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FYI, accidentally deleted most of the OP. If anyone has the text of it saved somehow PM me. Otherwise, make do with what's there.

9702
The Apothecaries were getting restless. Where was the Chancellor? When would their memories return?

"We're not spending another night with those Familiars roaming around!" TINAS exclaims.
"Ftl must be one of them!" CF and O brew up a poisonous potion, while Galzria and zxcvbn2 hold ftl down. 

"Apothecaries, thy drugs are quick," he says, and dies.


Vote Count


ftl [5] - Thisisnotasmile, Captain_Frisk, O, Galzria, zxcvbn2
O[2] - ftl, Insomniac

not voting - Robz888, yuma

ftl, Town Apothecary, has been lynched.

Night 1 begins now. Night actions are due in 48 hours. The thread is now LOCKED.


9703

Captain Frisk decides to give the Scrying Pool a try. "Great Scrying Pool," he says "Show me who the familiar is." Words form on the water's murky surface.

"Top card is an Estate. Keep or Discard?"


Vote Count


ftl [4] - Thisisnotasmile, Captain_Frisk, O, Galzria
O[3] - zxcvbn2, ftl, Insomniac

not voting - Robz888, yuma

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.


9704
I'm also a Tracker. I tracked Galz the last two nights. He really did target the captain. But he also targeted Groobzle. He must have another ability.

Galrobzia is lying. Robz never lies.

Vote: Galrobzia

9705
[fakemod] O, Town Jester, has been lynched [/fakemod]

9706
Let the record show that when I'm unsure about a target (and therefore switch my vote/accuse widely) that's scummy, but when I become sure about a target, that's also scummy.

I've officially concluded that if you worry about being scummy in this game, you'll never get anything done.

9707
Galzria, I get that you want to discredit me now that I've made it clear I'm going after you whether you bussed your partner or not. But you don't really need to waste your breath. I'm auto-discredited.

9708
Whichever way O flips, I'm pushing for a Galzria wagon tomorrow. It looks like I'll have company, so that's nice.

Keep it scummy Jo.

Still won't hammer your partner, huh? Good call.

I'm here watchin, ain't I? I was willing to throw that hammer but I thought we'd give O the full hour to miraculously come back from V/LA and role claim, or whatever. I didn't see the need to quickhammer.

Oh well, moot now.

9709
We try not to talk about currently ongoing games in other games. Finished ones are fine.

9710
Whichever way O flips, I'm pushing for a Galzria wagon tomorrow. It looks like I'll have company, so that's nice.

9711
*New vote count.  People were asking, and I'm getting good at doing them in MV, so yeah. 2 switches to O gets us a lynch, though, IMO not as good a lynch as Galzria is right now.

9712
New vote, because deadline is soon and idk where Volt is:

jotheonah (2): SwitchedFromStarcraft
Grujah (1): popsofctown
Glooble (1): Grujah
O (5): Tables, Robz888, Glooble, Galzria, Axxle
Galzria (2): jotheonah, Dsell
popsofctown (2): O, Captain_Frisk

9713
New prediction:  we won't lynch anyone.

I'll check the thread in the hour before the deadline in the morning, and may be sorely tempted to sheep.

Question for all, including Jo:  How is it that we've STILL not lynched Jo?

I ask myself this question constantly.

I really don't want to be alive at Lylo, because it'll be too easy for the mafia to convince the remaining town to lynch me instead of them and then the town will lose and it will pretty much be my fault.

Robz, I agree with you re: Galz and O.

New prediction:  we won't lynch anyone.

I'll check the thread in the hour before the deadline in the morning, and may be sorely tempted to sheep.

Question for all, including Jo:  How is it that we've STILL not lynched Jo?

