I love this idea (I had a similar one before looking at the thread), but it is not fun that you could use this to remove a Moat from your opponent's hand and then attack.
The set aside clause is to limit its power in the late game and prevent infinite an infinite loop with Band of Misfits.
Set aside cards are returned to their owners' hands at the end of the turn.You should probably put that in your card, then.
Gatekeeper (Action)
+5 Cards
Reveal your hand. The player to your left names a card from your hand.
You can't play any copies of that card this turn.
This combines ideas from Envoy and Contraband. It might be weak. You'll probably need a diverse deck to get something out of it.
I think that this will lead to very interesting play. You want a Delegate-thick deck in order to copy their good stuff and deny your opponents your good stuff. But if you exaggerate it or the opponents play money, you are left with too many lousy blue dogs in your deck.
Set aside cards are returned to their owners' hands at the end of the turn. The set aside clause is to limit its power in the late game and prevent infinite an infinite loop with Band of Misfits.
is generally one of the card costs you'd least want to trash with a Remodel variant, since there are so few cards that cost 
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lets you get 
-costs, and lets you get 
-costs, but trashing a usually just gives you the same thing trashing a would, but means that you trashed a better card than necessary.-cost card, and my Promenade was designed with that power level in mind as well.
Thanks, this was really helpful. For now, I'm going to change SoH to this:QuoteDo this up to two times: play an action card from your hand twice. You may put any cards played with this onto your deck when you discard them from play.Changes the order to a simple throned throne, and only schemes the played cards. I will probably change it further, maybe take out the scheming, or take out doing it twice. Thoughts?
(This is not in the Supply.)
It has the accountability issue of first edition Throne Room; although it's also awkward to stick a "may" in there after saying "do this twice". Perhaps "do this up to twice"?
I feel like in general, people are making their prizes way too powerful. Keep in mind the current prizes. Princess gives you +buy and -2 cost (can't be throned). It's good, but not an amazingly powerful card. Bag of gold gives a gold on top of your deck. Nice, but again not game-changing. Trusty steed and followers are great (probably worth $7 or more) but they don't absolutely break the game.
Master of ceremonies has no cost limit or nor supply limit. probably worth at least $8 (and you probably won't have terminal problems)
Craftsman pretty much allows you to gain any card and then play it. it might have diminishing returns, but prizes generally come at the end of the game so you probably won't be able to play it past its use anyway. Again, very very powerful.
Seat of honor can be better than kings court. You can TR 2 cards then top deck seat of honor to do it again next turn.
Winged sandals first option is better than champions (with the only caveat, that it's not permanent). Still way too game changing. Also combined with amulet, this can be crazy.
Prizes are supposed to be good, but they're not supposed to be crazy. Before any of you defend these cards just think; are there really that many situations that you would take a bag of gold, princess, amulet, or even trusty steed over these cards? And would they have the same effect? These cards are not only so good, they can work in almost any situation (unlike followers, which works better if there's no cursing or trashing, but not so good otherwise, or princess which is much better when there's no +buy).
P.S. Maybe it is just me. I just thought I'd put it out there.
I think you must not realize that if Cultivate DOES trigger, it's strictly better than Caravan.
It's a big if though.
Not really. It's a pretty small if in the early game and in the greening stage, so you'd mainly be buying them early, which is when price matters most. I'd say it would be justified at
Even when you do trigger it it isn't strictly better than Caravan, you have to discard the victory.
My take on this is that it's probably too potent in the opening for a $2 cantrip, so I'd start it at $3.
I think you must not realize that if Cultivate DOES trigger, it's strictly better than Caravan.
It's a big if though.
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QuoteCultivate
+1 Card
+1 Action
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At the start of your next turn, you may reveal and discard a victory card from your hand. If you do, +1 Card, + $1.
$2
Action - Duration
This is a way too strong for a $2 card. I believe, this should cost somewhere between $3 and $4.
I doubt it. At best it's nothing this turn and next turn play a victory card as if it were a peddler. That's obviously worse than 4. If you don't have a victory in those 5 cards it's nothing. Absent of decks with nobles or mill or something along those lines, it will probably miss most of the time and these become weaker with each play. The fact that it's a duration also means it will miss the reshuffle more often and be played less often. Also the actual effect (playing a victory card as a peddler) is delayed which always lowers the cost (fishing village, a delayed Bazaar, costs only $3).
That being said, the effects are kind of vanilla. It's kind of plain for a promo.
effect costing just ; by the time you're drawing your entire deck, you've gotten far more out of Armoursmith than can be justified for a mere .
Here's a proposal for Monk: Trash up to 2 cards from your hand, then draw up to 6 cards in hand. When you play a Convert, +1 VP. This stays in play.
