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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 04, 2015, 02:05:21 pm »
So we still have mail-mi, TA, and IG not voting. And considering IG is IC, he should probably get on that.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 04, 2015, 02:04:00 pm »I think I want to
vote: TA
A lie is a lie.
But gosh. It is a tough decision today.
Why switch from Hydrad? It is clear that he is also lying. His role would have no benefit
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 04, 2015, 01:35:25 pm »
So if TA is telling the truth, do you guys think it will be hard to kill ruin without TA? Also TA, what is your wincon?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 04, 2015, 12:41:54 pm »Yeah I absolutely trust gkrieg at this point, and therefore Ichi.
I don't know what to say about why I claimed I had no night action N3 -- I was out and typing on mobile and really don't know the thought process I said. It's possible I meant I didn't burn metal (because I didn't), but I really don't have a defense for it at this point honestly.
The only reason why I don't believe you is because you used the argument of not taking an action to put me at L-1. That seems super scummy to me.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 04, 2015, 12:21:00 pm »We have two types of kills, apparently affected differently by roles, so two killing factions makes sense. You claiming to kill EFHW with a coin but not Faust is suspicious. Honestly, you're the best candidate for Ruin.How could I be lying at this point, XP said that his lover was survivor-aligned, and no one else has counterclaimed me.
Scum!TA could easily be telling the truth about his role.
I can see TA or Hydrad lying. I also think one of the VTs aren't a VT. I'm leaning hockey at this point.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia Championship Season 2
« on: August 04, 2015, 11:47:20 am »
/tag
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 04, 2015, 11:46:18 am »
So WW, do you think we have a third scum and a third party ruin?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 04, 2015, 11:42:36 am »Oh that makes sense. The redirect would only work for metals burning though. So he died from a different kind of kill. Got it.What would be the plus of a town lightning rod?
Well, he could redirect both kill and protection, resulting in no night kill. Notably, Silver wasn't killed by a coin; it's possible he redirected a coin kill and a protection against coin kills (Chairs seems to be suggesting that).
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 04, 2015, 11:38:20 am »And by protect, I mean redirect investigation.Okay? It still looks bad for TA. He either is scum for burning metal, or the low odds of SS using his ability on TA happens. I don't know if I'm using the phrase correctly, but Occham's Razor comes to my mind.
I don't think SS's ability is targeted. Both EFHW and TA showed as burning the metal.
If TA were scum, he could have burned iron to protect EFHW while she committed a kill.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 04, 2015, 11:37:56 am »Okay? It still looks bad for TA. He either is scum for burning metal, or the low odds of SS using his ability on TA happens. I don't know if I'm using the phrase correctly, but Occham's Razor comes to my mind.
I don't think SS's ability is targeted. Both EFHW and TA showed as burning the metal.
If TA were scum, he could have burned iron to protect EFHW while she committed a kill.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 04, 2015, 11:36:49 am »If that's true, then perhaps no one is clean now. So now I'm a suspect again, along with everyone else Gkraig checked. Hrmm..
If Gkreig is telling the truth, and my guess is correct, then Silver could have only used it Night 3, else he would have gotten the same result every night.
This is my guess as well. I also investigated ss on the first night and got no metals detected, meaning he didn't use it the first night. Also if he had used it the first night, he would have died in place of Faust.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 04, 2015, 11:34:30 am »
What would be the plus of a town lightning rod?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 04, 2015, 11:32:54 am »Nevertheless, TA claimed to not take an action and then claimed to take an action.
This is the most incriminating evidence.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 03, 2015, 11:57:45 pm »@chairs why do you think your N2 doctoring of UoS didn't work?
This is actually why I'm sure a specific line in my role indicates multiple kill causes
Ya I think the allomantic power kills with a coin.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 03, 2015, 10:58:31 pm »I recall almost nothing of note about hockey...so that's bad. WW can be pretty devious, so there's always a check I have about him.
EFHW seemed a bit like she was buddying me at the end of this last day, so I'm a bit wary of anyone doing the same.
Other than that, I should probably reread, keeping in mind the flips we've had and the claims now. I know there was that thing with TA's claim about not targeting anyone N3 was it? But now he says he did target someone. And yeah looking back, WW pointed it out, but it looks like he never responded. That's notable.
I think that's the main argument against him.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 03, 2015, 08:45:11 pm »Hmm. I'd like to hear a bit more from Hydrad. I don't think he's particularly townie, but he's just so easy to mislynch.
