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It's the lack of interest at deadlines due to us not playing for a while, the plurality exile, the weekend deadline, or something else?

My guess is plurality is the problem

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Sorry about that, although it doesn’t look like I missed anything. I thought the airplane would have WiFi, but alas, no.

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We have 2ish hours

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This is unfortunate.

We’ll be able to kill scum tomorrow, though.

Right?

Probably?

Anyway. I’m going to sleep. Might not wake up until after deadline.

Best of luck, folks.

This is the second time Eddie said this and he didn't answer my question about the first time. Then goes to sleep without changing his vote despite implying strongly that he thinks Jack is town. What's the message here?

Eddie, this is left over from Day 1. Can you respond?

Science.

Is that really the end of this conversation...?

I kinda want uncle to be SK so I can OMGUS without negative consequences, but I'm not seeing anything out of the ordinary. I mean, other than the quoted post. But when your meta is not explaining your reads...

Now I would reread joth, but I'm out of time. I might be here during deadline, or not.

Any conclusions?

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Unvote

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MIX, Shraeye, and EFHW…

Okay, so if Gkrieg, Math, and WCD are all off the table (assuming we’re believing gkrieg and math, obvi)…

Among who’s left, whose the SK?

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Granted, Shraeye is the guy that seems to bamboozle me more than most on here, but I’d be shocked if he’s bad.

I dunno.

I’d vote for EFHW leagues before shraeye, but shraeye doesn’t want me to.

I’m following gkrieg, and no one at all seems interested in EFHW. I’m not sure why gkrieg prefers Shraeye over MiX. Mathdude has cleared me, so we need to POE this thing out.

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Vote: Shraeye

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We are now less than 24 hours to deadline.


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MiX, are you voting for math because you think he’s the SK or self-Pres?

Both, but he did say something that makes me reconsider. I kinda hate going back to shraeye because I think I'm only scumreading him for being shraeye. So...I don't know.

Thanks for the unvote joth.

Why the reconsider?

The PR claim, basically.

Got it. Shraye then? Or am I still on your list?

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MiX, are you voting for math because you think he’s the SK or self-Pres?

Both, but he did say something that makes me reconsider. I kinda hate going back to shraeye because I think I'm only scumreading him for being shraeye. So...I don't know.

Thanks for the unvote joth.

Why the reconsider?

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I’m included to sheep gkrieg, but I’m going to think about mathdude some more today before I do that since no one seems interested in EFHW.

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MiX, are you voting for math because you think he’s the SK or self-Pres?

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Who uses "when" for a counterfactual they know for a fact will never happen?

Didds, you're a linguist/comms professor, back me up here.

But English isn’t his first language. I’m not sure we can read deep into specific word meaning, in this case.

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Hey y’all- I’m with friends and not at all caught up.

We’re choosing between MiX and math? Really?

I love the threat that MiX will only speak Portuguese. That’s hilarious because his English is a bajillion times better than any of my other languages.


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“Irkedness” is a great word!

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D1 his comments were snide and about my stunning lack of ability to build a case on someone despite me finding scum.
Today he is taking me to task for things that others think or have responded to.
He seems convinced that I am a baddie in a stubborn sort of way, so it all seems rather pointless.
Let's go line-by-line:
Disagree on tone, content, and relevance of consequence.
Disagree on magnitude and cause.
Disagree on my mindset and the futility of words.

Off your number one: this is snide. It may not be relevant to you, but it is to me and I get to determine my own consequences.

I think Didds level of heing and hawing has been much higher, also has been put on display on a awkward way....feels performative.

And if Didds is borrowing the metric of scumShraeye is shraeye-lite, it really feels like this is didds-lite.  I was thinking about that before Didds came in with her analysis on her wagon.
Hmmm....  I was looking at the people voting for me...
And wow. The amount of effort/substance staggered me.


#2: magnitude and cause- your cause is unknown to me. Magnitude is that I have you been your sole focus since mid-way through D1, and all of today.

#3: mindset and futility of words. I think Joth summarized well. We disagree on what an SK would think. I have no experience being an SK so I am just guessing. You decide the way that I think about is wrong and therefore scummy, so it really doesn't matter what I say.  I will agree that I don't know your mindset, but but can be surmised based on these posts.


This really doesn't compute. If Eddie/Joth are the folks most instrumental in exiling Jack, you can be HAPPY with their actions (I am) but in terms of whether their actions make them GoodPeople...their actions really just means "They are very much not Jack's partner."  Which means they are either SK or Town, each having equal incentive/happiness at exiling a Goon on Day1.

The only world where Jack's partner is somehow still alive is when it is gkreig going crrrrazy with a gambit.  So, you're saying "I am sure Eddie/joth are on my team because they are not Jack's partner....really doesn't compute with the statements you made here"

shraeye do you suspect Didds of being the SK, or are you just telling her she's wrong?



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That's my list, too, mathdude.

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Ugh. I need to stop being stubborn and fragile.

I don't think the SK antagonizes someone like that. The SK follows along.

Vote: EFHW

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Vote: Shraeye

I’m open to moving to one or two other people, but the list is short. I’m heading to Ohio later today to visit friends this weekend so I’ll be a bit scarce, but it’s not like anyone is burning up the thread right now. Catching a serial killer is hard, apparently. (I think this might be my first game that has an outright SK instead of a third party team!)

vote: Didds. It doesn't seem like she gave this vote a lot of thought, given that Shraeye's comment and joth's question were still unaddressed.

Joth didn't ask me a question. He asked Shraeye one that hasn't been answered:

shraeye do you suspect Didds of being the SK, or are you just telling her she's wrong?

I have no interest in engaging with Shraeye any more today. D1 his comments were snide and about my stunning lack of ability to build a case on someone despite me finding scum. Today he is taking me to task for things that others think or have responded to. He seems convinced that I am a baddie in a stubborn sort of way, so it all seems rather pointless. I think anyone who knows me knows that there isn't any way in hell in that I would kill Jimmmm when MiX or faust were still alive, so its just whatever.  Absent actually finding the SK, I am a fine enough exile for today.

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Also, today is my anniversary so hooray for debatepro and me! :)

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Vote: Shraeye

I’m open to moving to one or two other people, but the list is short. I’m heading to Ohio later today to visit friends this weekend so I’ll be a bit scarce, but it’s not like anyone is burning up the thread right now. Catching a serial killer is hard, apparently. (I think this might be my first game that has an outright SK instead of a third party team!)

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How do we find out soon enough? If he's the SK and the vig and both mafia are dead, he could ride this claim to the end of the game, couldn't he?

The cop?

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I’m firmly on team Eddie/Joth now!

Why is Eddie/Joth a team? What made you want to join it?

These are the folks instrumental in exiling Jack. They are my town team. Either of them not joining the wagon would have made traction on exiling scum way harder.
So, what are your thoughts on gkrieg's claim?

I believe him. Or at least I think it’s in our best interest to proceed as if what he is saying is true. If it’s not, we find out soon enough.

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The SK could still want to kill Jack, though.

So we aren’t guiltless by default.

True enough, but for today you’re in my team.

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