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[Robz888]

I dare people to lynch her and prove me wrong.

Okay. Vote: Raerae

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.20iPad:

raerae (6): AndrewisFTTW, mail-mi, mcmcsalot, scott_pilgrim, shraeye, robz888
yuma (1): pingpongsam
scott_pilgrim (3): Eevee, A Drowned Kernel, Yuma
AndrewisFTTW (1): raerae

Not Voting (1): Axxle

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends at 4:30 p.m. on March 3, 2014.

That is in less than 2 hours.

[Robz888]

Someone hammer, please.

[Axxle]

Intent to hammer at 1pm PST.

[Axxle]

Someone hammer, please.

Has she claimed?

[Robz888]

Someone hammer, please.

Has she claimed?

No. I think she said she wouldn't, and already got to L-1, but let's check.

[Robz888]

I guess she was technically never L-1, and didn't say she wouldn't claim. Let's let her, obviously.

[shraeye]

Someone hammer, please.

Has she claimed?

No, but raerae doesn't claim.

What's the argument on scott again? Because I don't want to lynch raerae just for being raerae.

No... unvote.

I don't like being behind shraeye... Are we sure we don't want to lynch him?

back to vote: scott unless we can lynch shraeye, I am more sure about him than I am about raerae

And here it is.  He claimed to want to vote for raerae and still has raerae as a scum read, but chooses not to put her to L-1.  you know that if you voted for her, somebody would hammer that.  You're the deciding vote, and you're deciding not to lynch her...DESPITE your read on her.  That's shenanigans.  Raerae being sassy is not indicative of her being town, It's indicative of her being raerae.  And you should know that.  You're just grabbing at flimsy reasons not to Lynch your partner.  I'm calling it here and now.

Raerae and yuma are partners, 200%.

I'm pretty sure yuma townslipped earlier though...

Where and how?  I see scum all over his treatment of raerae.

[shraeye]

I guess she was technically never L-1, and didn't say she wouldn't claim. Let's let her, obviously.

I think we have to forego that, considering that rae doesn't claim, deadline is at 430, and that's basically right when she gets off work.

[Robz888]

I guess she was technically never L-1, and didn't say she wouldn't claim. Let's let her, obviously.

I think we have to forego that, considering that rae doesn't claim, deadline is at 430, and that's basically right when she gets off work.

Okay then. Well, you get your wish.

[Axxle]

Someone hammer, please.

Has she claimed?

No, but raerae doesn't claim.

I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt.

As for the slip:

Oh, you're right.  I should probably just hope on whatever bandwagon forms next and plunk my vote there. 

Yep that is exactly what I said...

Now that we have gotten our passive aggressive sarcasm out of the way.... Seriously though. Look at it this way. There are 3 mafia to 10 town. It takes 7 to lynch. If you are town and if you are just keeping your vote on Andrew then town has one less vote to utilize in finding scum. I know you think that Andrew is scum. He might be, he might not be. But the fact of the matter is that he isn't getting lynched today... So your vote is in effect "not voting" for purposes of finding a lynch. This is all stuff you already know, so I dont' even know why I am saying it.... but I will say it anyways... And no I am not saying just plunk your vote down onto a wagon. But analyze the wagons see who you find the most likely to be scum and usefully and effectively place your vote on someone. I am pretty sure you already knew that I was effectively saying this above, but here it is again spelled out for you.

"3 mafia to 10 town" - I doubt scum would make this mistake.
This whole post feels pretty town to me, treating raerae as town even if she's a scum read. I don't think scum would do that with their partner. From his posts since 324 I see a natural strong scumread progress to a weak enough read to want to pursue others. His lack of tunneling is pretty town.

[shraeye]

3 mafia to 10 town...thats a mistake?

Also, I think that scum yuma had a fake shady-read on raerae, therefore 'treating her as town' is in fact a mistake that showed his true thoughts were different from his 'reads'

[Robz888]

Someone hammer, please.

Has she claimed?

No, but raerae doesn't claim.

I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt.

As for the slip:

Oh, you're right.  I should probably just hope on whatever bandwagon forms next and plunk my vote there. 

Yep that is exactly what I said...

Now that we have gotten our passive aggressive sarcasm out of the way.... Seriously though. Look at it this way. There are 3 mafia to 10 town. It takes 7 to lynch. If you are town and if you are just keeping your vote on Andrew then town has one less vote to utilize in finding scum. I know you think that Andrew is scum. He might be, he might not be. But the fact of the matter is that he isn't getting lynched today... So your vote is in effect "not voting" for purposes of finding a lynch. This is all stuff you already know, so I dont' even know why I am saying it.... but I will say it anyways... And no I am not saying just plunk your vote down onto a wagon. But analyze the wagons see who you find the most likely to be scum and usefully and effectively place your vote on someone. I am pretty sure you already knew that I was effectively saying this above, but here it is again spelled out for you.

"3 mafia to 10 town" - I doubt scum would make this mistake.
This whole post feels pretty town to me, treating raerae as town even if she's a scum read. I don't think scum would do that with their partner. From his posts since 324 I see a natural strong scumread progress to a weak enough read to want to pursue others. His lack of tunneling is pretty town.

I agree, Axxle.

[Axxle]

3 mafia to 10 town...thats a mistake?

12 player game. Proof is left as an exercise to the reader.

[pingpongsam]

Available by phone to deadline trying to analyze the raerae wagon now.

[pingpongsam]

Why is yuma not voting raerae?

[pingpongsam]

Still reading raerae as town and could nitpick the wagoneers but mostly see a misled town see more scum in yuma, eevee and ADK, agree it does feel similar to DoP.

[pingpongsam]

If I had to pick scum off the raerae wagon :

Robz: way out of meta with so many votes inclined to read this as willing town though since scum Robz wouldn't be so active.

Mcmc: agree with some earlier reads on him, he has felt relatively scummy all game to me but iinm I have no meta on him.

Scott could be the Ahoppy of this game.

Shraye is way too enthusiastic about the wagon but the limb this puts him on is not made for scum

[pingpongsam]

Why is Axxle not voting?

[Axxle]

Also, I think that scum yuma had a fake shady-read on raerae, therefore 'treating her as town' is in fact a mistake that showed his true thoughts were different from his 'reads'

If this is true that means yuma is far more likely to be scum than raerae.

Why is Axxle not voting?

Please read my posts.

[shraeye]

That's why yuma is my #1.  But his lynch wasn't happening.

[pingpongsam]

Why is Axxle not voting?

Please read my posts.

So, because you're waiting on a claim that will be useless when you are forced to hammer in 30 minutes? I can see why you didn't want to type that nonsense out yourself. So, what is the real reason?

[Axxle]

Why is Axxle not voting?

Please read my posts.

So, because you're waiting on a claim that will be useless when you are forced to hammer in 30 minutes? I can see why you didn't want to type that nonsense out yourself. So, what is the real reason?

Because I'm really null on raerae and I'd like as much information as possible before ending the day.
What other reason would I have?

[Axxle]

Vote: raerae

[ashersky]

Final Day 1 Vote Count:

raerae (7): AndrewisFTTW, mail-mi, mcmcsalot, scott_pilgrim, shraeye, robz888, Axxle
yuma (1): pingpongsam
scott_pilgrim (3): Eevee, A Drowned Kernel, Yuma
AndrewisFTTW (1): raerae

Not Voting (0):

With 12 alive, it took 7 to lynch.