This doesn't seem nearly as strong, maybe too weak? Also, maybe Monk should be renamed Abbott, closer to Teacher and Champion. Thoughts?
if it were a Kingdom card. I realize that it has each player start with a Moat Treasure, but that isn't enough to make up for how powerful Banshee is and just nerfs other Attacks as well.
). 2. You should probably place an "and" between the +1 Buy and +
to make it clearer that the three bonuses aren't separate choices.
would already be a really strong , but this is not just strictly better than that, but significantly better. I would price this at at least, or give it some sort of drawback.
or ? The answer depends on whether the Highway's while-in-play effect triggers before or after Scientist's during-your-buy-phase effect. If Highway triggers first, Scientist's price is dropped to then raised to ; if Scientist triggers first, Scientist's price is raised to then dropped to . I would add a parenthetical like "this applies before/after cost reduction" to address this and similar issues.. Traveller, by far. And it has 23 more options than that, if I did my math correctly. And is bottom-decked when you don't exchange it for a Monk. Way too strong for a Traveller, and maybe even too powerful for a Traveller. in it; 2. or +1 Buy, +. 3. While this is KeyringI believe it should put the piles into the "Supply," not the "Kingdom."
Types: Treasure, Duration
Cost: $4
Choose one of the Locked piles. That pile is in the Kingdom while this is in play. Now and at the start of your next turn: +$1, +1 Buy.
Setup: Set aside 3 additional Kingdom piles as Locked piles.
I think this is really weak. Players will often buy it because it is a non-terminal source of +Buy, but if that isn't important, players will receive incredibly similar benefit from it without having to buy a $4 Copper. Point being, this can probably cost $2.
Yes, you're right, "Supply" is better.
I also agree that I made it too expensive, but I think it's definitely too good for $2. It's a Silver, with the minus that some $ is delayed, but the plus of +Buys and giving strategic and tactical options regarding what people can gain. I'll make it $3.
I actually strongly disagree with it costing only. It's very similar to my Travelling Shop, which has been fairly thoroughly playtested by now, and Keyring is enough stronger most of the time that I think it has to cost
You seem to be forgetting that Keyring gives opponents access to the pile as well.
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KeyringI believe it should put the piles into the "Supply," not the "Kingdom."
Types: Treasure, Duration
Cost: $4
Choose one of the Locked piles. That pile is in the Kingdom while this is in play. Now and at the start of your next turn: +$1, +1 Buy.
Setup: Set aside 3 additional Kingdom piles as Locked piles.
I think this is really weak. Players will often buy it because it is a non-terminal source of +Buy, but if that isn't important, players will receive incredibly similar benefit from it without having to buy a $4 Copper. Point being, this can probably cost $2.
Yes, you're right, "Supply" is better.
I also agree that I made it too expensive, but I think it's definitely too good for $2. It's a Silver, with the minus that some $ is delayed, but the plus of +Buys and giving strategic and tactical options regarding what people can gain. I'll make it $3.
. It's very similar to my Travelling Shop, which has been fairly thoroughly playtested by now, and Keyring is enough stronger most of the time that I think it has to cost . (The current version of Travelling Shop puts the Items in the Supply instead of only enabling buying them, but still costs .) The only comparison between the two that is unfavorable towards Keyring is that Keyring only unlocks one of the extra piles, but other than that it's a now and next-turn Travelling Shop.
and added cost limit to prevent OPness in Platinum games.
Here is my submission:
I don't know if it's worded like this but the idea is that you can veto someone's veto, so if I have played a veto, then play a Village, someone else discards a Veto from play to make me play something else, then I can discard my Veto to be able to play my Village.
isn't or less.
Here is my submission:
I wanted to do something that prevented cleaning up your cards. Originally, this didn't clean up any cards (including your hand) but then I realized that was too strong. This can work well with while in play effects (highway, groundskeeper, etc.). This works best if you're not drawing your deck every turn. Also when critiquing, note the downsides if you play this before a reshuffle (all your played cards miss the reshuffle).
To preempt people from saying that this is too strong compared to Outpost consider this: If you get a deck that can work with outpost (guide, or a well trashed deck) you can effectively double your turns for the rest of the game. If you have a deck that can draw settlement every turn then settlement doesn't provide a great benefit, since all your played cards can't be played again. If you can't draw settlement every turn, then while it will give you extra turns, it won't double your turns for the rest of the game.
I feel like its too strong to be priced at $5 without an additional restriction. Like if this read "+5 cards, go back to your Action phase" (which is essentially what its saying) thats like a $6 or $7 card. Maybe add a restriction where if its the second Settlement it does that?
, though. I'd price it at or add an additional restriction.
Another card I couldn't remember/find the OP on, this card died forum-wise among a pricing dispute (was priced at $6, that was too little; priced at $9 was too high; etc) - pricing it with a potion, and making it only able to bury a Victory/Curse when initially playing it seems to even it out a bit.
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This card is probably way too powerful. Comparable to Hireling I think, but cheaper.
