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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 5)
« on: May 14, 2017, 10:27:59 pm »
if sk doesn't have strongman left, then faust (can) win. roleblock sk every night, killing kkrieg then killing sk.

There will be a day phase, though, with faust, SK, and VT all still alive. They would have to do nothing on this day for faust to win. VT could vote with SK to spite kill faust. That's probably what I would do, since it would seem like a no-win position for the town.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 5)
« on: May 14, 2017, 10:07:13 pm »
Or he for some reason hedged his bets, shooting you but blocking me.
if he shoots sk that isn't bulletproof he loses. if he doesn't roleblock sk he is more than likely shot (if he thought it was me, it would have seemed like i planned to shoot that night; you apparently aren't aware of any plan involving no-kill the first night)

He loses in all situations. You have not laid out a situation where faust doesn't lose. The only one I can think of would be faust shooting a defenseless SK at the same time as the SK killing the last (or second last townie).

You want the town cred for proposing an SK plan, saying you didn't act on it and that the proves you town, except it wasn't a good plan anyway, which is why you didn't do it.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 5)
« on: May 14, 2017, 09:35:58 pm »
yeah town is supposed to spend all their time trying to figure out what town would be doing


it's kind of a scumslip that you think faust shot sk (ie me from your point of view). if he thought i was sk, he would have roleblocked me, which means i would have had to strongman, bulletproof to survive, and investigation immune n1, whereas there's only two joat shots. so you're either not bothering to think about the setup or you're not thinking of me as sk


faust kills kkrieg and not you because he only wins if your kill doesn't go through, and so if he kills you then he loses (3 way where he is confscum)

My best guess is that faust didn't shoot, because he didn't want to be kingmaking. Or he shot kkrieg anyway, and kkrieg commuted to survive--of course, kkrieg knows whether that's what happened. Or he for some reason hedged his bets, shooting you but blocking me.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 5)
« on: May 14, 2017, 06:19:28 pm »
oh incidentally, killing faust right away wasn't the right play for SK. he should have waited (at least) one night so faust thinks he doesn't have strongman, so faust kills kkrieg n5 to pursue his wincon and so sk kills faust n5 as well, endgaming me


in the words of robz in m90, this basically ICs me

I don't understand any part of this plan. I realize you've thought about what's in the best interests of the SK longer than I have, but how would this work? Why would faust deviate from just shooting the SK until the SK is dead?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 5)
« on: May 14, 2017, 04:39:56 pm »
Well, it's up to kkrieg to decide. Let us know what you need from us in order to make your choice.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 5)
« on: May 14, 2017, 04:35:46 pm »
Vote: schadd

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 4)
« on: May 14, 2017, 10:20:35 am »
Robz, why are you so agitated by the way? You don't actually need kkrieg to vote no lynch. As long as you're not voting for anyone and no scum votes for themselves, there's not a whole lot that could go wrong.

I'm not agitated, I was just worried that kkrieg might make a mistake, because it's a very complicated situation, and she's a relative newbie, and there's no one alive she knows she can trust.
Yeah; I'm just saying it doesn't matter if she makes a mistake.

If she had voted faust, and schadd had voted faust, and you had voted yourself just for spite, it would have mattered!

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 4)
« on: May 14, 2017, 09:53:42 am »
Robz, why are you so agitated by the way? You don't actually need kkrieg to vote no lynch. As long as you're not voting for anyone and no scum votes for themselves, there's not a whole lot that could go wrong.

I'm not agitated, I was just worried that kkrieg might make a mistake, because it's a very complicated situation, and she's a relative newbie, and there's no one alive she knows she can trust.

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I'm actually going to extend the deadline a bit, since it's the weekend.

Submit bids by 1:00 PM on Monday.

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Everyone should have their alignment and draft number. Check your QTs. PM me if not. Bids are due by 1 PM Monday.

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The draft ordering process is now finished. Next, I will post your order number, and your alignment, in your personal QT. The mafia will also receive their factional QT.

Please indicate in your QT (personal or factional) which Power Role you plan to bid on. Submit orders like this:


Bid: 2-Shot Vigilante (Slot 1)

Or, if you are pursuing slots 11, 12, or 13, just write:

Bid: Slot 11


The draft ordering process was as follows:

1. Correct guesses for question one were worth 5 points. Guessing the entire "most formidable" mafia team would have yielded 25 max points. (At least one player guessed all five.)

2. Correct guesses for question two were worth 3 points. 2 extra points were given for each guess that was ordered correctly. 1 point was subtracted for each wrong guess. A perfect score would have yielded 50 points if the answers were in the exact right order. Most players scored in the 15-20 range.

3. A correct answer here was worth 100 points--in practice, any player who got this right was automatically advanced to the front of the pack. (At least one player got this right.)

