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DominionStrategy Championschips 2014
« on: January 03, 2014, 02:51:46 pm »
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 So, here are my ideas.

Play off bracket (like the championschips 2011/2012)
With 128 or 256 players (maybe with a prelim round to find the best 128 / 256 out)
Playing from May - November 2014.
Maybe the "last 8"," last 4 " as a live tournament
Qualifing about the Goko Rank, the rank at the last championschip and a prelim round.
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Re: DominionStrategy Championschips 2014
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2014, 02:59:54 pm »
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A Idea for the qualification good be:

1. Rule: The best 64 from the last DominionStrategy
2. The best 128  Goko Rank players, arent qualifing thanks Rule 1.
3. 24 Players qualifing thanks an European Prelim round
4. 24 Player qualifing thanks an American Prelim round
5. 8 Players qualifing thanks an Australian Prdelim round
6. 4 Players qualifing thanks an African Prelim round
7. 4 Players qualifing thanks an Asian Prelim round.

So all players have a chance to take a part.
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Re: DominionStrategy Championschips 2014
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2014, 04:15:59 pm »
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I think about a single elimination bracket.
When you lose one game, you are out of the tournament

Losing one game seems harsh. Sometimes things don't work out in a game.
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Re: DominionStrategy Championschips 2014
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2014, 04:19:07 pm »
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Australia is not a continent. You should replace for Oceania.

Also, the Asian numbers seem way low. What data are you basing your slot allocation in?
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Re: DominionStrategy Championschips 2014
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2014, 04:27:05 pm »
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Australia is not a continent. You should replace for Oceania.

Also, the Asian numbers seem way low. What data are you basing your slot allocation in?

Nope, Oceania is a region

The continent is called Australia.

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Re: DominionStrategy Championschips 2014
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2014, 04:39:58 pm »
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Asia would definitely need more slots--there were so many Japanese players in the world cup that it has 2 divisions.

Either way I'm not a fan of nationality having anything to do with the DS Championships.  It should be entirely about skill and proven success (pulling 64 from last time is fine).
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Re: DominionStrategy Championschips 2014
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2014, 04:43:19 pm »
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Nope, Oceania is a region

The continent is called Australia.

Wow! That's apparently true in English, but in Spanish, Oceania is the continent and Australia is just the country. Quite odd.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia_(continent)
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean%C3%ADa
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Re: DominionStrategy Championschips 2014
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2014, 05:47:24 pm »
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i mean Australia and Oceania , of course.

Do you like the idea of prelim rounds for each continent. You say: More players for Asia! So whats about that?

Best from last tournament: 64
Best from Goko Rank: 128
Continental Prelim Rounds: 64:
Europe: 2
North/Middle America: 20
Asia: 10
Africa: 4
Australia and Oceania: 6
South America: 4

On the other side we could organize a World Wide Prelim Tournament. The funny thing on the continental prelim round is that we have players from all other the world.


One question about the "Play offs" What do you thinking about that

First Round: Best of 3, Second Round: Best of 5, Third Round: Best of 7,   and so far  Of course I want not a Best of 17 in the final, want you?
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Re: DominionStrategy Championschips 2014
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2014, 05:52:40 pm »
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There is really little point on separating North and Central America from South America, since we are roughly in the same range of time zones. Really, the only reason to separate geographically is time zones, so I would separate in GMT ranges instead of geographically and then assign slots proportionally to the number of people within each range. That's better that some random assignment of slots per region.
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Re: DominionStrategy Championschips 2014
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2014, 06:18:24 pm »
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But on the other side its classic to have players from each continent. In every other sports its the same. I dont like a qualifing by timezones.
And there isnt a problem with timezones (and in Asia, the players must find a time when both players are at home, and i think, Rusia has 9 timezones, but that should be not a big problem.
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Re: DominionStrategy Championschips 2014
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2014, 06:21:20 pm »
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Why i would split up America in North/Middle and South?

I want that there are players from Argentinia and Brasil, too, and not only from Canada and USA
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Re: DominionStrategy Championschips 2014
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2014, 07:17:27 pm »
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I think that if a championship that explicitly associates itself with f.ds is to be organised at all, it should be done by someone very reputable from this community, ideally someone with some experience organizing  similar tournaments.

