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Dominion League / Re: Season 18 - Results
« on: November 15, 2016, 06:50:45 am »
Division D3 - Gloures def. Cascadestyelr 4-2
Wait - there are new shuffle rules?? What?!?!
Yes and no. There are new rules on how to shuffle, but they're functionally identical to the old rules, just a little easier to apply in practice. Barring one or two minor edge cases at least (Stash, but that's getting a rewording/errata for 1st edition IIRC)
In short: Instead of shuffling when you have no cards in deck and need to interact with the top of your deck, you now shuffle when something tells you to go further into your deck than you can, by shuffling your discard pile and placing it under your deck. So e.g. if you play Smithy with 2 cards in deck, instead of drawing 2, shuffling, forgetting how many you drew, then drawing one more, you shuffle your discard pile, put it under the 2 cards in your deck, then draw 3 cards. Same end result but easier to track.
As the 2nd editions get out and about, it's going to be harder and harder to get copies of the 12 removed cards. I know what I'd be like if I'd just found dominion right now, I'd start with the new editions, but, over time, I'd want to play with those 12 cards. Maybe they aren't that good, but I'd feel I'd want to decide that for myself.There are no such plans, and I hope there never are.
So, I was wondering if there are any plans afoot to put out a "The lost cards" pack - just a little sort-of-expansion that gives you the 12 removed cards, for the people (like me) who like to have everything. It would be the crappiest dominion expansion ever, but hell I know I'd happily fork out a tenner for it if I had the 2nd editions. Variety is the spice of life, and some of those removed cards (woodcutter and chancellor) have featured importantly in some very fun games I've played. I know that the reason they're gone is sound - they aren't interesting very often, generally they're pretty much pointless on the board they're on - but in certain cases they can still be fun and important, so I'd want them involved in my randomisation so they could pop up every now and then.
I have very fond memories of winning a game with a treasureless engine of Library/Festival/Chancellor - I wouldn't want that oppurtunity denied to anyone :p
Here's how things look from my perspective: there are also no plans to publish all of the outtakes that weren't good enough. An endless parade of unpublished cards. I have plenty of fond memories there too.
My concern is with all the pre-made sets of 10 from later boxes that include Dominion/Intrigue. Will new copies of later boxes (and, if so, from what date) have pre-sets that work with the 2nd editions of the first two boxes? Will they include both? As someone who is gradually working through all the boxes (I currently have Dominion, Intrigue, Seaside, Prosperity, Cornucopia, and Guilds), I'm worried half my boxes will have suggested sets that work with the 1st editions of Dominion/Intrigue and half with the 2nd editions. That would frustrate me greatly.I do not have any dates. New rulebooks will include recommended sets with the new editions and not with the old editions.
If you want the recommended sets with old cards I imagine the wiki will continue to have them. If you're worried about it you could go to the RGG site now and save the rulebook .pdfs for all the expansions.