Could it be as simple and obvious as a Robz/Axxle mafia as the two big names that are pushing the heck out of my wagon?
Probably not. But it does seem weird that we're not really looking at that possibility.
This is harder than it looks. The more people are suspicious of me, the less I feel like contributing for fear of accidentally saying something else that makes me look totally scummy. I feel like every time I post, people jump on me. So I lurk, which also looks scummy, but in this not-very-active town there isn't as much pressure to contribute. That's a bad setup for town, and a good one for Mafia. This is almost certainly a town where mafia is hiding in the shadows, and I fully understand how we all reached that conclusion and why that makes me look very bad right now.
I don't know what to do about it. I could give you in-depth reasons for every suspicious looking post I've made, but I could do that just as easily if I were scum. Still, if people want that, I will happily do it.
If I actually try to scumhunt, I'm "deflecting" or "redirecting" and that makes me look like mafia.
The town needs to take a good look at the possible lynch candidates, and choose one everyone agrees is most likely to be mafia, or barring that, the one who's flip would be the most instructive. If that turns out to be me, I will not hold it against anyone - my play has been sub-par and I have not been the most active player. But I don't want that to happen. I think we can have a good chance of actually lynching scum tonight.
Even if Galz has given up his case against pops, I still find it compelling. Investigate him at night, sure, but that implies we have an actual cop in addition to our one-shot cop and that that person will be willing to expose himself. I don't think it's something we can count on.
I know my pops vote seemed rash and reactive, but I have since seen no reason to unvote him. If I have time today, I will look back and see if anyone seems more likely to be scum to me. I'm still getting bad vibes from Axxle2 and O.
Sorry for not being more helpful.
Haha, Jo, there are times I feel your pain. If I vote for you, I'm bussing. If I don't, I'm protecting.
Honestly, looking at my past Mafia play, I would make cases against Robz, but never actually vote for him. So if you do flip Mafia, it's pretty clear to me C.F. Has played exactly like that. "Jo is scum, Jo is scum, Jo is scum", but never actually voting for you, while trying to spread suspicion on others to get the pressure off you.
So at least a Jo = Mafia flip for me will be one less Mafia, with a second likely to follow.
Ha! I'm moving up in the world of Galz suspicion.
I have a suspicion that either of us (as town) are likely to see the other as potential Mafia, based on who voted for Axxle1. In my mind - if we lynch J, and he flips mafia, then I would suspect you heavily... I would even point to this above post as paving the grounds for a day 3 lynch of town. If I really thought that J was mafia, then I would have hammered him. I tend to agree with him on the frustration of the town ganging up on him for no reason - based on how I feel when someone points the FOS @ me, and then watching theory rage against the universe when being lynched, despite the fact that he's such a nice mild mannered dude IRL.
I tend to agree with your list from a few pages back... I'm not a big fan of Pops / Axxle either. I want to let you and J off the hook, but I'm really not understanding this Glooble vote.
You never explained, by the way, why Pops antagonistic play is "too obv to be Mafia", but Jo's antagonistic play is "obvscum".
Still, unless you have no faith in your own argument against Glooble, I fail to see why my voting for him should bother you?
The idea that Jo and Pops are playing similarly antagonistic games is ludicrous. Jo is a chameleon--he changes what he is doing/saying/thinking at the drop of the hat. He is waay to reactive. And confrontational. And directionless. And a liar about not caring whether he dies.
Pops is a consistent irritant.
Well, I had more faith in my Glooble argument before the twin-claim. It seems like you, and maybe another person or two, want to protect Jo. So either I have to trust me reading of Jo, or I trust you. (Unfortunately, I trust neither...)
It's scummy to agree with you? Odd reason, but ok. Besides, you agreed with me insofar as Jo was concerned. I may have voted for him (which I regret doing), but my reasons were pretty much that while I doubt he's scum, he's driving me up the wall. Wrong reasons to vote for someone, I know, hence my unvote.
I've turned not-troll in M5, not M4 bro.
Galzria. Galzria, Galzria, Galzria. You are frustrating me.
I SAID we should vote for Glooble. I laid out a big case against him and I voted for him. And you responded by saying I was the Serial Killer, and then later revealed that as a ploy, and as a result my argument against Glooble was totally buried.
I'm back toward leaning on thinking it's Jo, and here you are, getting on all the other bandwagons but the one I want.
It seems to me you are further muddying the waters at the end of a long and puzzling day. And I wonder if this is what you've been doing all along.
Galzria. Galzria, Galzria, Galzria. You are frustrating me.
I SAID we should vote for Glooble. I laid out a big case against him and I voted for him. And you responded by saying I was the Serial Killer, and then later revealed that as a ploy, and as a result my argument against Glooble was totally buried.
I'm back toward leaning on thinking it's Jo, and here you are, getting on all the other bandwagons but the one I want.
It seems to me you are further muddying the waters at the end of a long and puzzling day. And I wonder if this is what you've been doing all along.
Galz, if both spies sabotage, it is revealed that two sabotages were thrown. It hurts the spies a lot because it narrows down the suspected members to 2/3.
I thought votes were secret on mission success/failure?
You don't know who voted what, but you know how many of each are made.
Galz, if both spies sabotage, it is revealed that two sabotages were thrown. It hurts the spies a lot because it narrows down the suspected members to 2/3.
will post in a jiff. Is that a Jonah lynch? damn.
will post in a jiff. Is that a Jonah lynch? damn.
O is being... Uncannily helpful for D1.
Bad O. Stop it. Do I need to random vote based on timestamp?
Do I really need to add more chaos to this setup?
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?t=21496
I like post 21 in this. Perhaps we should start a Mafia game here were everyone has to write in prose. Wouldn't that be fun for Galzria's essays? Who knows... he could be the next Shakespeare!
What we need is for some lurkers to vote. Or we can just keep no lynching. As Robz, I have no problem with that.
I counter-accuse you, but obfuscate it with a convincing sounding argument, like a good Robz should.
Robz knows better than to accuse his accuser.
I accuse everyone but Galrobz?
I counter-accuse you, but obfuscate it with a convincing sounding argument, like a good Robz should.