Maybe the "last 8"," last 4 " as a live tournament

This suggestion alone signals a lack of experience and insufficient familiarity with the target audience of this tournament. People here live all over the world and are unwilling to travel to another continent just to play some friendly games where nothing much can be won in terms of material gain.
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Re: DominionStrategy Championschips 2014
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2014, 07:23:48 pm »
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Why i would split up America in North/Middle and South?

I want that there are players from Argentinia and Brasil, too, and not only from Canada and USA
Somehow, I don't think Canadian players will be filing many slots in the bracket at all, based on their turnout of the Dominion Team World Cup. Maybe because the Canadian population is only about 1/9th the American population?

I don't know. I don't see why it's necessary to go through all the trouble of balancing out preliminary brackets for all the continents. On the other hand, I can't think of a good reason why there shouldn't be such divisions. I guess it makes some sense because they'd be from the 65th-128th best players in the tourney?
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Re: DominionStrategy Championschips 2014
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2014, 07:24:08 pm »
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It wasnt my idea it was a idea of another here
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Re: DominionStrategy Championschips 2014
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2014, 07:28:52 pm »
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Are there other opions pro / contra    continental prelims / timezone prelims

On the other hand, there could be the opion to say: Only the best 256 Goko Players get a "tournament card"
But i think: Thats very boring.
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Re: DominionStrategy Championschips 2014
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2014, 07:48:31 pm »
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Are there other opions pro / contra    continental prelims / timezone prelims

On the other hand, there could be the opion to say: Only the best 256 Goko Players get a "tournament card"
But i think: Thats very boring.
I agree that simply having the best 256 Goko/Isotropish players would be very boring. I like the idea of timezone preliminaries, although continental preliminaries mostly restrict the timezone variance anyway.
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Re: DominionStrategy Championschips 2014
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2014, 07:52:51 pm »
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What about qualifing by countries
1 from each countrie and from good countries 2 ???

Why is the idea of the timezones so great?
In some timezones we have only a few players in other timezones we have hundred of good players.
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Re: DominionStrategy Championschips 2014
« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2014, 07:59:08 pm »
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What about qualifing by countries
1 from each countrie and from good countries 2 ???

Why is the idea of the timezones so great?
In some timezones we have only a few players in other timezones we have hundred of good players.

1 from each country sounds awesome!
Tuvalu here!

Actually time zone works for me as well, anyone else in UTC+12?
Nope, good, im in then
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Re: DominionStrategy Championschips 2014
« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2014, 08:00:55 pm »
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there is another thread to discuss about the qualifing rules.
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Re: DominionStrategy Championschips 2014
« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2014, 08:02:53 pm »
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there is another thread to discuss about the qualifing rules.

Was that aimed at me or you? *grins*

Because both our posts about Qualifying came after that other thread was posted
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Re: DominionStrategy Championschips 2014
« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2014, 08:48:01 pm »
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But on the other side its classic to have players from each continent. In every other sports its the same. I dont like a qualifing by timezones.
And there isnt a problem with timezones (and in Asia, the players must find a time when both players are at home, and i think, Rusia has 9 timezones, but that should be not a big problem.

That's because sports are usually played in person and for that geographic proximity is important to minimize cost of travel. In some cases, sharing some cultural background is important. But if that's the case, the US should probably be together with the UK and the Russians together with the former soviets, and so on and so forth. Continents do not accurately reflect anything other than geographic proximity. For online playing, geographic proximity clearly does not matter, but time zone proximity may.
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Re: DominionStrategy Championschips 2014
« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2014, 03:56:37 am »
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Why i would split up America in North/Middle and South?

I want that there are players from Argentinia and Brasil, too, and not only from Canada and USA
Somehow, I don't think Canadian players will be filing many slots in the bracket at all, based on their turnout of the Dominion Team World Cup. Maybe because the Canadian population is only about 1/9th the American population?

I don't know. I don't see why it's necessary to go through all the trouble of balancing out preliminary brackets for all the continents. On the other hand, I can't think of a good reason why there shouldn't be such divisions. I guess it makes some sense because they'd be from the 65th-128th best players in the tourney?

