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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM20: Dark Ages Insanity (Signups Open)
« on: May 06, 2015, 07:34:53 pm »
You were born in the year 2302, that far I've gotten. But is it AD. or B.C.?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM20: Dark Ages Insanity (Signups Open)
« on: May 06, 2015, 07:25:56 pm »
I think we've exhausted all possibilities. I give up
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM20: Dark Ages Insanity (Signups Open)
« on: May 06, 2015, 06:26:18 pm »it means an eph2302 belonging to multiple josAlmost, but not quite.Ooh, I wonder if anyone can guess what my name means?
It means an Eph2302 belonging to a Jo.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM20: Dark Ages Insanity (Signups Open)
« on: May 06, 2015, 03:00:32 pm »
Then again, maybe it's a pawn beloning to multiple silvers, in which case it's silvers'pawn
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM20: Dark Ages Insanity (Signups Open)
« on: May 06, 2015, 02:50:35 pm »from now on I will be referring to him as silver'spawnAlso, I've been wondering, what is a silverspawn?
It's a Pawn belonging to a Silver.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM20: Dark Ages Insanity (Signups Open)
« on: May 06, 2015, 01:36:37 pm »
Also, I've been wondering, what is a silverspawn?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM20: Dark Ages Insanity (Signups Open)
« on: May 06, 2015, 01:35:43 pm »Presenting an argument for me being scum and then not voting for me seems like scum not willing to commit. vote:ss
Every player will have some kind of PR.
reading setups before the game starts is a scum tell.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM20: Dark Ages Insanity (Signups Open)
« on: May 06, 2015, 11:49:35 am »
Every player will have some kind of PR.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM20: Dark Ages Insanity (Signups Open)
« on: May 06, 2015, 09:50:30 am »
Alright /in then! Thx
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: BM20: Dark Ages Insanity (Signups Open)
« on: May 06, 2015, 02:20:04 am »
Ok so I basically understand how mafia works after reading through a bunch of the game logs, but have no idea how this particular game works and it looks way more complicated. ive never played b4 but I'd like to join cuz hey why not, but I wouldn't want to ruin everyone else's fun by being completely clueless. If I understand correctly ppl dont care about winning as much in whatever bastard mafia is. So im inclined to join, if thats ok?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM25: Buffy/Angel Mafia (signups open)
« on: May 04, 2015, 10:57:20 pm »
/tag for now
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Rules Questions / Re: +Card token and when-you-play
« on: April 30, 2015, 01:32:37 am »
Efynet, I understand tr does not see bom in play anymore, Im jst not sure y that matters, unless, as ajd says, donald changed how tr works
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Rules Questions / Re: +Card token and when-you-play
« on: April 30, 2015, 01:29:47 am »Shouldn't tr store the information that the card it's playing is a band of misfits and not a scout?
Why should it do this?
(Donald's original ruling was yes, it did this. But there's nothing in the game rules that states that Throne Room should be able to do that, so I prefer the revised ruling.)
Did donald revise this bit? I must have missed that. Could you point out where this happened?
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Rules Questions / Re: +Card token and when-you-play
« on: April 30, 2015, 01:10:56 am »
Ah so ajd and the rest of u guys r saying that since the band is NOW a scout, tr plays that a second time. I guess I originally thought if tr played band the first time, tr could play it again even if it doesnt anymore exist. Im starting to understand but im still not convinced. Shouldn't tr store the information that the card it's playing is a band of misfits and not a scout?
Another way to put this is: if I actually play a band of misfits, then that means choosing a card for bom to turn into and then actually becoming that card is part of the action I do, thats what is included in playing a bom. So dont I get to do that twice? I did it once, now im a scout. Great but the card I throned was a bom and part of playing bom is choosing a card and becoming it so let me do that action again.
Sorry if it seems like we're going in circles, I just want to understand what im missing. Am I the only one who thinks it should work this way?
Another way to put this is: if I actually play a band of misfits, then that means choosing a card for bom to turn into and then actually becoming that card is part of the action I do, thats what is included in playing a bom. So dont I get to do that twice? I did it once, now im a scout. Great but the card I throned was a bom and part of playing bom is choosing a card and becoming it so let me do that action again.
Sorry if it seems like we're going in circles, I just want to understand what im missing. Am I the only one who thinks it should work this way?
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Rules Questions / Re: +Card token and when-you-play
« on: April 30, 2015, 12:16:48 am »
In the post from donald I quoted he admitted that tr-bom-feast might work like this. Im not sure y that would be different for tr-bom-anything. Is it because in the former the card is now in the trash? Y does that matter?
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Rules Questions / Re: +Card token and when-you-play
« on: April 30, 2015, 12:12:44 am »Before reading this thread I assumed that you never actually play Bom. Therefore, if u throne it, u pick a target to emulate and play that twice. But now that u actually play BoM, then play it as another card, y shouldn't tr play the bom twice? Even if it's already a militia, or wtvr, tr still locked in to what was originally played, which is a BoM.
