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oh

i suppose if you think i might be lying, then nolynch is better

vote nolynch
Since jot is going with the "cayvie is scum not me!!!" defence, it's important to have robz survive the night. Robz is also the only guy jot is yet to go after as the last scum.

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Trying to lynch jot mostly to clear cayvie, but maybe it doesn't matter and there might be some nasty surprises so better to Vote: Nolynch I guess.

Because.. couldn't jot have something where voting for him gives him something? Maybe it's better to not risk it?

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Wooooooo! Yeah, nolynch today and kill jot tomorrow seems to be it!

At least I should live, because I can just redirect everything. So we need either cayvie or Robz to survive the night to take this down. Hopefully Jot doesnt draw something insane from the black market!

Should we try to lynch jot, just in case?


And woah I'm glad you remembered that, if jot got me to suicide before the lynch it would have been very bad!

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia X - The Death of Donald X. Night 1
« on: August 27, 2012, 01:40:51 pm »
I did say "not necessarily bad at all", which in my english implies I thought it was an unexpected but pretty smart kill.

Again, why the FoS? For not mentioning it looks a lot like the timchen kill in MVII?

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I gained a graberobber. Hoping that the lighthouse defense thematically still gives me immunity and I get to revive someone from the dead.

.. but as I've said earlier, expand has been just as good for nigmoney as it is on dominion this far..

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia X - The Death of Donald X. Night 1
« on: August 27, 2012, 12:52:22 pm »
Thinking about who would be scared of experienced players seems like a dead end though.

Why is this a dead end? Should be obvious, right? Me, you, ashersky, geolib.
Experienced players could be afraid of other experienced players just as easily.

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Unvote, great! Not getting a town vibe from Robz but I think I just need to trust him. New vote on who suicides now that we jot cant, or is it just automatically me? Voting cayvie to do it if we have a vote again.

And proceeding with the plan only after everyone has said everything they have in their mind, obviously.

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For me, ehunt vs insomniac was heart vs brain. You caught me at a very vulnerable time (wounds from bmmm and VII still hurting)  and I was easily convinced Ins being the real doctor was the logical scenario. If i was Insomniacs team, would I have behaved the way I did?
But alas, this time I should have listened to my heart. Sorry ehunt.

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cayvie, how does the mountebank exactly work again?

Btw, while jot wasn't lying, his actions are still congruent with a serial killer role.

Vote: Eevee

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Jot, could you unvote so I could test if I lose points by voting myself?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia X - The Death of Donald X. Night 1
« on: August 27, 2012, 12:27:23 pm »
Cop should not claim early in the day, but rathwr try to talk the town into the correct lynch without claiming and then claim if that doesn't work.

Frisk, what did you FoS me for? What about that quote?

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How convenient, especially from someone who said he'd obviously suicide if the vote so decided..

I will do it though, just hoping he doesn't have something weird like Lekkit's hated..

@ jot
Could you prove that by voting me?

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I don't like this development of VT's being way overconfident in their scum reads (assuming you even are one). You are basically saying "lynch robz, and if he's town lynch me!". I don't know if this bugs anyone else but 95% is just too much! Personally I'm like 95% sure our mod is not being secretly bastardly and having us play a game without mafia or something.. I dont remember town Ins being like this in bmmm but there was never any pressure on him either so it's not quite the same.

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i'm most concerned about these X's.

i killed one of the people with an X, but i don't know why the other one died. did someone copy my ability?
interesting. i'm guessing that someone did, but is scum and wont come out. or that you are scum actually, but what scum faction has two nightkills!?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia X - The Death of Donald X. Night 1
« on: August 27, 2012, 03:22:08 am »
Uuh less of a scum read on ashersky now actually, for two reasons.

1) I wasn't nightkilled despite my case against him (mafia might just want me around thoughn given my performances in VII and murder mystery..)
[self-centered] 2) O was killed, and I repeatedly said he seemed towny to me. Maybe mafia wanted to make me feel good about my reads because I'm wrong about ashersky? [/self-centered]

I don't remember what others thought of O (RIP mate) yesterday? Was he maybe killed for appearing too towny despite his case against Robz?


Oh it's getting loltastic how much I post here. Sorry for being borderline spammy!

