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Overpaying for Anything!
« on: June 14, 2013, 05:01:08 am »
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How about overpaying for anything, creating a faux +Buy?

Returns - Treasure $5
$2
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While this is in play, you may overpay for every card that doesn't have an overpay effect.
If you do, gain a card worth up to the amount you overspent.
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Re: Overpaying for Anything!
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2013, 06:03:55 am »
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Seems that it will combo with Contraband, because it will mitigate its negative effect.
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Re: Overpaying for Anything!
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2013, 06:55:39 am »
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How about overpaying for anything, creating a faux +Buy?

Returns - Treasure $5
$2
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While this is in play, you may overpay for every card that doesn't have an overpay effect.
If you do, gain a card worth up to the amount you overspent.

Seems like a lot of text for what essentially amounts to +1 Buy in most cases.
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Re: Overpaying for Anything!
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2013, 07:31:16 am »
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Seems like a lot of text for what essentially amounts to +1 Buy in most cases.
It's more like *2 Buys, but only one copy of it counts. So it should be useful in situations where you need to piledrive something. I'm not sure I like the card but I wouldn't say that it's effectively the same as +1 Buy.
« Last Edit: June 14, 2013, 07:36:07 am by Bron »
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Re: Overpaying for Anything!
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2013, 09:29:18 am »
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I'd like this topic to continue as a discussion what we could do with overpaying for other cards.

The card in question I just made up quickly to illustrate my point. :)

You could make a card that lets you get Coins for overspent money or something similar.
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Re: Overpaying for Anything!
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2013, 11:58:07 am »
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Builder
$3 Action - Reaction
+$2
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When you buy a card without an overpay effect, you may reveal this from your hand. If you do, you may overpay for it. If you do, +1 Buy.
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Re: Overpaying for Anything!
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2013, 12:00:48 pm »
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$3 Action - Reaction
+$2
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When you buy a card without an overpay effect, you may reveal this from your hand. If you do, you may overpay for it. If you do, +1 Buy.

You mean, +1 Buy for each $1 you overpaid.
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Re: Overpaying for Anything!
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2013, 12:10:33 pm »
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Come to think of it, Stonemason basically does this. You can overpay for any Action card by $2 to get another one of the same cost and a Stonemason.
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Re: Overpaying for Anything!
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2013, 12:34:42 pm »
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Come to think of it, Stonemason basically does this. You can overpay for any Action card by $2 to get another one of the same cost and a Stonemason.

I mean, Border Village is roughly the same concept as well.
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Re: Overpaying for Anything!
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2013, 01:28:43 pm »
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$3 Action - Reaction
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When you buy a card without an overpay effect, you may reveal this from your hand. If you do, you may overpay for it. If you do, +1 Buy.

You mean, +1 Buy for each $1 you overpaid.
It doesn't matter, since you can reveal this again when you spend your next buy.
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Re: Overpaying for Anything!
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2013, 01:47:22 pm »
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When you buy a card without an overpay effect, you may reveal this from your hand. If you do, you may overpay for it. If you do, +1 Buy.

You mean, +1 Buy for each $1 you overpaid.
It doesn't matter, since you can reveal this again when you spend your next buy.

Sure, but Donald X specifically stated that the overpay mechanic is such that the benefit you get is bigger when you pay more.  By your original wording, I could overpay $10 and still only get 1 buy.  The rephrase brings it more in line with the official mechanic.
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Re: Overpaying for Anything!
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2013, 11:40:09 am »
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Especially for new players it is very frustrating to amass $20 and then buy just one province, since they have no +buy. One can feel really bad about it. Here is my solution.

Enjoy!
$0 action
You cannot buy or gain this card.
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Setup: During this game all players can overpay for cards and feel good about it. The more they overpay the better they can feel.
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Re: Overpaying for Anything!
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2013, 11:53:06 am »
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When you buy a card without an overpay effect, you may reveal this from your hand. If you do, you may overpay for it. If you do, +1 Buy.

I know that this is not important, but don't you need to word it like: When you would buy ...
Or in other words isn't it already too late to try to overpay for something that is already bought?
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Re: Overpaying for Anything!
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2013, 11:59:40 am »
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I wanted to suggest overpay-topdecking, so you could make Nomad Camp out of Woodcutter. Then i noticed this is exactly what Herald does.
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Re: Overpaying for Anything!
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2013, 01:02:35 pm »
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I know that this is not important, but don't you need to word it like: When you would buy ...
Or in other words isn't it already too late to try to overpay for something that is already bought?
No. That's the way the official cards are worded, too.
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Re: Overpaying for Anything!
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2013, 02:09:01 pm »
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No. That's the way the official cards are worded, too.
But on those cards you first buy something and then you do something else. Like when you buy victory card gain gold. You first pay, then buy victory card and then you gain gold.

You now want to buy something, then reveal something then go back and during that buy do someting - overpay.
At least as I understand it overpay occurs during the buy not after buy.

If my thinking is correct, then you want to interupt that buy like Trader interupts gain. And Trader is worded "would gain"

Maybe the problem is with my understanding of english (I'm not a native speaker)

If someone would told me: When you buy a bread jump. I will first buy a bread and then jump, not during the act of buying - is that corret?
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Re: Overpaying for Anything!
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2013, 02:19:15 pm »
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You now want to buy something, then reveal something then go back and during that buy do someting - overpay.
At least as I understand it overpay occurs during the buy not after buy.

There's no difference between during the buy and after the buy. All that matters is that all on-buy effects happen before the gain.
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Re: Overpaying for Anything!
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2013, 03:55:32 pm »
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No. That's the way the official cards are worded, too.
But on those cards you first buy something and then you do something else. Like when you buy victory card gain gold. You first pay, then buy victory card and then you gain gold.

You now want to buy something, then reveal something then go back and during that buy do someting - overpay.
At least as I understand it overpay occurs during the buy not after buy.

If my thinking is correct, then you want to interupt that buy like Trader interupts gain. And Trader is worded "would gain"

Maybe the problem is with my understanding of english (I'm not a native speaker)

If someone would told me: When you buy a bread jump. I will first buy a bread and then jump, not during the act of buying - is that corret?
Yes, you will first buy a bread and then jump, and all the overpaying happens after the buy (before the gain).
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Re: Overpaying for Anything!
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2013, 04:23:45 pm »
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Scout
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When you buy this, you may overpay for it. For each $2 you overpaid, gain an Estate, putting it on top of your deck.

Now you can leave estates on top of your deck for scouts to pick up!









Oh, wait...
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Re: Overpaying for Anything!
« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2013, 07:37:58 pm »
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Yes, you will first buy a bread and then jump, and all the overpaying happens after the buy (before the gain).
Thank you.
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