Galz/Cayvie scumbuddies.
Plus galz is tracker and we don't want to lynch a PR day 1, wait till at least D2 to do that.
Yep, you're right. I'm a tracker scum and Cayvie is my IC.
Galz/Cayvie scumbuddies.
Plus galz is tracker and we don't want to lynch a PR day 1, wait till at least D2 to do that.
"IF I can't make the town see things my way, they deserve to lose" - nice attitude.
A bit rich coming from the guy whose actions say, "If I can't make Town see things my way I shall fall on my sword".
No. Are you?
Vote: Yuma
I think you are.
Again, are you?
No. Are you?
Vote: Yuma
I think you are.
Care to share with the rest of the class sir?
I don't know why you think so. It is almost equivalent as a full claim d2 this way. And how come a full-claimed cop remain alive d3 without a doctor, and how come that cop decided to claim without finding a scum? If that happens I am all for lynching the cop. And if I cannot convince the town the town deserves to lose.So basically you are saying the town is willing to believe he is a stupid cop after all. So you are not only disagreeing with my second point but also the first.Let alone breadcrumbing for later claim, such obvious claim is already highly suspicious if not NKed.
Again, I disagree. Even if he's not NK'd, all it takes is a full-claim, however unbelievable YOU find it D3, and town must decide to lynch the claimed cop or lose.
And not just one town, but ALL THREE must decide to lynch the cop-claim
I believe that a cop claim out of the gates D3 lylo will be believed, no matter how poorly breadcrumbed it was earlier because your only other option is lynch the cop, which simply won't happen.
That is, ok, I read your post about manda. In my thoughts:
1. Are you a stupid cop? WTF...
2. Ok, if not, are you then a scum fakeclaiming? (you stopped here and say yes, but I will continue as below)
3. If you were, then you are just drawing attention onto yourself with no benefit (as nobody will really think you are a cop because it is stupid for a cop to claim)
4. So you are probably not a scum fakeclaiming. Then what are you doing? And then I will ask. It is so obvious it shouldn't hurt to ask right?
And that is in my eyes what happened in my instance. And I explained what I said is just that. And later I speak out of what I kept secret and why. But then you are attacking me without reason.
There was no reason to take it further. A cop does not have a reason to make that claim. Scum does. End of story. Are you stupid cop or scum? I figured scum. Now it's neither. Now the claim was just stupid.
I never attacked you without reason. Not once. My case was laid out prior to yours, and every response I made after was in response to false accusations you made against me.
Scum has no reason either as I outlined above. Can you not read that?
So basically you are saying the town is willing to believe he is a stupid cop after all. So you are not only disagreeing with my second point but also the first.Let alone breadcrumbing for later claim, such obvious claim is already highly suspicious if not NKed.
Again, I disagree. Even if he's not NK'd, all it takes is a full-claim, however unbelievable YOU find it D3, and town must decide to lynch the claimed cop or lose.
And not just one town, but ALL THREE must decide to lynch the cop-claim
That is, ok, I read your post about manda. In my thoughts:
1. Are you a stupid cop? WTF...
2. Ok, if not, are you then a scum fakeclaiming? (you stopped here and say yes, but I will continue as below)
3. If you were, then you are just drawing attention onto yourself with no benefit (as nobody will really think you are a cop because it is stupid for a cop to claim)
4. So you are probably not a scum fakeclaiming. Then what are you doing? And then I will ask. It is so obvious it shouldn't hurt to ask right?
And that is in my eyes what happened in my instance. And I explained what I said is just that. And later I speak out of what I kept secret and why. But then you are attacking me without reason.
Let alone breadcrumbing for later claim, such obvious claim is already highly suspicious if not NKed.
Again, I disagree. Even if he's not NK'd, all it takes is a full-claim, however unbelievable YOU find it D3, and town must decide to lynch the claimed cop or lose.
Let alone breadcrumbing for later claim, such obvious claim is already highly suspicious if not NKed.
If I look that I would say it is definitely not a claim as claiming such thing as a cop is just stupid. Why do a cop want to paint a target on his back?
A scum fakeclaim in such obvious manner is also stupid. Is the scum pretending to be a stupid cop?
13. yuma - slight scum. This is really more of a null read. But I'll put scummy because of the vote on pops. Of course, that's actually only because I find pops town. Of course, I'm being hypocritical with my ehunt read, but I don't really know what to expect from yuma.
I think this is the first time our mafia paths have crossed. I'll say up front I have something of a reputation for being quietly innocent and then turning up mafia after almost everyone trusts me. But I got lynched real quick for that in BMM1.
I was keeping on my pops vote until he unvoted himself. But now that he has I'll unvote
Argh... fixed the first sentence:
Also, it is self-contradictory in the sense that your theory contains both that my alleged softclaim is too obvious not to be called out and that in order to succeed I cannot be called out.
In short it says something like I behave too obviously due to some reason that requires me not to behave that obviously... which is self-contradictory.
Red Alert #1 explanation: I insisted it was a softclaim because it obviously was meant to be unless you were oblivious to what you said. I didn't believe you would be that oblivious. I was wrong. Next?Next: why did you not realize that the theory you therefore put forth is self-contradictory as I have repeatedly point out (which should then lead you to consider your presumption is wrong)? Or alternatively, why did you not just argue 2 days ago that I must have softclaimed. I denied. So I lied? (as this is essentially what you are saying right now.)
It's actually kind of sad Galz. Your recent play in a sense does give me a town vibe.
But your early play spoke too loud and too much for me. If you have backed off like you did right now two days earlier I wouldn't have a case against you.
Yes. Or let me ask you the reverse: how can a townie Galzria vote himself to L-1?
I am convinceable by logic. He can argue with me using logic.
Even if he can't, he can appeal to others. Let others read and judge. No need to accelerate by voting himself.
What he's doing here in my read is that he cannot wait for others to read through and judge. Because if he does, it will be clear that he is scum.
Tim, try again. I made my case in #815 (against PPS,, wrongly), corrected to you less than 3 hours later (not more than 24 as you claim) in #824, and then vote you before it's OMGUS as you claim I did, just 6 posts later in #830.
Oh, here's the votecount from #838, showing I voted for you first:Vote Count 2-5
shark_bait (2): Eevee, Young Nick
manda2014 (2): pingpongsam, timchen
timchen (1): Galzria
Not Voting {2}: manda2014, shark_bait
With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch
Lynch deadline: Monday, August 13, at 8:00 p.m. forum time (EDT)
If you're going to "summarize" your case, it helps if you don't flat out lie.
Well, if it's not a real post restriction, our rolecop will find out. Would be a strange thing to lie about when one of the first posts around was "Rolecop claim!"
And let me tell this Galz. All your accusation has confirmation bias. That is, indeed to some extent what eevee did can be viewed logically as what mafia would have done.
The problem is, what he did can also be easily explained as town. (If you want to say his insistence on frisk, do you want to lynch PPS for his insistence on you?)
My accusation on you is different. My 3 red alerts are things that I can explain logically when you are scum, but I cannot explain them logically when you are town.
I'd add that lurking implies reading but not posting which I am not guilty of in the least.Well, my point was rather a lack of greater involvement and little participation. I think Manda is a fine place for a vote, but I'm more convinced of Eevee. I'm not going to force Timchen to vote anywhere, so Manda wasn't going to get above 2, so there wasn't much point in being there. If she wanted to respond, she would've done so. Instead she came, commented, and left again.
