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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Day 1 in progress
« on: August 30, 2012, 01:35:54 pm »
Wow that was quick.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Day 1 in progress
« on: August 30, 2012, 12:08:02 pm »
Maybe not super important, but just to edit my above post a bit, looks like Frisk has been a little more active than I remembered. But Archetype hasn't posted in almost 2 days and good God where is Robz???
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia X - The Death of Donald X. Day 2
« on: August 30, 2012, 12:02:04 pm »
Unvote I don't know this new gentleman enough to be suspicious yet.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Day 1 in progress
« on: August 30, 2012, 11:57:09 am »Read through all the ftl posts and while nothing stuck out I can see why some might be uneasy about him. I get a completely neutral read and that troubles me for some reason.
Am I crazy for agreeing?
The deadline is creeping up, isn't it? Anyone else think Cayvie's successfully ducked attention? May I add a <b>Vote: Cayvie</b> even if it doesn't get us closer to a lynch? Will you all be disappointed I didn't jump on a wagon?
I don't think people will be disappointed, but it's a matter of getting 9 people to agree with you in less than 5 hours. But the standard rules apply even under pressure: if you strongly feel that someone is town, don't vote for them.
I think the reason you guys are getting such a neutral read is because his posts are all fluff, there's no real content, just the illusion of content. Trust me, all scum wants/needs to do day one is to just skate through and survive.
Man this reeeeeaaaally makes me want to vote ashersky, since he's been flying under the radar too, and then comes in 5 hours before the deadline to cast a meaningless vote on someone with no chance of being lynched to appear involved. (btw, where's Archetype and Frisk in all this?) I'm not so much disappointed as suspicious, so I'll save a FoS: ashersky for D2.
I'll then Vote: pingpongsam. I see the merit of a ftl wagon, but I think there's a lot of folks who fit the description Dsell puts forth, and pps has seemed more outrightly scummy to me.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XI: Find Yourself in the Courtyard Masquerade
« on: August 29, 2012, 06:19:30 pm »Good luck to anyone whom gets to Hydra with Morgrim that game
Does it still count as a self-hammer in that case?
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Dominion Articles / Re: All-around cards
« on: August 29, 2012, 06:13:00 pm »
Your user name would inspire me to say Fishing Village. Among $3's, it's probably the one I want most often over silver, unless I was playing just straight up BM.
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Dominion General Discussion / Re: X-with-a-bonus!
« on: August 29, 2012, 06:06:50 pm »What about Silver -> Gold
Gold doesn't boost your Feoda.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Day 1 in progress
« on: August 29, 2012, 02:39:02 pm »Why would you be the favored NK?
Because I've directly fingered 2 Mafia.
I agree with Dsell. Coming across a wagon on you and having this much certainty about two of the people voting for you seems scummy. That and the self-vote. And the whole, "I'll be busy until Tuesday" thing, I mean how do we even know he has a real life?? (ok, kidding about that one).
I'll also put out a FoS: Eevee for this nonsense:
I thought PPS had more votes than that on him, maybe I overreacted. To avoid getting pinned as his scumpartner in the unlikely event he actually is scum: Vote: PPS
I don't particularly believe in this lynch but this is the only way I don't look like his scumbuddy derailing the lynch for wrongful reasons so..
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Dominion General Discussion / Re: X-with-a-bonus!
« on: August 29, 2012, 02:09:07 pm »
Is Goons not both an improved Woodcutter and and improved Militia?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia X - The Death of Donald X. Day 2
« on: August 29, 2012, 01:19:55 pm »
Hey guys, sorry if I appear to have been lurking the last day or so. I'm not entirely sure how I feel about recent developments but here's my 2 cents:
I'm getting scummy vibes from Eevee and ashersky, and townie vibes from Geolib and Frisk. It makes no sense that they both would be scum, though, for what should be obvious reasons. I'd probably lean toward Eevee since ashersky's behavior seems a bit like how I imagine I might act if there was a wagon on me, being a first-game townie. Jorbles has been quiet since yesterday so I'll have to take a minute to go back and reread his most recent posts.
