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Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Dominion: Greed (beta)
« on: June 26, 2015, 06:29:36 am »
What if next cards are released with "You must buy a X if possible" ? What if it conflicts ?

(assume there's another card X that costs $2 and grants you $3 and forces you to buy ; you play a village -> Usurer ($4) -> StoryTeller ($0) -> X ($3) : you'd have to buy an Usurer and a X for $3)

EDIT :
I suggest that :
"At the start of your buy phase, gain an Usurer" or "before you buy anything, spend 1 buy and $2. If you do, gain an Usurer", but it's pretty tough wording in fact...

By the way I don't see the difference between this and Woodcutter except that you've 1 more buy and it's complicated while Woodcutter is terrible, but simple ! (at least you can buy it for only $2 if you have $6 and several buys)
The wording is very tough, especially when, as Co0kieL0rd notes, we're not 100% on the intended behaviour.  I'm not convinced by any wording so far, particularly in the possible case of conflict, as you point out.  How about this:

"At the end of your buy phase this turn, if you did not buy an Usurer, return all bought cards to the supply."
That's with Co0kieL0rd's interpretation of not allowing 5s if you collect exactly 5.

With my interpretation:
"If you have $6 at any point during your buy phase this turn, then at the end of your buy phase, if you did not buy an Usurer this turn, return all bought cards to the supply."

It's messy, but the only way I can think of to resolve both the conflict issue and the "Oh but I've spent all of my money, totally can't buy an Usurer" issue.

In the case of conflict, if you can't afford to buy both then you're screwed.  But as far as I can see that's your own bloody fault.

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Is Refugees really a $6 cost? I'm not so sure about this one. Also, you have to spend an Action token to use it? What if you don't have any ways of getting Action tokens in the game? Then this is worse than Scout.
Probably worth clarifying this; when I read it I assumed it meant spend an Action, as in reduce my Actions count by one.  Rather than spending a token.  Which obviously makes it much better.  But the wording isn't exactly clear.

Also, picky picky, but Blacksmith/Smithy might be a bit similar. EDIT: Not in what they DO, obviously.  Just in name; arguably blacksmith and smithy are synonyms.

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Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Dominion: Greed (beta)
« on: June 26, 2015, 05:38:29 am »
Usurer's wording seems problematic. When you have Usurers in play you could just buy cards until you have no money left and then say, I'm not able to buy a Usurer. It could say instead, "The first card you buy this turn must be an Usurer", to prevent any loopholes.
  "...must be an Usurer if possible."  I think that addition is necessary; I don't think the intended behaviour is to stop you buying 5s if you have exactly 5.

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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: Dominion Zendo!
« on: June 26, 2015, 04:27:21 am »
RULE GUESS: Cards that are strictly worse than Scout.
:D Very good.

Seriously, though, no; for instance Lost City is a yes. 

3405
Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: Dominion Zendo!
« on: June 25, 2015, 06:36:48 pm »
Market Square? Yes
Death Cart? No

3406
One is a lack of understanding of Windows file location best practices; the other is likely an artifact of a much earlier development step.
Well sure, but both still need fixing.

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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: Dominion Zendo!
« on: June 24, 2015, 05:52:47 pm »
Can somebody recap the current round's answers? No
Is there any reason why not?  It's not against the rules, right?

I was just making a joke.
I understood, but wanted to be careful, just to avoid a horrible faux pas.

3408
Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: Dominion Zendo!
« on: June 24, 2015, 05:47:55 pm »
Can somebody recap the current round's answers? No
Is there any reason why not?  It's not against the rules, right?  I'm happy to summarise:  (Spoiler tags in case it IS against the rules...)


