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Well - i suppose if he is the last scum he won't intentionally hammer himself to prevent discussion.  I'd still like everyone to weigh in before we just slam his ass.
Now we are this sure?


And oh joth, you are saying me doing the best I can to not get lynched as town is anti-town now?

Frisk, why did you investigate me at all?

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Reason #1: I asked the mod what would happen if my investigation was redirected - as there isn't a mafiascum consensus on this.  Ie: I investigate Eevee - he redirects to Joth.  Will I get a PM that says something like "Eevee ate an ice cream cone" or "Joth ate an ice cream cone"?  Mod told me he wouldn't answer.

Reason #2: You seem anxious for me to announce what I learned.  That feels like a giddy godfather to me who wants to make maximum use out of his investigation immunity.

Reason #3: Mod specifically warned me that there may be non deck players who investigate as deck

Reason #4: There were only 4 people who didn't vote to lynch Insomniac (before we started playing follow the cop).  You, Volt, Me, RobZ, Insomniac.  I already nabbed Volt.  Insomniac was scum.  I know that I'm not.  That leaves you and RobZ.

I can validate RobZ if I choose to.  The only way I can be sure of your alignment is to lynch you - and good news - we can afford to do it.
Okay, your reasons are sound at least. This makes Frisk look much more reasonable again.

#1
I told you the way I was told it works already on day 2 (should I go back to find the quote or do you believe me here?). Do you think I of all people would be smart enough to start the lie then to gain credit a week later? And which seems more intuitive? I redirect the action -> the action goes elsewhere because of me.

#2 I didnt know what you learned. I was anxious to not die today, apparently for a reason. Why couldnt that just be an impatient townie?

#3 This is true, and I understand why this makes you suspect me. We already got one "partially deck" though?

#4 No explanation for this, I dont even remember what day it was.

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Vote: Eevee

That's L-1. Any more discussion needed before the hammer?

PPE: I don't think Frisk will be entirely clear if you flip town.
Why are you in a hurry? Do you think no new info can be gathered?
I mean maybe someone will actually read my posts and talk some sense to you.

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How do you expect me to react to this ridiculousness?

I've been investigated. I confirmed have a role that is useless for scum, relatively strong for town (in the end game). I claimed it early which was a stupid thing to do as town, but beyond idiotic if I was scum. I've been super open about my night actions. Somehow the cop that cleared me puts no weight into the investigation he made suddenly.

Frisk, why did you investigate me if you are going to lynch me anyways? Waste much?

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Eevee, being able to redirect attacks is weak for town. But it's strong for mafia.

Also, that was a LOT of squirming.
We dont have any serial killers it seems, and if I'm supposedly investigation immune why would it matter? Does secret chamber sound like a mafia role to you?

And f yeah I dont like this. Yet to live until the end in any game yet, I really thought this was going to be my day. And I'd be fine dying if I thought it would help the town but my role gets strong when it gets to endgame, and I fear my flip will not be informational at all since Frisk is orchestrating the lynch. No chance he is scum, right?

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And I think you are overestimating how good my role actually is. Sure, I cant get lynched but its considerably worse than your regular bulletproof, because the kills doesnt just disappear, its usually redirected to another townie. If I could "just hit mafia", we could as well lynch them during the day right? When I received this, I honestly thought "oh so i'm redirecting the kills to someone whose role is stronger than mine, blows" which is obviously an exaggeration but so is calling me bulletproof because the kills still happen, I'm just not the target.

And how on earth do you figure this role to read town when investigated?

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I'm almost starting to suspect Frisk because I feel lynching me is so ridiculous given how huge of an asset I would be to town if you let me live (and how little my role actually does as scum, it's basicly a no-role). I've even repeatedly offered to give my VP to someone in need if someone would just figute out a way I can do that!

Jot helped us catch a lot of scum, and being eager to lynch me fits his general behavior recently so I dont suspect him nearly as much. Other than that, no real reads except I dont think smart town-aligned players should find me scummy.