Good lord I'd like to know that too. I think on my part, because I actually felt BAD for him earlier. I thought his play was irksome, but not scummy. But after the way he has played these last two irl days, I really don't believe that's the case anymore. He's been intentionally divisive, willfully ignorant, and so completely smug with himself that I really fail tutti draw many other conclusions.

intentionally divisive: not really, that would imply that my votes and FoSes actually had any effect on anybody
willfully ignorant: not really sure what you mean here, but I have to say all my ignorance has been accidental
completely smug with myself: well, ok, guilty as charged, but you could lynch half this town for that offense ; )

9714
Have to go for a while.

Will vote O if need be before deadline, prefer Galzria. So excited about new information tomorrow.

9715
It's like ~16 hours til deadline. Volt, can we get a Vote Count?

9716
You're right at least on one point. There's nothing more to say. You don't argue with scum, you try to convince others about them. And I've said my piece.

I don't like Galz's play lately. It's out of character.

9717
I still don't like the way you're arguing here, Galz.  You're repeating points instead of expounding on them. You have this affectation of "if you believe this you're just dumb" which I don't read as accurate, and I therefore read as an emotional manipulation of the argument.

9718
Vote: Galzria

The logic of his arguments is not up to snuff lately. For instance, he keeps saying to Robz that it doesn't make sense to be suspicious of the Grujah bandwagon but not of my Day 1 bandwagon, even though Robz has laid out the substantial differences between those wagons (including (A) the similarities between that and the Axxle1 wagon and (B) the fact that this wagon built much faster). There are other things too. He seems to feel like he can make Robz's theory crazy by repeating that it's crazy enough times.  Digging in + ignoring arguments = scummy, especially for Galz.

Not loving O either right now. But getting the scummiest vibe from G-money lately.

9719
I don't know how you all manage to get these sets of scumtells. The only linkages I have are Robz-Grujah and the extremely unlikely Table-SFS, and those are pairs, not trios.

 
it's part of my iso this game, it's not really a thing.

 
pairings without flips are dumb.

I think "part of my iso" was in response to my question about prisms, not to O's question about pairings, which was directed at me.

QUOTE BUTTON IS OUR FRIEND.

9720
I used "subsets" specifically. I don't have groups. I have some different possible scenarios and they each include a spattering of possible candidates. I guess the short answer to Frisk's question was "Yes." I wouldn't vote for someone I knew to be town, with one exception.

Lynches I'm OK with today: Axxle, Grujah, pops, (Galz, O)
I'm tempted to include myself on that list, but I'll limit it to folks who might actually be scum.

Parentheses for would rather not but could do in a pinch.

9721
Ok, I looked that one up on MafiaScum and couldn't find it. Prisms?

9722
There's two possible mafia subsets in my mind. One of them (the lurker mafia theory) almost certainly includes Grujah.

So yes, I believe he could be mafia.

9723
Well two days before deadline is definitely the best time to be starting a bunch of new wagons. I'm so glad superrobz cut in when he did. We were getting dangerously close to actually accomplishing something.

9724

Finally, the frustrated town turns to familiar-hunting. "ftl kind of looks like a cat!" says O. "Well O kind of smells like one!" ftl replies.

Vote Count


ftl [4] - Thisisnotasmile, Captain_Frisk, O, Galzria
Thisisnotasmile[1] - Insomniac
O[2] - zxcvbn2, ftl

not voting - Robz888, yuma

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.


9725


And to tell you the truth, it isn't Robz's case that's starting to convince me, it's the amazing sensitivity and overreaction you two have displayed since he started spinning it.

Joth does good work in fits and starts.

In this post that you quote, j never answers the question - which is - if you believe robz's theory - which does not include grujah as potential suspect - then why is he still voting for grujah?  and it's not like he's just not unvoting.  He continues to actively push for a kill.

Read more carefully. Finding the quote that answers your question.

@O As far as I'm concerned, Robz has spun a great theory - if Grujah flips town.  If Grujah flips scum it all kind of falls apart though.  So what I'd really like to do is table all this nonsense for tomorrow and get on with the lynch that a good portion of the town seemed willing to get behind.

Grujah's flip will paint tonight's events in a much clearer light, and it won't hurt the town too much.

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