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So is there any way this isn't just game over?

gkrieg is either the vig or the SK. We vote EFHW, then we either win or vote gkrieg.

Obviously if the roleblocker blocked gkrieg for some reason they should claim. And also explain why they did that.

We could do a mass claim just for fun, but I can't see any way, other than an absolutely mad roleblocker, that the SK isn't either EFHW or gkrieg. And the lack of a third kill just confirms gkrieg's story even more.

Sort of boring but vote: EFHW

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: f.ds Mafia Hub
« on: August 02, 2022, 09:39:15 am »
Would people be interested in a pure vanilla setup? Mafia, town, no PRs?

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Shouldn’t deadline have happened by now?

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I'll try vote: shraeye

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I sort of forgot MiX’s first language wasn’t English.

Now I feel like a jackass.

Anyway unvote for now.

Someone said that we should look at D1 to see who might have wanted to kill Jimmmm since he’s the SK target if gkrieg is telling the truth. So I’m gonna look into that tomorrow.

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Who uses "when" for a counterfactual they know for a fact will never happen?

Didds, you're a linguist/comms professor, back me up here.

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To clarify, "then" means "when I'm revealed to be SK". It doesn't mean "after all" or something. I feel like "then" can have 2 meanings there.

Interesting. I would have used "if" there.

Vote: MiX

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I'll begrudgingly move my vote, but if MiX does turn out to be SK I would like a cookie. With chocolate chips.

Fine, I'll give you one then.

Is this a straight up SK claim? I said I wanted a cookie if he was SK, he says he'll give me a cookie, ergo, he's SK. Wow, what a colossal scumslip.

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I'll begrudgingly move my vote, but if MiX does turn out to be SK I would like a cookie. With chocolate chips.

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so I reject my instinct

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my instinct is that Didds's defensiveness here is scummy, but I think I've thought that before with her and its turned out to be genuine towny frustration.

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I don’t have cases either, shraeye.

Am I the SK?

I certainly haven't ruled it out.

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shraeye do you suspect Didds of being the SK, or are you just telling her she's wrong?

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If a Cannibal night-kills another Cannibal, they take all of the bodies their target had, learning all the role/alignment information their target knew. This will include their target's night-kill target from that same night, if applicable.


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But you get the bodies of the people you kill. So if he killed Joseph who killed scum, then he'd know both identities. Right?

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How do we find out soon enough? If he's the SK and the vig and both mafia are dead, he could ride this claim to the end of the game, couldn't he?

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Swowl, will you please prod Shraeye for us?

Joth, Eddie, why the MiX votes?

I think MiX and shraeye best fit the profile of SK based on D1 play. And then I just don't like this post. It feels like MiX is rushing to the defensive before he's been properly accused. And then voting shraeye hoping I'll follow him. It was just overeager. idk.


Vote: shraeye

Sheeping joth.

At least I have the confort in knowing that scum!me knows what town!me does, because I think I'd do this as SK too.

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I wish you had waited for me to vote for shraeye before sheeping me. Now I just feel like I'm being manipulated.

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Is there any merit to a no exile here?

We have 8 alive and probably 2 kills happening. So I guess the parity sort of cancels itself out.

I don't want to but I think I ought to vote: MiX

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claiming in general is not going to be that useful because of the information asymmetry... I think.

I don't know. I think I'm with MiX. Give our PRs one more night to work.

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I mean, if your SK test is “stayed under the radar” I think MiX and shraeye fit the bill. They both played D1 pretty nonconfrontational and stayed out of all the major drama, which is not really on-brand for either of them.

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Voted Jack early and without reservations: faust, WCD
Expressed reticence but still voted Jack early: joth, Eddie
Expressed reticence but voted Jack eventually: Joseph
Explicitly against the Jack exile: EFHW, Jack
Didn’t express a sentiment but voted Jack eventually: Jimmmm
Didn’t express a sentiment, didn’t vote Jack: mathdude, shraeye, MiX

Looking at the day end, Joseph is the most obvious partner to me, which I guess gives gkrieg some town points.

Damn, if gk is telling the truth then we’re just SK hunting and this wagon analysis is considerably less useful. And if go is lying he’s scum so we’re still SK hunting. Unless gkrieg is the serial killer and he’s lying, which we do have to consider. But I think we can wait at least one night before we go he’s down that rabbit hole.

SK wouldn’t shoot Joseph though. Because killing the other faction off this early is bad for them.

Even (and dare I say especially) the towniest players could be the SK. How are we supposed to catch them?

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My gut read is gkrieg is lying and he’s a goon.

Just because I think if you’re the other goon right now you’re feeling like things went pretty badly for you and you’re ready to try a Hail Mary.

But idk. It’s gutsy. And there’s basically no way he pulls this when there’s a counterclaim out there, so he would have to have killed the vig to be claiming now which is long odds.

So on reflection he’s probably telling the truth. Probably.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: f.ds Mafia Hub
« on: July 23, 2022, 04:36:51 pm »
I don't mind modding after this one. I don't think I have it in me to brew one, but I could run an open setup.

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I do think a serial killer is a bit more likely to lurk as they really need to stay under the radar. So this game has that going for it.

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