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Not good guys!

Lekkit suspecting I'm a NB... well, I did claim SC day 2.

Frisk, what are the additional reasons? Obviously dont tell them if revealing is very anti-town somehow, but I dont see how.

This is more than a little frustrating because I've been investigated and everything, I so wished for once to live until the end and see my faction win but got to reg to more games it seems then.

13709
First of all, I agree 100% with what Robz said about hedging.

That being said, Robz is good enough player to say all that when he is mafia. I mean, it wasn't really about his alignment, he was just explaining his behavior. I think the case is good, and I am ready to vote for Robz. However, I still think Insomniac is a good target too (especially with the lurking), so I'm holding off voting just in case my preferred wagon still picks off. I'll be online for the next 10 hours, and if Robz starts getting votes, I will most likely jump on board too.

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@eevee - is your redirection mandatory?  If I wanted to give you some points tonight, coud we make that happen?


You didn't answer in time and someone shut down voting early last day
Answer what?

I think that answered that somewhere, but maybe not. Anyways, it is not mandatory as you now know.  :) It turned out well anyways because I was smart for once and realized what is what.

As far as I can tell - you didn't say a single word on Day 8.
Fair enough. I did mention it earlier for sure when I (being the smart guy I am) claimed my role, but ok.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia IX: Major Arcana Mafia
« on: August 21, 2012, 11:10:24 am »
Sorry, meant to write just OVER 51 hours.  (Just under 52 hours.)
Hopefully that won't make a difference.  :)

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@eevee - is your redirection mandatory?  If I wanted to give you some points tonight, coud we make that happen?


You didn't answer in time and someone shut down voting early last day
Answer what?

I think that answered that somewhere, but maybe not. Anyways, it is not mandatory as you now know.  :) It turned out well anyways because I was smart for once and realized what is what.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia IX: Major Arcana Mafia
« on: August 21, 2012, 11:02:37 am »
Eevee:  Eevee was the first one to suggest lynching someone for being in the "wrong" suit even though this is easily manipulated, that felt like it was bound to give us a town-lynch.  Another person who's only made one vote.  I don't like people who hone in on one person and keep their vote there forever, that feels like very scum-fident (confident) voting.  Also, looking through his posts, I am floored by the lack of content.  Check it out for yourself!
I dont remember saying "we should lynch someone from the wrong suit", I just pointed out the odds of each of the suits having scum in them. IIRC I actually did it to point out it's a bad idea, but I'm not sure about that.
Wands and pentacles have 1 scum more than the cups and swords (4/14 and 5/14). Should we perhaps lynch a wand or a pentacle day1 then?
It's a shame you don't remember things Eevee, for you did the opposite of pointing out it's a bad idea, and I don't like seeing players contradict themselves without consequences.

Is lurking the major reason for Insomniac's wagon now?  Because although he's been away a lot, he usually returns with good content.  This is the opposite case with Eevee, who has disappeared in the past and returned with the fluffiest of fluff.  And now this lie Eevee's put out there...

Does anyone else get this feeling from Eevee?

If I was scum, I would be more careful.

But you are half right! This has happened in an earlier game too, and I don't know if it's the language barrier or what, but when I say:
Wands and pentacles have 1 scum more than the cups and swords (4/14 and 5/14). Should we perhaps lynch a wand or a pentacle day1 then?
, I do not mean "I think we should do this!", I mean to ask others opinions on an idea I just had. If I say "timchen giving your vote to Galzria to use is anti-town and ridiculous", I'm stating I think that is the case. When it ends with a question mark, in my case it is an actual question "what do others think?".

Oh and even if I was suggesting we lynch like that if we wound up claiming (I'm glad we didn't), I think that would be an excellent example of bad town play rather than scum play. In general, proposing something that is obviously scummy is not a mafia tell imo, and we lynch "bad" townies (ones who made a mistake) way too often here.