I didn't play for Canada because it was the middle of term for me. Now I'm on break for a while and I have some time to play in this.
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Re: DominionStrategy Championschips 2014
« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2014, 04:56:28 am »
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Then I am probably the only Singapore representative? Haha
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Re: DominionStrategy Championschips 2014
« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2014, 09:52:46 am »
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Why not?
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Re: DominionStrategy Championschips 2014
« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2014, 10:20:29 am »
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Re: DominionStrategy Championschips 2014
« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2014, 10:36:27 am »
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If there are to much countries, some countrys only get a half "tour card"

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Re: DominionStrategy Championschips 2014
« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2014, 11:22:01 am »
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Why i would split up America in North/Middle and South?

I want that there are players from Argentinia and Brasil, too, and not only from Canada and USA
Somehow, I don't think Canadian players will be filing many slots in the bracket at all, based on their turnout of the Dominion Team World Cup. Maybe because the Canadian population is only about 1/9th the American population?

I don't know. I don't see why it's necessary to go through all the trouble of balancing out preliminary brackets for all the continents. On the other hand, I can't think of a good reason why there shouldn't be such divisions. I guess it makes some sense because they'd be from the 65th-128th best players in the tourney?

I didn't play for Canada because it was the middle of term for me. Now I'm on break for a while and I have some time to play in this.
So was I. In hindsight, that did actually cause problems for me. Hopefully, if this happens it will be at a time where you're free.
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Re: DominionStrategy Championschips 2014
« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2014, 12:15:30 pm »
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Why i would split up America in North/Middle and South?

I want that there are players from Argentinia and Brasil, too, and not only from Canada and USA
Somehow, I don't think Canadian players will be filing many slots in the bracket at all, based on their turnout of the Dominion Team World Cup. Maybe because the Canadian population is only about 1/9th the American population?

I don't know. I don't see why it's necessary to go through all the trouble of balancing out preliminary brackets for all the continents. On the other hand, I can't think of a good reason why there shouldn't be such divisions. I guess it makes some sense because they'd be from the 65th-128th best players in the tourney?

I didn't play for Canada because it was the middle of term for me. Now I'm on break for a while and I have some time to play in this.
So was I. In hindsight, that did actually cause problems for me. Hopefully, if this happens it will be at a time where you're free.

Yeah. Even start of term is OK.
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Re: DominionStrategy Championschips 2014
« Reply #28 on: January 04, 2014, 05:54:16 pm »
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Why i would split up America in North/Middle and South?

I want that there are players from Argentinia and Brasil, too, and not only from Canada and USA
Somehow, I don't think Canadian players will be filing many slots in the bracket at all, based on their turnout of the Dominion Team World Cup. Maybe because the Canadian population is only about 1/9th the American population?

I don't know. I don't see why it's necessary to go through all the trouble of balancing out preliminary brackets for all the continents. On the other hand, I can't think of a good reason why there shouldn't be such divisions. I guess it makes some sense because they'd be from the 65th-128th best players in the tourney?

I didn't play for Canada because it was the middle of term for me. Now I'm on break for a while and I have some time to play in this.
So was I. In hindsight, that did actually cause problems for me. Hopefully, if this happens it will be at a time where you're free.

Yeah. Even start of term is OK.
Start of term is best case scenario for me, as I start my next semester on Monday. At any rate, I'll be keeping up with any news of Dominion tournaments.
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Re: DominionStrategy Championschips 2014
« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2014, 07:12:19 am »
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People here live all over the world and are unwilling to travel to another continent just to play some friendly games where nothing much can be won in terms of material gain.

Well... if Goko continues to be a big shit, maybe it'll be more easy to travel to Tuvalu to play a live tournament?
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Re: DominionStrategy Championschips 2014
« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2014, 08:27:11 am »
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When you pay the tickets  :)
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Re: DominionStrategy Championschips 2014
« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2014, 01:57:36 pm »
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People here live all over the world and are unwilling to travel to another continent just to play some friendly games where nothing much can be won in terms of material gain.

Well... if Goko continues to be a big shit, maybe it'll be more easy to travel to Tuvalu to play a live tournament?

Please make sure you bring your own coconuts if you do!
Last people I had over to play Dominion were all very rude on that front...
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