Graverobber means you can take any card any player trashed? Is it removed from the trash then? Or can another player still get it with graverobber. Apprentice peddler grave robber or app hoard grave robber just became even more obscene. If you can take any card trashed by any player, just buy apprentice, let him trash the good cards and grave rob them
You can't take Peddler without Highway, Peddler, Bridge, or BM+Quarry.
Not in my experience. Since Masquerade trashes fairly slowly, a Torturer chain increases your deck size a lot faster than Masquerade can trim it. That's bad news, because the Torturer-chaining player will have a Masquerade too, and end up with a nice trim deck and a draw engine.Man, I think the mere presence of looters in a kingdom will make Golem and HP worthless. Just a couple of ruins in your deck basically causes these cards to completely dud quite often. Once it happens a few times, there will be a snowball effect as the looting player keeps adding ruins to the Golem (or HP) deck. I guess with 200 different types of cards, it's inevitable that the presence of a few cards could render a few other cards obsolete. (Can anybody think of an example where that happens already? Lighthouse vs Sea Hag maybe?)
On the other hand, maybe I'm wrong, and the effect of ruins won't be as significant as it seems. Or maybe there are other DA cards that help the situation, if they're available, such as ones that specialize in hunting for and trashing ruins. Or maybe there's a +actions card which trashes ruins.
You're overreacting, I think. First, at WORST, Hunting Party will be a $5 Lab. Lab is already a $5 card. It'll ruin the traditional Hunting Party DECK (1 silver, 1 gold, 1 terminal silver, lots of HPs) but HP as a card will still be fine even in the presence of ruins. Whenever you get a Laboratory in a ruins-infested deck, HP would probably work no worse. It'll still skip over coppers and estates pretty well.
Likewise, you won't be able to make a "Golem Deck" where you get one or two actions and lots of golems. But there's nothing wrong with using Golem in a more standard way, as an engine component - it's still basically equivalent to Village+Lab (Draw 2 cards which are guaranteed to be actions and play them immediately) with, admittedly, a little less control. You'll want to play a Village before the golem because you won't have as much control over the outcome. But it'll still be playable. Perhaps a little too expensive, but still reasonable.
They won't be worthless. They'll be weaker, but by no means worthless.
(And, BTW, Masquerade does shut down, like, Sea Hag or something. It's not unprecedented.)
Masquerade shuts down Torturer. "Oh? I can take a Curse in hand? Why thank you! Just the perfect thing to pass to you via Masquerade!"
Masquerade does make Torturer less scary, but it definitely doesn't make it ignorable.
"Moriturus Sumus" also fits in the theme of "Dark Ages", since no one would have known enough Latin any more to correct the phrase's disagreement in subject and verb number.
Man, I think the mere presence of looters in a kingdom will make Golem and HP worthless. Just a couple of ruins in your deck basically causes these cards to completely dud quite often. Once it happens a few times, there will be a snowball effect as the looting player keeps adding ruins to the Golem (or HP) deck. I guess with 200 different types of cards, it's inevitable that the presence of a few cards could render a few other cards obsolete. (Can anybody think of an example where that happens already? Lighthouse vs Sea Hag maybe?)
On the other hand, maybe I'm wrong, and the effect of ruins won't be as significant as it seems. Or maybe there are other DA cards that help the situation, if they're available, such as ones that specialize in hunting for and trashing ruins. Or maybe there's a +actions card which trashes ruins.
You're overreacting, I think. First, at WORST, Hunting Party will be a $5 Lab. Lab is already a $5 card. It'll ruin the traditional Hunting Party DECK (1 silver, 1 gold, 1 terminal silver, lots of HPs) but HP as a card will still be fine even in the presence of ruins. Whenever you get a Laboratory in a ruins-infested deck, HP would probably work no worse. It'll still skip over coppers and estates pretty well.
Likewise, you won't be able to make a "Golem Deck" where you get one or two actions and lots of golems. But there's nothing wrong with using Golem in a more standard way, as an engine component - it's still basically equivalent to Village+Lab (Draw 2 cards which are guaranteed to be actions and play them immediately) with, admittedly, a little less control. You'll want to play a Village before the golem because you won't have as much control over the outcome. But it'll still be playable. Perhaps a little too expensive, but still reasonable.