That being said, We Need to Talk About Morgrim.
I really hope this doesn't come off as scummy for trying to derail the current inertia of the discussion. I'm not coming to anyone's rescue here by changing the subject. As many have said, we have lots of time to discuss all issues, and this is one I want to discuss before the day is out.
But other than some casual remarks about how Morgrim should maybe say something constructive, no one is putting any real pressure on him, and I think there's a decent chance that he and one other person are all too happy to be talking about other things (that is, for the rest of us to be talking. He's not talking about anything).
Morgrim is essentially lurking hard on D2, and I find this seriously suspect. I'm really wishing we had lynched him on D1, since even if he flipped town, I'd rather have Robz here by a long shot (though based on my miserable D1 scumhunting, I'd probably still be tunneling Robz on D2 if he were here). Especially since Morgrim hasn't said enough to give off any hard scum tells or anything, so he would probably have been a better D1 lynch than a D2 lynch.
If Morgrim is town, he can start playing like it. But until then, Vote: Morgrim.
I'm getting scummy vibes from Eevee and ashersky, and townie vibes from Geolib and Frisk. It makes no sense that they both would be scum, though, for what should be obvious reasons. I'd probably lean toward Eevee since ashersky's behavior seems a bit like how I imagine I might act if there was a wagon on me, being a first-game townie. Jorbles has been quiet since yesterday so I'll have to take a minute to go back and reread his most recent posts.
That being said, We Need to Talk About Morgrim.
I really hope this doesn't come off as scummy for trying to derail the current inertia of the discussion. I'm not coming to anyone's rescue here by changing the subject. As many have said, we have lots of time to discuss all issues, and this is one I want to discuss before the day is out.
But other than some casual remarks about how Morgrim should maybe say something constructive, no one is putting any real pressure on him, and I think there's a decent chance that he and one other person are all too happy to be talking about other things (that is, for the rest of us to be talking. He's not talking about anything).
Morgrim is essentially lurking hard on D2, and I find this seriously suspect. I'm really wishing we had lynched him on D1, since even if he flipped town, I'd rather have Robz here by a long shot (though based on my miserable D1 scumhunting, I'd probably still be tunneling Robz on D2 if he were here). Especially since Morgrim hasn't said enough to give off any hard scum tells or anything, so he would probably have been a better D1 lynch than a D2 lynch.
If Morgrim is town, he can start playing like it. But until then, Vote: Morgrim.
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Dominion: Dark Ages Previews / Re: Opening Estate
« on: August 29, 2012, 02:27:28 am »
Though Island is worse with Shelters anyway.
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Dominion: Dark Ages Previews / Re: Opening Estate
« on: August 29, 2012, 02:25:44 am »
Only reason not to do that that I can think of is if there's a victory card you want earlyish anyway and might hope to buy after the reshuffle with Hovel in hand (Tunnel, Island, eg)
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia X - The Death of Donald X. Night 1
« on: August 29, 2012, 01:52:09 am »You two seem like a team to me, at least on this. Your posts have set each other up nicely.
I'm a bit too sleepy to write a long post tonight, but a scum team being the first two on a wagon seems like terrible scum strategy to me (WIFOM!).
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XI: Find Yourself in the Courtyard Masquerade
« on: August 28, 2012, 09:14:33 pm »
I'll join. I've yet to finish a game, but I'm having a lot of fun with these.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Day 1 in progress
« on: August 28, 2012, 07:24:24 pm »I apologize for lurking
School's started so I've been booking
That doesn't even rhyme!
Vote: Archetype
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Sign ups CLOSED
« on: August 28, 2012, 06:59:16 pm »Confirmed.
