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[2.71828.....]

...we should have lynched hockey first, but it won't really matter as there won't be any new information tomorrow

Yeah, then we could have had our flawless victory. 

Fun game.  I probably should have counterclaimed Ghacob, but it all worked out in the end. 

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Also, not killing/lynching any PRs makes for a very tough endgame.  As scum, we still had to choose between 4 different possible setups.  Now, with Ghacob's semi-claim it was basically narrowed down to tracker/1-shot BP or tracker/doctor.

I would have claimed doctor, but I know there had to be a tracker, so extremely risky.  I should have claimed 1-shot BP right after Ghacob's little claim.  But it worked out.  Even though the game ended with the mod-kill posting during a thread lock thing, the intent was clear.  Hockey was going to be lynched.

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with the claim, it would have been me vs Ghacob, then with a correct lynch Teproc vs Hockey.

I don't know which is better.  Town (Ghacob and Joseph) basically decided who they thought was the scum team, and then the votes were decided for that day and D4 (had we got there). 

I just thought with how much I ended up delaying a claim, mine would be harder to believe.

[Joseph2302]

...we should have lynched hockey first, but it won't really matter as there won't be any new information tomorrow

Yeah, then we could have had our flawless victory. 

Fun game.  I probably should have counterclaimed Ghacob, but it all worked out in the end.

Was surprised no-one counterclaimed. Also, frustrating way to end, but Ghacob would probably have killed hockey anyway, in which case we'd lost. Maybe I should have fakeclaimed 1-shot bulletproof, although I don't think it would have mattered.

[hockeysemlan]

...we should have lynched hockey first, but it won't really matter as there won't be any new information tomorrow

Yeah, then we could have had our flawless victory. 

Fun game.  I probably should have counterclaimed Ghacob, but it all worked out in the end.

Was surprised no-one counterclaimed. Also, frustrating way to end, but Ghacob would probably have killed hockey anyway, in which case we'd lost. Maybe I should have fakeclaimed 1-shot bulletproof, although I don't think it would have mattered.

Hm.. I think it just would have caused me to try to hardlynch Ghacob. Can't still really accept that he wasn't scum

[ashersky]

Go sign up for mistborn!

[skip wooznum]

And we can't even use Joseph, since obviously whichever scum we don't lynch will kill him.

did anyone else take this as teproc hinting at whom his teammate should kill in case he got lynched? I immediately assumed teproc/hockey due to this

[EgorK]

And we can't even use Joseph, since obviously whichever scum we don't lynch will kill him.

did anyone else take this as teproc hinting at whom his teammate should kill in case he got lynched? I immediately assumed teproc/hockey due to this

It is too obvious to needing to hint this

[silverspawn]

mh. unsatisfying game, overall. the ending was really unfortunate.

well played teproc!

[Teproc]

FWIW, I disagree with the modkill. Ghacob is a newer player and his post was clearly not in his interest (it was just giving info to scum). And modkilling at lylo alwyas sucks, though of course in this case it really didn't matter, it just spares hockey the trauma of being mislynched at lylo

As I said in the speccy, I'm happy with my play days 1 and 2, not so much day 3. I wasn't super satisfied with our interactions (with e I mean) on day 1, but we did great on day 2 and obviously it worked since hockey would have been lynched next.

Day 3 though... We didn't even discuss what we should do in case of a massclaim, and we definitely should have. I was very annoyed that e didn't counterclaim but that's unfair because I was probably in a better position to do it, and didn't just because I don't like fakeclaiming (no good reason for it, just don't like doing it). Also as it turns out, e was our ticket to the victory so yeah, I was the one who should have claimed.

[Teproc]

To silverspawn : I look forward to you trying to get my scum meta because there are certainly things there to be found that haven't been found yet (there is something in particular I know is a scum!Teproc trait, but haven't bothered to fix because no one's noticed yet).

[skip wooznum]

And we can't even use Joseph, since obviously whichever scum we don't lynch will kill him.

did anyone else take this as teproc hinting at whom his teammate should kill in case he got lynched? I immediately assumed teproc/hockey due to this

It is too obvious to needing to hint this

and it was hockey's first game

[2.71828.....]

Day 3 though... We didn't even discuss what we should do in case of a massclaim, and we definitely should have. I was very annoyed that e didn't counterclaim but that's unfair because I was probably in a better position to do it, and didn't just because I don't like fakeclaiming

I was really hoping you would claim. But like you said, we should have discussed it more overnight.

[EgorK]

And we can't even use Joseph, since obviously whichever scum we don't lynch will kill him.

did anyone else take this as teproc hinting at whom his teammate should kill in case he got lynched? I immediately assumed teproc/hockey due to this

It is too obvious to needing to hint this

and it was hockey's first game

Still shooting 1-shot BP or your only lynch alternative seems rather counterproductive to anyone

[Teproc]

Day 3 though... We didn't even discuss what we should do in case of a massclaim, and we definitely should have. I was very annoyed that e didn't counterclaim but that's unfair because I was probably in a better position to do it, and didn't just because I don't like fakeclaiming

I was really hoping you would claim. But like you said, we should have discussed it more overnight.

Yeah, the more I think about it, it seems obvious to me that I should have claimed there.

[silverspawn]

puh... I feel pretty lost rereading this game, honestly. You were both feeling so genuine... at least until the end of day 2 where e hammered me.

this overall just feels like scum outplaying town

[Teproc]

I hammered you actually, and I did it for the towncred, so...

I know your argument is that scum!you would never be absent at deadline but
a) life happens, can happen to anyone
b) you're the most self-aware player on these boards

Also no lynch was better for scum here, given that it would have been lylo next anyway (assuming we didn't shoot Ghacob). I hammered solely because I would have 100% done it as town, even with a null read on you.

[gkrieg13]

EgorK, did you name an MVP for this game?

[EgorK]

EgorK, did you name an MVP for this game?

I had not, I'd consider this

[ashersky]

EgorK, did you name an MVP for this game?

I had not, I'd consider this

Still need one.