Agreed. Who do you think is scum?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 03, 2015, 02:16:22 pm »If the VTs aren't scum, who is then?unvote . i missed the timing on gkrieg's claim, which i realize after he clarified. on mobile the next couple of days
How likely do you think 7 VTs in this setup is?
and what about Hydrad's claim?
I don't think I see a problem with that many VTs. I don't have a guess as to how many there would be, any guess just seems kinda arbitrary. I'd guess one is false just because of the difficulty of good fake claims, not the number.
I'd rather lynch mail-Mi than hydrad. Hydrad sheeps as town but I don't know how likely he is to bus E at a key point on that wagon.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 03, 2015, 12:49:15 pm »
@chairs why do you think your N2 doctoring of UoS didn't work?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 03, 2015, 12:45:44 pm »I think only the lord ruler and I can burn metals. At least no one has told me differently. That would mean someone decided to redirect both TA and EFHW, or one of them redirected the other.
I don't believe this. Ghacob flipping Thug in this flavor strongly suggests he could burn Pewter.
Actually, to all the claimants: Does your role involve burning metal?
Also, gkrieg, can you burn more than one metal?
What do you think burning pewter would do?
In the book it enhances physical strength. My guess would be a bulletproof shot or something like that.
ok. It looks like a lurcher, is someone who burns iron (redirect metal). That means he could have done the redirecting N3
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 03, 2015, 12:33:21 pm »I think only the lord ruler and I can burn metals. At least no one has told me differently. That would mean someone decided to redirect both TA and EFHW, or one of them redirected the other.
I don't believe this. Ghacob flipping Thug in this flavor strongly suggests he could burn Pewter.
Actually, to all the claimants: Does your role involve burning metal?
Also, gkrieg, can you burn more than one metal?
What do you think burning pewter would do?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 03, 2015, 12:32:09 pm »I think only the lord ruler and I can burn metals. At least no one has told me differently. That would mean someone decided to redirect both TA and EFHW, or one of them redirected the other.
I don't believe this. Ghacob flipping Thug in this flavor strongly suggests he could burn Pewter.
Actually, to all the claimants: Does your role involve burning metal?
Also, gkrieg, can you burn more than one metal?
I assumed that because I asked if anyone else could burn metals and no one said anything. I can burn more than one metal. I already said I could burn steel (vig), and bronze (find out which metals people burned).
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 03, 2015, 10:28:38 am »
Also just a theory: the voice is the double voter. So we need to watch out still for a mafia double voter.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 03, 2015, 09:12:58 am »
I think only the lord ruler and I can burn metals. At least no one has told me differently. That would mean someone decided to redirect both TA and EFHW, or one of them redirected the other.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 02, 2015, 01:42:04 pm »unvote . i missed the timing on gkrieg's claim, which i realize after he clarified. on mobile the next couple of days
How likely do you think 7 VTs in this setup is?
and what about Hydrad's claim?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM26: Mistborn Mafia (Day 5)
« on: August 02, 2015, 01:18:46 pm »
So if everyone is claiming the truth (which they obviously aren't), we would have 7 VTs, 2 lovers, 1 modified doctor, 1 ruin hunter, 1 roleblocker, 1 survivor lurcher, 1 survivor thug, Hydrad ( I don't know what to call your role), 2 scum(Lord Ruler). But TA claims there is a (probably 3rd party) named ruin. Ruin probably has a killing role because otherwise someone would have claimed ruin. Hydrad claims there is a third scum named the voice, which sounds like it would be part of the Lord Ruler.
So my guess would be that of the 9 left alive, we have 1 lover, 1 modified doctor, one roleblocker, the voice (scum), ruin(3rd party is my guess), maybe 2 or 3 VTs, and TA is telling the truth?
Anyway, I think Hydrad is lying, only because his role doesn't make sense, because as long as I didn't miss anything, no one else can use that information, as far as people have claimed.
vote: Hydrad
So my guess would be that of the 9 left alive, we have 1 lover, 1 modified doctor, one roleblocker, the voice (scum), ruin(3rd party is my guess), maybe 2 or 3 VTs, and TA is telling the truth?
Anyway, I think Hydrad is lying, only because his role doesn't make sense, because as long as I didn't miss anything, no one else can use that information, as far as people have claimed.
vote: Hydrad