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia X - The Death of Donald X. Night 1
« on: August 27, 2012, 03:14:33 am »
Thanks for digging that up. So Robz was your first serious vote and you stayed on him all day? I'm also interested in seeing how you reacted to the wagon at its various points and in situations where you chose not to unvote when more and more people joined. Oh and I didn't mean to imply it would be a traditional scum tell or anything, just thinking (out loud) where I'd expect the scum to be / want to be.

Theory question: what other ways are there for analyzing this new information? I've briefly touched listening to dead townies, analyzing voting positions and analyzing who has incentive to kill who now, which I feel are all good topics. Personally I think voting positions are the most important thing, but given how I didn't vote for either townies yesterday I guess that's what I would say as scum.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia X - The Death of Donald X. Night 1
« on: August 27, 2012, 02:13:59 am »
Hmm, the only guys off the wagon were myself, Jorbles and Geolib. Seeing their names makes me think maybe both scum were on the wagon after all - my very unreliable gut is feeling pretty good about Geo and relatively good about Jorbles. I will be rereading where Cuzz jumped on the wagon and his general voting positions yesterday, like I said I find joining a townie who is dead wrong about someone early is where I wouöd expect scum would want to be.

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In the unlikely event that I'm NKed and you see Robz/O town: Ignore Robz inane reads.
O's last words. So even after he knew Robz was town, he didn't think Morgrim was mafia.

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100% agree on everything cayvie said there.

Maybe Galz somehow king's courted himself? "My cult is so big it makes powerful" sort of a thing. Because why anyone else would do it is just beyond me.

Cayvie, you then agree it's likely we only have one scum remaining?

yes, and i'm pretty sure it's not a Curse, but a SK-type alignment.
how excitingly it all points to jot then!

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia X - The Death of Donald X. Night 1
« on: August 27, 2012, 01:25:15 am »
@GeoLib

Haha, obviously no one is going to get lynched before tomorrow. I don't really know how to address your case since.. yeah, those quotes are from me? I believe I was pretty spot on with Robz and in the end finally realized it was not a smart lynch, but it was too late. I stand by everything I said about him yesterday though Actually, props to you for suspecting me because I actually agree my yesterday's end game behavior could easily be interpreted as scummy. Hopefully you'll remember my earlier stuff too and that will clear me some!

What do we think, how many scum on the wagon? I think there must have been some, it picked up relatively quickly and in my experience wagons forming on a strong case made by a misguided townie are exactly the kind of wagons that attract scum early on and midway. Now, if there already was one mafia on the wagon, I'm not sure if his scumbuddy would have joined late / hammered, because it very much looked like that was going to happen eventually anyways and scum prefers to get the lynch through without both voting. So, my guess would be that a) they both got on early or b) one of them got on early and the other did not at all. I don't even remember who jumped on it and when, got to reread later, heading home now so no time!

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia X - The Death of Donald X. Night 1
« on: August 27, 2012, 01:17:35 am »
Strangling is usually attributed to strongmans, but since this is a closed (open? which is it? anyways the one where we know what we are up against) it doesn't matter at all, just flavor.

I would not try to WIFOM our mod for two reasons. 1) it's not in the spirit of the game 2) it's not like yuma didn't realize people would think this, so i'ts indeed just a wifom i think would in the end be useless. Morgrim has claimed VT, I suggest that's all we base our decisions on.

It's interesting I survived the night. Opinions people, do you think a mafia team with ashersky would have killed me or not?

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Wow, 95%?

I'm not timchen. I won't say I'm sure. But he's my only super scum read right now
95% is pretty timchen without any power role action to back it up. Which you might have, no need to claim just wanted to hear if the 95% was an exaggeration or not.

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Wow, 95%?

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Possession = seriously overrated, without just the right engine. It essentially costs as much as a province!
It is known.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia X - The Death of Donald X. Night 1
« on: August 26, 2012, 11:32:12 pm »
Why did scum choose O? He only suspected Robz (right?), so I can't think who this makes look scummy. It's interesting (and not necessarily bad at all) scum chose to serve us any WIFOM but went for O instead. Probably they feared he'd catch them still, despite his bad Robz read. They seemsto be going for the mafia VII route where they kill of the experienced guys first, hopefully this town can do better than that town did!

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