I'll be a slow start, big project underway at work and traveling 2,000 miles on way this weekend to deliver it so I will be a ghost until next Tuesday or so but I will be keeping up on the required reading portion of the class.
Yeah, he did warn of being a bit absent, but for his sake he'll probably want to come back and defend himself soon.
You know who else has to speak in words cut out from other sources? Serial killers.Isn't it usually kidnappers who do that?
You're probably right. But I'm sure there's nontrivial overlap.
And cayvie, now that the jig is up on your role, I expect a lot more "diddly"s.
I apologize for lurking
School's started so I've been booking
I think this PPS bandwagoning should be done
Bandwagon's are fun to jump on, but not this one
I don't think PPS is acting scummy
He's just been gone, which is crummy
I am loving these poems. But I never know if Archetype is actually saying what he believes or just what's easiest to rhyme about.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia X - The Death of Donald X. Day 1 Pm for quick topic link
« on: August 28, 2012, 05:21:52 pm »Frisk, if this doesn't convince you I can't really offer anything else.... I am starting to think we're running out of things to talk about. I unlike some of the other potential hammers I do think Robz is our best bet at scum. As Geolib obliquely suggests, I will say it: "I think it's time for the hammer, what thinks the group?"
I will hammer on a majority, unless someone beats me to it/really wants to do it themselves.
I was willing to hammer, but I wanted to delay for the vote of the majority of players for two reasons. The first is that I wanted to be sure that most people thought discussion wouldn't help us much anymore. I think most people did, but I wanted to be sure. The second is that I thought we might be able to analyze people's votes here if they were unusual. Only, Geolib, O and my own implied vote ended up happening though so we didn't end up getting much info, and none of us voted surprisingly.
This doesn't make much sense to me. Lynching already happens by majority vote. What's the point in waiting for a meta-vote on whether someone should hammer? Why would the breakdown of that discussion differ at all from the actual vote?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Day 1 in progress
« on: August 28, 2012, 11:31:23 am »
You know who else has to speak in words cut out from other sources? Serial killers.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Day 1 in progress
« on: August 27, 2012, 10:01:13 pm »I'm from the Wizard of Oz. And before anyone asks, no I'm not the gal on isotropics witch avatar.
Pokemon. And before anyone asks, no I'm not Eevee.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Day 1 in progress
« on: August 27, 2012, 09:25:36 pm »Forcing me to do this? really? ok...
I'm from Harry Potter. I give you one guesses as to who I am.
Aunt Marge?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Day 1 in progress
« on: August 27, 2012, 01:15:07 pm »Vote: Morgrim7YESSS!!!! COME ON!!!!
Surely you jest, Morgrim.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia X - The Death of Donald X. Night 1
« on: August 27, 2012, 12:49:28 pm »Thinking about who would be scared of experienced players seems like a dead end though.
Why is this a dead end? Should be obvious, right? Me, you, ashersky, geolib.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia X - The Death of Donald X. Night 1
« on: August 27, 2012, 03:00:06 am »
I'll save you the trouble, Eevee. That pretty much exactly describes my voting pattern. O was pushing for a Robz lynch, and I followed right after him, echoing his arguments. I guess this would make me seem scummy to you. Here's my vote on Robz, at a point when O was the only vote so far:
Your theory is basically that the second person (i.e. me) on a misguided wagon begun by a townie (i.e. O) is potential scum.
Your theory would be useless then if O was not confirmed town, so I find it a little convenient for you that he was NKed last night.
Talk is good, but eventually we do have to put some votes in. Right now I feel comfortable voting and I Vote: Robz again (votes => pressure => good, right Eevee?).
O has listed some good reasons. A few more:
Robz basically behaved almost exactly as Morgrim did with his "the looks on your faces" comment. Not a self-vote exactly, but still. Robz demanded a policy lynch on Morgrim for similar behavior.
He suggested lynching based on experience. I just have a hard time imagining a townie really supporting this idea.
