So 4 on Joseph. Are we going to lynch him or do we need to go elsewhere?.
I will be moving my vote elsewhere soon to someone pretty specific if it doesn't gain traction, and I think it should.
Mostly I feel like there are players that just haven't said anything about it. That makes me feel... tingly? But not in a good way. Or maybe I am just nervous about ano-lynch. But that turned out fine last game. Although i think that is the exception cause that game was thumpin weird.
I meant the former and I was maybe overstating a bit. ButI wanted to express that I didn't feel like Scola was actually really on the brink of being lynched. Wagons building out of RVS and a bit non-RVS happens all-the-time and in my (fading) memory it is quite rare for that to go in a monotone way. I.e. I don't think I ever hadAbout Scola, and answering to JosephI mean, I think in no game I ever was the person who got a bunch of votes early on D1 out of RVS got actually lynched, lynches don’t happen that fast. Rather interesting is how fast it evaporated after getting close, that sounds like light evidence for scumI am not completely sure who you are talking about hereExactly, I think that is what's happening. I'm town, scola wagon got far too many votes far too quickly- some scum must have piled onto that, which makes me think it would have been a mislynchADK, swowl and west. You are my biggest town reads, who should we lynch?
I also am interested in Dylan's thoughts.
I would like a joseph lynch, and to avoid a lurker lynch
Super hot take: the longer mail-mi's bit goes on the scummier it gets
problem I have with this mentality is that we are in a stall because skum is the lurking component. Or at least that is what I think. I cannot bring myself to just want to lynch someone simply because lurking, but it should be noted that if the lead wagons have consistently so far been town, skum would likely just sit back and watch.
@Calamitas, I think there's something grammatically weird about your quoted text, which certianly confused me on first reading. Are you saying that in no game that you've ever been in has the person who's gotten a bunch of D1 votes from RVS ever been lynched? Are you characterising the votes on Joseph as coming from RVS, or coming immediately as we pulled out of RVS? I don't think either is entirely accurate, as it was Joseph's questionnably-motivated L-1 game with Scola that then let people justify a bunch of votes on him, and the Scola wagon itself wasn't really RVS either.
This is so super weirdNo I didn't, and I don't want to, because I don't want to put target on anyone's headWhat Joseph did that was scummy wasn't the L-1 part it was the way he did it.This is the scummy post. Joseph did you answer the above question?
This:And that was a joke, so Unvote
is scummier than this:Unvote
Also Joseph did you ever tell us who this was?Some minor point from that 5 minutes of L1: there was one other person viewing this page at the time, and they chose not to hammer. Which makes me feel a little bit more towny about them
The person in question is not being considered for lynching right now
About Scola, and answering to JosephI mean, I think in no game I ever was the person who got a bunch of votes early on D1 out of RVS got actually lynched, lynches don’t happen that fast. Rather interesting is how fast it evaporated after getting close, that sounds like light evidence for scumI am not completely sure who you are talking about here
Exactly, I think that is what's happening. I'm town, scola wagon got far too many votes far too quickly- some scum must have piled onto that, which makes me think it would have been a mislynchADK, swowl and west. You are my biggest town reads, who should we lynch?
I also am interested in Dylan's thoughts.
I would like a joseph lynch, and to avoid a lurker lynch
Super hot take: the longer mail-mi's bit goes on the scummier it gets
problem I have with this mentality is that we are in a stall because skum is the lurking component. Or at least that is what I think. I cannot bring myself to just want to lynch someone simply because lurking, but it should be noted that if the lead wagons have consistently so far been town, skum would likely just sit back and watch.
Just let me know what time in forum time and I’ll probably be there.Woo <3
I'm inhey! so, Saturday is already tomorrow (Today for me), do we want to consolidate? if we make a call during our daytime or evening, I can do sunday as well, but I have a game of Dominion at 23UTC.
Would you/Calamitas/early US people be interested in some kind of video chat earlier on the Sunday, like noon forum time or something?
Former, but let’s defer this discussion to a later timeI really don't like you being so open about this
The fact that I (and presumably you?) have the capability to do it, or the fact that I'm refusing to post the marginals Joseph wanted on the grounds that they're probably more useful to scum than to town?
PPE 1: @scola, are you a probabilities person too?
I really don't like you being so open about thisCan you work out the probabilities and expected number of each PR in the game?
