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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)

« on: January 25, 2019, 12:11:16 pm »

Almost forgot: because Uncleeurope asked:

Vote Count 1.MiX

arishipshape (3): silverspawn, raerae, EFHW
MiX (4): Debatepro, shraeye, faust, arishipshape
Dylan (2): DatSwan, MiX
Silverspawn (2): Joseph, LaLight
faust (1): Silverspawn

Not voting (1): Dylan32

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Day 1 ends February 01, 2019, 10:00:00 pm

Looks like I was wrong, I was at L-2, thanks for the heads up Uncle!

Feel free to point out anything wrong with this

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)

« on: January 25, 2019, 12:06:49 pm »

I wonder if answering everything instantly is good or not...

I just said...

Asking and answering a question to which everyone knows the answer to is very scummy in my book.

...less than a minute later you did it again. I'd argue that this this the most scummiest statement i have ever read in all the mafia games i've ever played.

If I did it again, it might be part of my town meta; you know, what you think is scummy isn't an universal truth.

I also don't know the answer: I think it's good (which is why I'm doing it) but it seems to generate a lot of scumreads...

Vote: MiX

Why? I'll give Joseph, faust, and UncleEurope each 1 guess.

I'm not interested in guessing, why don't you clue us all in?

Good thing I didn't ask you to guess

Why did you ask those 3 specific people? One's already voting for me anyway...

Anyway, I think your reasoning is clear, vote: dylan32, someone else needs a push to get in this game. DatSwan's also quiet, but bigger wagons are better.

PPE 3

I take back what is said above in this post, throwing shade on 7 other players when your getting some votes for being scummy is in fact most scummiest thin i have ever read in all the mafia games I've ever played.

What did you take back? It's ambiguous.

How am I throwing shade on 7 players?

Oh "the most scummiest thing I have ever read in all of the mafia games I've ever played" is just this one...funny. Was that intentional?

But votes don't mean anything if there isn't discussion behind them.  We can push four people to L-1 but if it's just a bunch of people sheeping crappy cases that doesn't tell us anything.

It was RVS, where pushing wagons is better than not, in my opinion anyway.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)

« on: January 25, 2019, 11:50:34 am »

To the general game, I think starting a bandwagon on 1 person is better than starting 3. Therefore, I shall change my vote to vote: MiX. Especially because of that random buddying. If at any point I accidentally make an anti town vote, please explain to me why it was bad immediately, as I am still a noob.

I disagree that starting a wagon on one is better than having many wagons.  It makes it far to easy for scum to push for a quick lynch and for town to get pigeon-holed on a single person.  I like a day one with lots of wagons and lots of interactions because it actual gives us something to look at in future days.

Touche. I hereby retract my previous statement.

While multiple wagons are better than one, pushing one wagon early is better than pushing several, for wagons with 2- votes are almost meaningless, at least from my point of view.

Unvote

Request vote count

Is that how that’s done?

This MiX wagon has been gaining a lot of traction, I just wanna make sure we aren’t at L-1 or something.

Don't worry, feel free to push my mislynch, I had 4 votes before the Unvote, I've been tracking them 

Why did you ask those 3 specific people? One's already voting for me anyway...

Anyway, I think your reasoning is clear, vote: dylan32, someone else needs a push to get in this game. DatSwan's also quiet, but bigger wagons are better.

PPE 3

Bigger wagons are better than what?  Smaller wagons?  Many wagons?  Wooden wagons?

Than me voting for Datswan. I thought that was clear, I apologize.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)

« on: January 25, 2019, 11:44:56 am »

Vote: MiX

Why? I'll give Joseph, faust, and UncleEurope each 1 guess.

I'm not interested in guessing, why don't you clue us all in?

Good thing I didn't ask you to guess

Why did you ask those 3 specific people? One's already voting for me anyway...

Anyway, I think your reasoning is clear, vote: dylan32, someone else needs a push to get in this game. DatSwan's also quiet, but bigger wagons are better.

PPE 3

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)

« on: January 25, 2019, 11:19:28 am »

I wonder if answering everything instantly is good or not...

Would it be scummy if I ask what the scumslip is? All I can see is him saying there are only 2 new players, when there are clearly 3...I don't think this implies anything other than null.

4 new players, right? uncle, debate, mix and ari.

MiX, it seems like you have played elsewhere? We've heard from ari. Uncle and Debate, what are your experience levels?