Sea Hag? Yes
Curse? No
Jester? No
Counting House? Yes
Throne Room? No
Saboteur? No
Trader? Yes
Baron? No
RULE GUESS: Cards with no multipliers.  No - Counterexample: Bureaucrat is No.
Moat? No
Apprentice? No
RULE GUESS: "Funny things with Supply cards".  No - Counterexample: Beggar is No.
Tunnel? No
Nobles? Yes
Fishing Village? No
Counterfeit? Yes
Mountebank? No


Sea Hag is really throwing me here.
Sea Hag nearly threw me; I had to double check it, but it is definitely a yes.  So if that's the only thing stopping you from guessing a rule I suggest you guess the rule anyway! :P

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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: Dominion Zendo!
« on: June 24, 2015, 05:11:14 pm »
Counterfeit? Yes
Mountebank? No

3410
Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: Dominion Zendo!
« on: June 23, 2015, 02:39:53 pm »
Tunnel? No
Nobles? Yes
Fishing Village? No

3411
Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: Dominion Zendo!
« on: June 23, 2015, 09:55:19 am »
Cards not containing numbers or multipliers except "a" or "an"? Most would just be "no number", but TR has "twice"...
No. Bureaucrat is a no.

Moat? No
Apprentice? No

Cards that do odd things with Supply cards?
I'm sure that that could be defined better but we have:
gain Curse to top of deck
Copper from discard to hand
gain Silver instead of another card
Nice idea but no. A counterexample is Beggar, which is a no.

3412
Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: Dominion Zendo!
« on: June 19, 2015, 07:37:31 pm »
Trader? Yes
Baron? No

3413
Hearthstone / Re: Tavern Brawl Discussion
« on: June 19, 2015, 07:32:49 pm »
Seems to me, if Rag makes it to the late game he just flat out wins, but that's pretty tough to do, and very sensitive to starting hands...

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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: Dominion Zendo!
« on: June 19, 2015, 06:49:33 pm »
Curse? No
Jester? No
Counting House? Yes
Throne Room? No
Saboteur? No

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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: Dominion Zendo!
« on: June 19, 2015, 01:19:49 pm »
Sea Hag? Yes

3416
Hearthstone / Re: Re: Has anyone learned Hearthstone yet?
« on: June 19, 2015, 08:05:17 am »
Nozdormu seems way better than Rag.

Only he is Nefarian. And probably yes, although my only loss is using him (Nefarian: 4-1, Rag: 1-0)
I lost my first Rag game, won the second, and have only been Nefarian since.  Is it a "Win with Rag, graduate to Nefarian" type deal?  Seems odd if so; anyone able to contradict that hypothesis?

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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: Dominion Zendo!
« on: June 19, 2015, 07:28:24 am »
Cards that have the +(1) coin symbol (or perhaps more generally any +coin symbol) somewhere on them.

Yes. (more generally any coin symbol, + or otherwise.)
Got there eventually.

My turn then, right?
I have a rule.

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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: Dominion Zendo!
« on: June 19, 2015, 06:43:47 am »
Cards that have the +(1) coin symbol (or perhaps more generally any +coin symbol) somewhere on them.

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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: Dominion Zendo!
« on: June 19, 2015, 05:13:45 am »
Bridge?
Forge?

After this im out of ideas.

3420
Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: Dominion Zendo!
« on: June 18, 2015, 08:26:36 pm »
OK. New tack required.

Masquerade?
village?

3421
Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: Dominion Zendo!
« on: June 18, 2015, 07:43:52 pm »
Cards that have no strategy article on the wiki?

That's not the rule. How can I find out which cards have a strategy article on the wiki?
By looking on the wiki?  I dunno, I'm desperately struggling here! :P

Each card individually?
Well I don't know how committed you are to this.  Maybe.

Anyway.  I've just realised it's probably:
Cards with the letter 'D' in them  (in capitals?)

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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: Dominion Zendo!
« on: June 18, 2015, 07:05:41 pm »
Cards that have no strategy article on the wiki?

That's not the rule. How can I find out which cards have a strategy article on the wiki?
By looking on the wiki?  I dunno, I'm desperately struggling here! :P

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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: Dominion Zendo!
« on: June 18, 2015, 06:54:18 pm »
Cards that have no strategy article on the wiki?

3424
Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: Dominion Zendo!
« on: June 18, 2015, 12:25:32 pm »
Cards that can trash cards?
Dang it.  Ninja'd.

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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: Dominion Zendo!
« on: June 18, 2015, 10:45:03 am »
Junk Dealer?
Survivors?

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