The highest-scoring player has position #1 in the draft, the next-highest has position #2, and so on.

After the game is finished, I can give you your score and the correct answers. For now, I will say no more about it.

SUBMIT YOUR BIDS BY MONDAY,  MAY 15TH AT 1 PM FORUM TIME.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 4)
« on: May 13, 2017, 11:04:13 am »
Faust's strategy here is to gum up the thread: KKRIEG, OUR ONLY WINNING MOVE IS TO VOTE: NO LYNCH, anything else results in an insta-SK win or insta-mafia win.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 4)
« on: May 13, 2017, 12:55:32 am »
incidentally, counter-argument to the argument that none of you would pose: in theory i should be pretending to be sk so faust doesn't know who to block, but see again: m92, faust is good at reading robz (and moderately good at reading me but m94 is a bit counter to that)


so i preferred making sure robz has clear instruction as to what he has to do because apparently reading setups is out of vogue again

Let's be clear on what you are trying to do: you are trying to give faust reason to shoot me, a VT, instead of you.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 4)
« on: May 13, 2017, 12:45:43 am »
But okay, fine. I see it now. Doesb't change matters now.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 4)
« on: May 13, 2017, 12:45:27 am »
Yes yes I looked it up. Did not remember inheriting the RB. Blanked that game from memory because it was one of my biggest losses ever, in 63 games of mafia.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 4)
« on: May 13, 2017, 12:42:26 am »
Fine, make me look it up instead of providing like a nice link or quote or something

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M98: Русская Mafia
« on: May 13, 2017, 12:40:37 am »
- When the Traitor dies, if at least one Mafia Goon is still alive one will be chosen at random to inherit the Roleblocking role. This Goon will be transformed from a Goon to a Mafia Roleblocker.
you were like literally scum last game in this setup and we lynched traitor d1 like holy shit

What? Use words. What game? They all run together.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 4)
« on: May 13, 2017, 12:34:49 am »
dude i told you already. faust inherited the roleblock

What on earth are you talking about. Where does it say that happens.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 4)
« on: May 13, 2017, 12:34:07 am »
no lynch just forces faust to kingmake. you are kind of forced into shooting him, assuming you're not preferring the charade to actually telling me whether it's going to work. you shoot faust because any other target loses you the game. faust chooses between sk win, town win, or proper lylo where i trounce you. kapeesh?

Kkrieg, schadd wants us to lynch faust because it's an auto win for SK!schadd.

If we No Lynch, it's possible faust and schadd shoot each other and town wins. It's not the greatest odds ever because the SK might still be 1-shot bulletproof, in which case you, me, and schadd at least get a LYLO tomorrow. But hey, we have a chance there too (we actually have a guaranteed win there, if you trust me). All of this is better than listening to schadd now and killing faust.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 4)
« on: May 13, 2017, 12:30:37 am »
Kkrieg!! You have to listen to me. We know faust is mafia and schadd is SK for sure! Faust is mafia because he counterclaimed 2.7, and we know 2.7 was telling the truth. Schadd is SK because there's no one else left.

The problem is that if we lynch either faust or schadd, the other will shoot one of us and town loses. So we have to Vote: No Lynch and hope they somehow kill each other.

We are in this terrible situation because somehow, 2.7 did not stop faust's kill, even though he was a JK. I'm really confused as to how this happened, it must mean 2.7 tried to get fancy and assume faust wasn't even going to do anything with his shot (because he expected to be blocked) and tried to prevent the SK's kill. Although even then, 2.7 screwed up, because he apparently didn't guard gkrieg.

So I'm pretty confused how we ended up here, but here is bad, and the only thing that could possibly make it less bad is No Lynch.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 4)
« on: May 13, 2017, 12:27:16 am »
I get that you are confessing to being the SK, yes.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 4)
« on: May 13, 2017, 12:25:15 am »
I don't know why "quotes" are called for.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 4)
« on: May 13, 2017, 12:23:07 am »
i think what ends up happening is both of us have to claim whether we used strongman so you have incentive to tell me without losing in the me-you-kkrieg lylo (if faust decides to no-kill

I can claim that right now. I did not use strongman, I don't have strongman I am VT. You are trying to find a win for the SK here. Did YOU use strongman?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 4)
« on: May 13, 2017, 12:22:11 am »
Anything other than No Lynch is town suicide. It takes us to night with three people, including one scum. We lose! We beng me and kkrieg, since you are the SK.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M98: Русская Mafia (Day 4)
« on: May 13, 2017, 12:20:08 am »
like, you're fucked and there's no reason not to at least try something. you can strongman kill faust tonight if you can to give a non-faust faction a chance of winning. i mean we can just lynch him but town doesn't want that

The only thing that fucks me over is actually lynching faust here, which you surely know, which is why you are trying to goad me into doing it!! You are such obv!SK right now.

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