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Eevee - wants me to announce what the scrying pool learned about him.  I was specifically warned that some non-deck players may investigate as deck.  Has the scummiest voting history of those remaining
First of all, you really should have told me you were going to investigate me (ask me not to redirect). Luckily I realized that's what it was, I suppose you would be proposing an Eevee lynch now if redirected it somewhere.

Second of all, you investigate me and get town, yet that doesn't clear me one bit? How ridiculous of a scum role would this be if I also investigated clean..

What should I do to prove my alignment? No one can think of a way for me to lose VP in favor of someone (yuma or CF for example)? I have plenty of spare, I can't really lose any at night.

I'm not opposed to lynching Lekkit one bit, but we have plenty of time.

You didn't answer in time and someone shut down voting early last day
Answer what?

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I wouldn't even put it past Morgrim to be scum after all this.. but I think you are all being too hasty.

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Eevee - wants me to announce what the scrying pool learned about him.  I was specifically warned that some non-deck players may investigate as deck.  Has the scummiest voting history of those remaining
First of all, you really should have told me you were going to investigate me (ask me not to redirect). Luckily I realized that's what it was, I suppose you would be proposing an Eevee lynch now if redirected it somewhere.

Second of all, you investigate me and get town, yet that doesn't clear me one bit? How ridiculous of a scum role would this be if I also investigated clean..

What should I do to prove my alignment? No one can think of a way for me to lose VP in favor of someone (yuma or CF for example)? I have plenty of spare, I can't really lose any at night.

I'm not opposed to lynching Lekkit one bit, but we have plenty of time.

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Volt was indeed an joat-esque pawn in Ozle's murder mystery, but... That's such a weird mistake to make.

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That's a pretty thought through case.

Vote: Robz

[And thought through looks really weird when written. :S]
You don't think it sounds weird when you say it out loud?


.. ha, I just caused you all to try.

Anyways, that is indeed a rather strong case. I won't vote before I hear Robz's rebuttal though.

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Dominion: Dark Ages Previews / Re: The Bold Predictions Thread
« on: August 20, 2012, 11:51:49 pm »
So is scout.

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I dont even have to Unvote apparently :)

Robz having three RVS-esque votes him seems excessive/not very fair. Still 6 days to the deadline, and O hasnt even found his way here yet! No new votes on him before we actually decide we really want to lynch him, please. I say this as the guy who started the wagon!

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Ok. So it's still just ctrl+F? The problem is when people use the name in their posts. Oh well. Thanks.
Thats why you use the isotropic name. No one uses that one. (I now see it is the same for you for example, that is unfortunate. I don't think anyone has presented a better way yet.)

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Frisk I don't think you should reveal
Maybe you could say what you learned of me though? In case you die you know. Unless it's too revealing, your call really.

are you talking to me or frisk here?
Frisk. Or rather the scrying pool, but you know.

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Just to get your attention, it's not a vote unless it's in the correct form (Vote: Eevee for example).

Viewing the thread in print mode and searching for the isotropic nickname of the desired person will show you all the posts he has made in this thread.

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Hi everyone...

I am sorry I am not in a state that I can participate the game more fully... is going to move from the east coast to west coast in less than a week.

Also I have learned it the hard way that my own pro-activity as town will probably harm the town more than benefit-- so this time I won't push things as hard.

Look, you can't just completely resign yourself from scumhunting because you were stupid enough to say "I'm 100% sure Galzria is scum" in another game where he wasn't. Back on that horse mate, or I'm calling scum. I was this close to voting you already in this post.

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Can someone tally up the cards in graveyard to figure out who was who at time of death since mod scum isn't giving us card names on flip?

What?  I gave role names on death.  Did I miss it in a post?  Point it out to me and I will fix it.

Day 9 start:

http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=3385.msg90605#msg90605

Axxle2 was.... ?

It says right in the poem, and it shows up in the Trash too.
Still mad because no one reads your poems? (Just kidding I do.)

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