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Dominion General Discussion / Re: Neat card interactions that were useful in the game you found them in.

« on: December 14, 2018, 12:30:20 am »

Beggar + Guildhall. Especially powerful with 5/2 opening. The fact that Beggar gives 6 even allows to buy provinces, while under handsize-reducing attacks. Bought provinces turn 4,5 and 7 and 8 (though there was no collision).

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Rules Questions / Re: Pay order mechanics

« on: December 27, 2017, 05:14:28 am »

So as right now there are no effects that kick in as you spend money to pay for a card buy, it does not matter whether you will pay 1 coin then 1 potion then 2 coin then 3 coin and then 5 debt and then 4,5 and 6 coins - there is no order by which we must spend our money?

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Rules Questions / Re: Pay order mechanics

« on: December 26, 2017, 09:38:29 am »

So, correct me, if i'm wrong, each time i play a treasure in buy phase, i check things i can and cannot buy, after i finished playing treasures i choose something to buy from thing i can buy, then coins and potion gets substracted from my count, then i trigger on-buys and everything goes after? In my example, i gain Villa out of some sort of the on-buy effect chain (for this example lets assume i have a Haggler in play, when i bought Grand Market with 2 Debt tokens from Tax out of earlier example and gain Villa as a card that's cheaper than Grand Market off Haggler's "on-buy" ability), and(as far as i understand) i trigger Villa's "on gain" ability and gain it into my hand and return to the action phase, while i still in waiting to pay debt off Grand Market and still waiting to gain Grand Market, right?; thus i can play this Villa gain +1 Buy and buy something again before gaining Tax debt tokens off Grand Market? By the way, when do i receive Debt tokens from GM? As Donald X. said, even if i lost track of my Grand Market i will still pay debt off it.

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Rules Questions / Re: Pay order mechanics

« on: December 26, 2017, 07:38:22 am »

Do Debt tokens of Tax or Debt tokens in general are taken on-buy? You mean, if i bought wedding, while having (expiriencing?/ activating? Whats a proper wording for that term i wonder..) some on-buy effect off it, the effect would (could?) be receieved before taking the debt? So if i got villa off such effect i would go to the action phase before receiving the Debt tokens? If yes would i be able to make a new buy before receiving debt tokens off the previous one?
I do understand that copper needs to be in play, yes. Thats why i asked if i try buying GM with debt tokens to take the debt and pay it off with copper in play, and buy GM later. (Without copper in play)
Did i get it right, that we pay coins and potion *before* buying and *debt* after?

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Rules Questions / Re: Pay order mechanics

« on: December 26, 2017, 05:46:27 am »

It wouldnt. I just tried to create a hypothetical situation where i use 2 different on-pay* (lets call it so) effects. Which should happen before on-buys and fail to realise that Tax is on-buy. The premise of my question is an order of payment in a game. Do we pay all money simultaneusly? 1 by 1? By type? At which point we decrement buys?

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Rules Questions / Re: Pay order mechanics

« on: December 26, 2017, 01:14:25 am »

Oh and then i pay a *1 buy* effect, right?

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Rules Questions / Re: Pay order mechanics

« on: December 26, 2017, 01:10:59 am »

Thanks. Though my 1sr question was about order of paying, i just tried to create a situation where it mattered. So when i pay for a card which order i pay? If i get it right 1st i check gm ability *no coppers in play* then i can choose what i pay money/potion/debt in whichever order i wanna?

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Rules Questions / Re: Pay order mechanics

« on: December 26, 2017, 01:00:53 am »

So when i buy a card with a debt tokens from tax, if i can loose track of it due to on-buy effect i dont need to receive the debt?

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Rules Questions / Pay order mechanics

« on: December 26, 2017, 12:27:38 am »

Suppose I have a Grand Market, Tax, Bonfire, village & Coppersmith in kingdom. If there are 2 Tax Debt tokens upon Grand Market, can i play 3 Grand Markets, village then play 2 coppersmith in action phase. Then play 2 coppers in Buy phase (each giving me 3$). Can i attemt to buy grand market with copper, pay 2 debt (thous receiving 2 debt tokens from gm pile), then attemt to pay 6 for gm and fail with its ability(cause copper in play), then pay debt tokens with copper money, then buy bonfire to trash copper from play and then buy gm without debt with only gms money?