Im not sure y u brought in feast; that isnt really relevant to what im saying, I think
Throne Room isn't locking in anything. Throne Room says "Choose a card, play it twice." You choose Band of Misfits. Throne Room plays Band of Misfits, which turns into a another card. Throne Room plays the card you chose again, but now it's a different card. It is not a Band of Misfits. "This is that card until it leaves play." If you Throne Room a Band of Misfits, you only play Band of Misfits once.
But y should tr play the card band of misfits turns into? it should play the card it played the first time, which is a band of misfits. Wats the difference if the band of misfits looks like a militia, it was a band when it was actually played. I would understand if it turned into a militia before it was played due to tr, then u would play a militia again. But if u irst play a band, then choose militia, I dont c y the tr shouldn't play the band again and allow u to choose another card.
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Rules Questions / Re: +Card token and when-you-play
« on: April 30, 2015, 12:05:48 am »So hum have we reached any conclusion about anything? Or at least about what we haven't reached a conclusion about? I feel like I am reading the same arguments again and again, with no end in sight.
It sounds like donald is saying that wen u play BoM, ur playing BoM and also playing the card u chose in the supply. Therefore he overturned a previous ruling that stated that conspirator counts BoM as one action. It now counts as two.
Also, this whole BoM actually being played thing, would explain the bonuses from the adventures tokens and would mean champion gives u an extra action, the latter only matters for diadem as far as I can tell.
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Rules Questions / Re: +Card token and when-you-play
« on: April 29, 2015, 11:51:30 pm »But, if you are actually playing the BoM, then:4. Ruling: BoM is never played, rather the card you chose is played. This means you chose the card before-play. It means Conspirator counts one played Action.The rulebook refers to "playing" Band of Misfits. So you clearly played that.
4: I think most people would think you only played one card with BoM. It doesn't tell you to play another card like TR or Golem. And there's just one physical card that hit the table.
Let's say I BoM a Militia. Can you Moat it? Yes, you better be able to Moat that. So, Militia was played. You played both cards.
Conspirator is a confusing case; obv. I am sad it doesn't just count Action cards in play like Peddler. Conspirator counts Actions, not "cards," which helps a little; two Actions were played, BoM and whatever. So, Conspirator sees "I played BoM as Village" as "I played two Actions." A rulings reversal.
I am still happy with my ruling on the tokens, you should get tokens for both, which leads to getting one for BoM and two for the other card when Throning.
There remains the weird special case for Throne - BoM - Feast. Possibly I should drop it; the people who are never guessing how it works are never seeing it either. I guess there's still the chance to make the call as to what it means to play a card that instantly stops being itself; maybe that's fine, it still does everything, therefore Throne - BoM - Feast means you choose the second time and successfully play whatever you picked.
A) the ruling on the tr-BoM is problematic because if im playing the BoM, then the throne room should lock in, playing it again a second time and i should be able to choose a different card, and
B) the token ruling for tr-Bom is also problematic because the tr should play BoM twice and give me the BoM bonus twice.
I think jeebus was saying this earlier
But once in play, Band of Misfits is no longer Band of Misfits. The text on the card has changed, and Throne Room is now playing whatever it has turned into, and not Band of Misfits. Throning a Feast doesn't change the text on the card; Throning a Band of Misfits does.
Before reading this thread I assumed that you never actually play Bom. Therefore, if u throne it, u pick a target to emulate and play that twice. But now that u actually play BoM, then play it as another card, y shouldn't tr play the bom twice? Even if it's already a militia, or wtvr, tr still locked in to what was originally played, which is a BoM.
Im not sure y u brought in feast; that isnt really relevant to what im saying, I think
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Rules Questions / Re: +Card token and when-you-play
« on: April 29, 2015, 11:32:51 pm »But, if you are actually playing the BoM, then:4. Ruling: BoM is never played, rather the card you chose is played. This means you chose the card before-play. It means Conspirator counts one played Action.The rulebook refers to "playing" Band of Misfits. So you clearly played that.
4: I think most people would think you only played one card with BoM. It doesn't tell you to play another card like TR or Golem. And there's just one physical card that hit the table.
Let's say I BoM a Militia. Can you Moat it? Yes, you better be able to Moat that. So, Militia was played. You played both cards.
Conspirator is a confusing case; obv. I am sad it doesn't just count Action cards in play like Peddler. Conspirator counts Actions, not "cards," which helps a little; two Actions were played, BoM and whatever. So, Conspirator sees "I played BoM as Village" as "I played two Actions." A rulings reversal.
I am still happy with my ruling on the tokens, you should get tokens for both, which leads to getting one for BoM and two for the other card when Throning.
There remains the weird special case for Throne - BoM - Feast. Possibly I should drop it; the people who are never guessing how it works are never seeing it either. I guess there's still the chance to make the call as to what it means to play a card that instantly stops being itself; maybe that's fine, it still does everything, therefore Throne - BoM - Feast means you choose the second time and successfully play whatever you picked.
A) the ruling on the tr-BoM is problematic because if im playing the BoM, then the throne room should lock in, playing it again a second time and i should be able to choose a different card, and
B) the token ruling for tr-Bom is also problematic because the tr should play BoM twice and give me the BoM bonus twice.
I think jeebus was saying this earlier