They won't be worthless. They'll be weaker, but by no means worthless.
(And, BTW, Masquerade does shut down, like, Sea Hag or something. It's not unprecedented.)
Ruins should give us a new Max Fairgrounds score, if anyone cares to calculate it. And Menagerie is gonna be a decent counter to ruins attacks.
No point to calculating Fairgrounds at the moment; in the middle of a new set being previewed. How many cards would you count from the new set? We don't yet know how many differently named cards Dark Ages has for sure.
True. Considering that this set has 35 kingdom cards instead of the usual 25, and five of these cards are Ruins, it wouldn't surprise me if another five cards are Shelters.
I'm very confident that the other Ruins cards will be:
+2$
+2 Cards
+2 Actons
Not +1 whatever like everyone else has been saying.
Ruins should give us a new Max Fairgrounds score, if anyone cares to calculate it. And Menagerie is gonna be a decent counter to ruins attacks.
Sage skips Duchess -- no time for shenanigans when you've got books to read.
But they'll certainly stop for a Harem.
I'm pretty sure +1 Buy is the only one you might buy, seeing as it's the only one not every board has. +$1 is a worse copper, +1 Card wastes your action, +1 Action wastes a card.
Pedantic Man!
Not every board draws you cards. Well, you say, it only gets the one card back, so that does nothing - true... normally! But there are two cards for which you actually get to draw EXTRA cards this way: Golem and King's Court. So, with no other +cards, but you COULD build some enormous actiony enginey awesomesauce, except that there are NO +CARDS CARDS AT ALL (like, no cantrips, no nothin' - I guess there are some kinds of +action cards that aren't cantrips, a la lighthouse, festival, fishing village), and there is at least one of golem and king's court, in that situation, you might want those ruined smithies (or whatever they will be called.
What do you mean that will never happen? Didn't stop them from printing Scout!
The easiest way to game the system is to set up a conspiracy ...
Or hide it all in your Secret Chamber.
Just don't play at the airport.
The easiest way to game the system is to set up a conspiracy ...
Estates.
Copper does NOT hurt poorhouse until you're playing multiples at a time.
(If you play PH with no coppers in hand, you get 4 coins from it. If you play ph with one copper in hand, you get 3 coins from the ph and one from the copper for a total of four. And so on and so forth - if you're playing a single ph in a turn, you get $4 regardless of the number of coppers in your hand (as long as it's below 5)).
I'm about to buy all the remaining expansions and I want to sleeve them all and thus order the appropriate number of sleeves with the games.
Where I might I find a single source that tells me the card counts for each boxed set?
I was about to post it in the "really bad card ideas" topic, but I thought it wouldn't be relevant.
Let's ruin everything !
-Ruined Tribute- (Action)
The player to your left reveals and discards the top card of his deck. If it is...
an action card, +1 action
a treasure card, +$1
a victory card, +1 card
-Ruined Coppersmith- (Action)
The first copper you play this turn produce an extra $1
-Ruined Contraband- (Treasure)
+$1
When you play this, reveal your hand. The player to your left names two cards, you can't buy those cards this turn.
Okay, the problem with Feodum is that you need 9 Silvers to get it up to Duchy level, which is always a good benchmark.
9 Silvers may be no problem with Trader, which can get you that by trashing a Platinum, but with cards that just gain one Silver at a time, it's going to be a real task.
What Feodum needs is to always appear in conjunction with a card that can net you 3 Silvers a pop.
Trader/Cache.
That gets you 2 Silvers, maximum. Also, please tell me you got Voltgloss's clever joke.
Yes, but that's quite a niche and the more cards come out, the less (barring Dark Ages helpers) likely it is that you will have Trader or something else.Okay, the problem with Feodum is that you need 9 Silvers to get it up to Duchy level, which is always a good benchmark.
9 Silvers may be no problem with Trader, which can get you that by trashing a Platinum, but with cards that just gain one Silver at a time, it's going to be a real task.
What Feodum needs is to always appear in conjunction with a card that can net you 3 Silvers a pop.
It just seems a bit like Tunnel without the reaction to me in that you will likely grab it over Estate as it's almost always going to be at least one point, but you won't often create a strategy especially for it.
