with AviSynth, which would've been pretty nice since uploading the script would have been enough, but alas, for some reason, AvsPmod doesn't want to show the preview of the video for these files even though it works fine on others . And it's just too much of a hassle to do it with Notepad and MPC-HC.

[Awaclus]

So, I forgot about this again. Are people still interested in this?

[SirD]

You are right. I honestly dont know.