I don't count uncle, because he's played other games in f.ds

I've played mafia in Tabletop Simulator: for those who don't know, it's essencially like chat mafia, days are minutes and games end in half an hour because lobbies are 10 players max.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)

« on: January 25, 2019, 11:13:00 am »

Wait, what happened? I didn't vote! The day wasn't supposed to start until 5 and somebody is already lynched? I'm guessing they quit or something?

Seriously, what happened at the start of the game? Nobody explained this. Why was the innocent child lynched? Was it for the theme or something?

Flavour, the "IC" is the comod. Yes, it's confusing.

Vote: MiX

I guess you know the reason and it's better than I thought.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)

« on: January 25, 2019, 11:07:46 am »

Vote: MiX

Why? I'll give Joseph, faust, and UncleEurope each 1 guess.

Oooh, Oooh, I know! Is it because OMGUS? Or do you have actual reasoning behind your vote?

So you think if those three have one guess all the others have more? Technically correct and awesome

Look at you, trying to buddy me with your "awesome" and "technically correct", I like your style...regardless, I didn't guess, I said a fact ("I know") and then asked questions, to aid the three that were playing the guessing game.

Real answer: I still want more from shraeye, the vote's okay but the reasoning is what I crave! Say it so I can move on.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)

« on: January 25, 2019, 11:03:27 am »

On a serious note, what are the odds two new players would be Mafia? I only ask because buddying seems to be a tactic some Mafia use for new players, but what happens if the buddies are new? Next level mafia play or ...?

You do have to realize I can only buddy someone who's active, and at the moment that was only arishpshape.

Doing some back of the napkin math, there is less than a 10% chance that two of the three new players wind up being scum. Given that the pool size is definitely not three new players, the odds are even lower.

If the scum plan was for SCM1 to post early, then SCM2 to buddy, and then use the defense that "SCM1 was the only active player" in response to accusations of new person scummy-buddying is... a strong play.

I'd like to think that new players are capable of this tactic, even if the probability is low that you are both scum. I'm keeping with my original vote for now, but i need to re-scrutinize arishpshape's posts.

Not even the Great Mafia that rules us all can dictate the avaiability of players; I like your argument, but it is moot: how could we know we were the only ones active at that time (while planning, of course)?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)

« on: January 25, 2019, 10:59:19 am »

Vote: MiX

Why? I'll give Joseph, faust, and UncleEurope each 1 guess.

Oooh, Oooh, I know! Is it because OMGUS? Or do you have actual reasoning behind your vote?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)

« on: January 25, 2019, 10:57:35 am »

Also we haven't clarified pronouns, it's now a thing to do that at the start of every mafia game. @ all new players: what's your preferred pronoun?

Forums and pronouns don't mix. There are to many people "he" or "she" could be referring to. Just call everyone by name. If you insist on utilizing pronouns, "he" will do fine for me.

He.
It gets tiresome always saying someone's name, especially when they're not perfectly lenghty such as mine; for example, I find your name hard to remember, lots of random letters with seemingly no order.

here goes the scumslip! vote: ss

Would it be scummy if I ask what the scumslip is? All I can see is him saying there are only 2 new players, when there are clearly 3...I don't think this implies anything other than null.

Hello! The game's more than those 3 quotes, got anything else to add?

SS is silverspawn, right?

I would say no, since there's no uppercase letter in my name.

SS is silverspawn iff the mod accepts it when written as a vote. I would test it, but I want to hear more from sharaeye before moving my vote.

PPE 2: I think it's clear that the scum team's 3 people, isn't that what's common in a 13 player game?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)

« on: January 25, 2019, 08:52:48 am »

I completely missed Uncleeurope...odd, maybe it's because I've actually seen him play.

I like wagons too, just not the current ones, those guys are my top townreads!

...I STILL want something from shraeye, his wife already talked, why can't he?

I hate how the two wagons thus far are me and arishpshape: not only are we "relative newbies", as LaLight pointed out, we are also the most active players, is this how all D1s go?

Silence is worse; all truths that are kept silent become poisonous.

Agreed, silence is worse than being wagoned, but is silence better or worse for scum? I think the answer can never be known...

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)

« on: January 25, 2019, 08:34:58 am »

Oh, thank you LaLight, was that for me? Regardless, FoS: LaLight, seems opportunist, maybe it's just the OMGUS talking, but still.

I hate how the two wagons thus far are me and arishpshape: not only are we "relative newbies", as LaLight pointed out, we are also the most active players, is this how all D1s go?

Another thing: LaLight, who's the fourth "relative newbie"? Is it Dylan?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)

« on: January 25, 2019, 08:30:02 am »

Also I'm the SK

Doesn't SK stand for Serial Killer? Doesn't this mean we should immediately lynch you?