I have a list from 3.5 years ago of each possible role combination, along with the likelihood of each one being roled, and the number of ways each combination could end up occurring (e.g. several ways because of the "W" rolls). Assuming I was correct back then, and that this set-up is the same as that one, then I can indeed work out all sorts of probability-based things with very little extra effort :-)
The fun things to do are to look at how likely various claims are, and to look at how compatible different pairs/combinations of claims are. The conditional probability of role X existing given what we know publicly from flips and privately from our own roles is pretty useful, so I think I'll keep from spamming the thread too early on with useless marginal probabilities that are probably most interesting for scum who want to breadcrumb a fakeclaim early.
big promise!Ok, really the only people who haven't commented directly on Joseph and/or his wagon are e, Space, and Calamitas, and I'm inclined to think that's as much due to their inactivity (>24 hours since last post for all 3) than to any intentional ignoring.
Mine is partly due to intentional ignoring. I can never really pass up a reason to vote Joseph, but I'm trying to be a better person.
As for Calamitas, perhaps I'm finally in a game again with the one person around here who's still less fond of making D1 reads than I am :-P I'm sure if we get a good converastion on probabilities of role distributions going, Camamitas and I will have a lot more to contribute...
Flashbacks incomingWhy no number for voting Joseph?
I'm sorry, Joseph is not a menu option. He is acting like himself, which is decidedly null. Please press 4 to listen to the menu again, or state which option you would like.
I agree that Joseph's behaviour is very Joseph-like, rather than being necessarily role-indicative. That doesn't necessarily make him a bad lynch for D1.
OK, I get it - I see how my RVS vote can be seen as scummy as it was the 3rd vote on someone and could be seen as trying to start a wagon. Honestly, and I'm running out of games were I can use thus as an excuse, I'm still learning how D1s go with this group. Past games, I decided not to vote any early, with no real info; for this game I decided to get in on the fun. Didn't realize it would start a wagon.It is not strongly defensive but slightly more than I expected (you actually reacted to the vote), as I said not enough to justify L-2.
But I wouldn't blame people to vote me for it. I get that. I do think it did form fairly fast which means there's got to be some scum on my wagon, hoping to take advantage of beginner's ignorance. So if I do end up getting lynched, you guys will have some good leads, I hope.
I will say I whole heartedly disagree that this: "That's what I get for joining in the RVS!
So, I'm ok with a:
vote: calamites
Also, mail-mi: Cinco, por favor.
yeah, but no one would ever do that. But if you thought that were plausible, why did you then risk it by puttig scola (he?she?they?) on L-1 ?They could claim it were an accidentSome minor point from that 5 minutes of L1: there was one other person viewing this page at the time, and they chose not to hammer. Which makes me feel a little bit more towny about themthis doesn’t make sense, hammering would be just wtf here. No scum player is actually that bad
Some minor point from that 5 minutes of L1: there was one other person viewing this page at the time, and they chose not to hammer. Which makes me feel a little bit more towny about themthis doesn’t make sense, hammering would be just wtf here. No scum player is actually that bad
referred to that oneEveryone game Joseph has referred to himself in the 3rd person, he's not town.
vote: joseph
Slightly scummy.
Vote: scolapasta
That's what I get for joining in the RVS!
I first didn’t like his previous quite defensive post and them he did that so I made the vote.Everyone game Joseph has referred to himself in the 3rd person, he's not town.Joseph usually does this most games
vote: joseph
I know - it was a joke (though technically true of all the games of played with you - both of them!)
What up folks? Man this lineup feels like a throw back to when I first showed up to f.ds. Welcome back Calamitas. And hi to everyone I haven't played with for a while (e and Space notably)!Feels a bit like you are overexplaining that vote here vote: dylan
Vote: LL. I started last game with a vote on him, and ended up with a good win. Let's keep that streak going.
Then I'm always scum on Telegram ;-)You were clearly not here in the official peak of forum mafiaI missed you Joseph
vote: calamitas I don't think I've played with you before
emojis are scummy
You were clearly not here in the official peak of forum mafiaI missed you Joseph
vote: calamitas I don't think I've played with you before
Vote: ADK<3
I want Calamitas alive at least long enough to do all the obsessive role inference stuff with me :-P
vote: Joseph