Both his accusations and defensive statements seem way over the top to me. More subjective, sure, but still. I'm just getting a real scummy vibe.
Pile the votes on or don't, either way I just want to get some serious discussion going on this. Otherwise we'll be in the exact same place at the deadline.
Your theory is basically that the second person (i.e. me) on a misguided wagon begun by a townie (i.e. O) is potential scum.
Your theory would be useless then if O was not confirmed town, so I find it a little convenient for you that he was NKed last night.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia X - The Death of Donald X. Night 1
« on: August 26, 2012, 11:57:20 pm »
Ooooookay, so what do we have here? We accidentally (well, accidentally for most of us) lynched a townie (sorry, Robz!), and lost another one last night. Both vanillas, so no power roles gone, but there may only be like one of those anyway. And strangely enough, the townie killed last night was the one pushing hardest for Robz's lynch, so my plan of suspecting O at the beginning of Day 2 is out.
Questions for today:
--Who looks good, who looks bad?
Well, the two people with the strongest convictions so far are dead, so it's maybe a little tricky to get reads. I probably look bad after pushing for the Robz hammer. I really thought he had a decent chance of being scum, but obviously I was wrong. Ashersky had some suspicion on him toward the end, and was actually the one to hammer, so I'd think he looks bad as well. As a newbie himself, if he was mafia, Eevee's theory of the mafia killing off the more experienced players may hold water.
Geolib and Eevee were explicit about not wanting to hammer Robz at the end, (Geolib more so, but Eevee decided to vote ashersky when he could have hammered). Jorbles didn't vote but expressed willingness to hammer. Not sure quite how to interpret these actions. Mafia could have laid back and argued against a hammer, confident that someone else would do the dirty work. Or maybe they just had way better reads on Robz than I did.
Morgrim has been way quiet lately which seems pretty scummy to me. CF has been relatively quiet too, so I'd really like some analysis from him at some point.
-Any info from power roles?
I'm just not sure how this works because I'm new. Power roles may have helpful info, but is it too early to claim?
-Is there mod WIFOM?
Specifically, any connection between the Morgrim prod and the night action deadline extension? The deadline could have been extended because Morgrim has a night action and hadn't been heard from yet, or because the mods didn't want us to think Morgrim didn't have a night action if the deadline wasn't extended. Or I'm reading too much into this and it's not a helpful train of thought.
Thoughts?
Questions for today:
--Who looks good, who looks bad?
Well, the two people with the strongest convictions so far are dead, so it's maybe a little tricky to get reads. I probably look bad after pushing for the Robz hammer. I really thought he had a decent chance of being scum, but obviously I was wrong. Ashersky had some suspicion on him toward the end, and was actually the one to hammer, so I'd think he looks bad as well. As a newbie himself, if he was mafia, Eevee's theory of the mafia killing off the more experienced players may hold water.
Geolib and Eevee were explicit about not wanting to hammer Robz at the end, (Geolib more so, but Eevee decided to vote ashersky when he could have hammered). Jorbles didn't vote but expressed willingness to hammer. Not sure quite how to interpret these actions. Mafia could have laid back and argued against a hammer, confident that someone else would do the dirty work. Or maybe they just had way better reads on Robz than I did.
Morgrim has been way quiet lately which seems pretty scummy to me. CF has been relatively quiet too, so I'd really like some analysis from him at some point.
-Any info from power roles?
I'm just not sure how this works because I'm new. Power roles may have helpful info, but is it too early to claim?
-Is there mod WIFOM?
Specifically, any connection between the Morgrim prod and the night action deadline extension? The deadline could have been extended because Morgrim has a night action and hadn't been heard from yet, or because the mods didn't want us to think Morgrim didn't have a night action if the deadline wasn't extended. Or I'm reading too much into this and it's not a helpful train of thought.
Thoughts?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Day 1 in progress
« on: August 26, 2012, 09:41:48 pm »
Thanks for clarifying. Mine is cartoon.