Yeah that's Joseph's meta, claiming SK, don't ask me why that's a thing; however, killing someone because they're SK is (kinda) SK-hunting, which tends to be scummy, since the people that are more scared of SK than scum are scum themselves.

vote: arishipshape. Cluttering the thread.

How dare you! Cluttering the thread is no sin, unless you can prove one of my posts added no new information. Allow me to prove my point. The meaning and essence of the social deduction game Mafia is in the talking. The games mechanics are very simplistic and mostly irrelevant to the game. The point is in the players discussions. If the point of "mafia" is for the players to discuss, discussing cannot possibly be against the spirit of the game! Discussing, or as you so poorly put it, "cluttering the thread", is actually assisting the town by providing it with relevant information about my thought process, as well as ample quotes for me and everyone else to use as proof for or against me.

That whole post is a very good example of cluttering the thread, which is usually bad because it makes rereads of previous days more difficult, thus is inherently anti-town. I can't believe my townread is doing so many scummy things at once...I still think it's part of his town meta, gut feeling for that, but anti-town behavior should still be minimized.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)

« on: January 25, 2019, 06:51:14 am »

This be some bizarre buddying behavior from MiX followed by his conclusion that he should be prepared for his buddy to be scum, when buddying is a term that I would associate with something scum does.

You are absolutely right; I was going to mention buddying is usually a scum tactic, however, since I'm using it, I can clearly see its benefits for town first-hand: nevertheless not mentioning is, indeed, scummy.

arishpshape's defense on my buddying proves (for me, at least) that buddying is really cool and everyone should do it 

On a serious note, what are the odds two new players would be Mafia? I only ask because buddying seems to be a tactic some Mafia use for new players, but what happens if the buddies are new? Next level mafia play or ...?

You do have to realize I can only buddy someone who's active, and at the moment that was only arishpshape.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)

« on: January 24, 2019, 08:22:02 pm »

To be honest, I disregard the first vote on me, especially one right from the start of the game.

Buddying is essencially making someone your friend, usually by townreading and sheeping them (sheeping is voting on the same wagons as theirs). The purpose of buddying is to get a townread back from the player you're buddying, thus having an ally; this is good for survival.

We should wait for others to post, but I couldn't just not answer your question.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)

« on: January 24, 2019, 07:39:33 pm »

You really post like me...I like your style! Besides, even without the newbie pass, I still consider you town, I believe scum would talk to their summates first, diminishing that "first post" feel when they do talk in public, at least for a new person.

I am blatantly buddying you aren't I? I should prepare myself for when you're scum...

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)

« on: January 24, 2019, 06:03:50 pm »

I must say, Bravo, Umbrage, your flavour made me think there was an actual IC, sure hope everyone understood what actually happened, took me a while.

every time I have crossed someone day 1 I ended up dead.

Partial quote (those were bad, right?), but that means you want me to go after you...well, plan failed, since I already gave you a D1 pass.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 1)

« on: January 24, 2019, 05:40:08 pm »

arishpshape posts EXACTLY how I would post my first post in my first game, therefore he is town; regardless, I do believe giving newbies a D1 pass has become customary: by those I clearly mean myself, arishpshape and Debatepro.

Love silverspawn's response, disagree with the votes as I've said.

I've read some recent games, in those, I don't think I've seen shraeye nor raerae, so I consider them my biggest threats.

In that case, vote: shraeye , you look like a better person to get reactions from, for no reason whatsoever.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (4-5 spots left!)

« on: January 18, 2019, 11:29:32 am »

If extensive knowledge of the webcomic isn't needed, and you wont hate me forever for making many noob mistakes, /in

Don't worry, I'm here to make mistakes too! You won't feel lonely, I guarantee you.

Also, read the flavour, it's amazing/addictive and knowing the theme's always fun.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (7 spots left!)

« on: January 09, 2019, 05:23:59 pm »

/in

I've never played a closed setup before, but I've played plenty of mafia before, so how badly can this go, right?

...right? besides, I see that you're always short of players, and I have been reading the flavor...

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Civility Pledge

« on: January 09, 2019, 05:16:08 pm »

/pledge

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Introductions / Re: New to the forums

« on: January 09, 2019, 05:11:17 pm »

Hello.

I've started playing Dominion over 3 years ago, in Tabletop Simulator, and since then I've been lurking these forums

I would've continued to do so, if it weren't for forum games: I've played my share of mafia in TTS but never in a forum, and would love to try