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Rules Questions / Re: Gain Emporium in other player's turn with 5 Durations in play
« on: May 07, 2021, 02:58:12 pm »I take it that the "Action cards in play" for Emporium would include any Falconer, Black Cat, Sheepdog and Village Green played out of turn during the same turn. Is that correct?
If you have the Ferry token on the Patrician/Emporium pile, then a Falconer played as a reaction could gain an Emporium, and count as the 5th Action card in play
Caravan Guard is another card that could work that way
In the context of gaining on another player's turn, though, it would be that player, not you, that would have to have their Ferry token on the Patrician/Emporium pile.This counts Action cards in play, including Action cards played this turn, Duration cards in play from previous turns, and Reserve cards (from Dominion: Adventures) called into play this turn.
Other Rules clarifications:
Since the attempt to gain 2VP (and thus, the check to see how many Actions are in play) has "when-gain" timing, if another effect with "when-gain" timing brings more Actions into play (such as Duplicate being called), the player can choose to resolve the effect bringing the Actions into play first, delaying the attempted VP gain until after those effects are resolved. This can lead to instances where when an Emporium is first gained, fewer than 5 Actions are in play, but the player still gets 2VP, since they have chosen to do so after bringing a sufficient amount of Actions into play. For example, with only four Actions in play, a player could buy an Emporium, choose to call Duplicate first, then gain 2VP (since they now have 5 Actions in play), then another 2VP from the Duplicated Emporium.
I know you're just quoting the wiki, but if we're being precise, this last sentence is not exactly correct, right:QuoteFor example, with only four Actions in play, a player could buy an Emporium, choose to call Duplicate first, then gain 2VP (since they now have 5 Actions in play), then another 2VP from the Duplicated Emporium.
You would:
• buy Emporium
• call Duplicate
• gain a 2nd Emporium
• collect 2VP from the Duplicated Emporium
• gain the bought Emporium
• collect 2VP from the Bought Emporium
The end result is, of course, completely the same.
Duplicate's call is on-gain, not on buy, so you would, in fact, gain the bought Emporium first. You can't call Duplicate yet on step 2 because you haven't gained anything yet.
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