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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 2)
« on: September 21, 2021, 08:14:30 pm »
Vote: faust
*snip*
I guess if you are saying that the MiX/WCD votes had more to do with it, I can somewhat see your logic. But then why not say, I voted there because I was sheeping my TRs? Instead you make it about which wagon is sKummier.
What? That is literally exactly the language I when first asked about all this.Pretty much the people on the wagons. I was/am way more suspicious of the people on Math than I was on Joth. I wanted an exile to happen so I needed to move from efoo. So I sheeped the one with more of my TRs
I just think it is suspicious to start right away with a vote. But I guess it can be a difference of playstyle. The only day where I usually vote early is D1 (out of necessity.) I try to delay voting D2 until at the very least everyone has posted because there can always be results and results can inform things. A vote is for an exile. So why would you want to push an exile before you have all the possible relevant information?
Because I won't ever have all the relevant information. I want to create more of it, and voting helps with that.
Ok, well, yesterday you thought Math was town and I thought you were wrong. Today, I still think you are wrong. Or, maybe you are scum.
What have we learned about thinking each other's wrong?
That's right. Everyone is wrong. So what does that matter?
I just think it is suspicious to start right away with a vote. But I guess it can be a difference of playstyle. The only day where I usually vote early is D1 (out of necessity.) I try to delay voting D2 until at the very least everyone has posted because there can always be results and results can inform things. A vote is for an exile. So why would you want to push an exile before you have all the possible relevant information?
Because I won't ever have all the relevant information. I want to create more of it, and voting helps with that.
Ok, I see you say that you had more townreads on the Joth wagon than the Math wagon.
@Swowl Who was scummy on the Math wagon and who was towny on the Joth wagon that made you pick Joth over Math EoD1?
I have already mentioned that WCD and MiX are my TRs on the Joth wagon.
I have already mentioned that I think Jimmm is town, from the Math wagon.
I have not mentioned that I think you are moderately skummy so far this game.
Those would be my big three.
ppe - tons of faust
Ok, I keep tripping over this and it's not because of OMGUS. I don't know if it really checks out.
TR on WCD - sure, whatever. She gets those.
TR on MiX?
And then you say you voted Joth over Math because I was voting Math and you don't trust me.
First of all, why? You ignored me yesterday for one.
Also, IIRC I was already voting Math when you first called Math scummy, so why didn't my scumminess enter into your calculus at the the time you first read him?
1. I would rather not go into why I think this is Town!MiX (that is not a crumb, it is reads based). But yeah... town mix.
2. My skummy read on you, which I did make sure to put "moderately" in front of, is also based on more gut than anything else.
3. I don't get your IIRC comment. You were voting Math. I thought you were kinda acting skummy. That deterred me from voting Math.
If it helps, the town reads on MiX and WCD weighed far heavier into my decision then my skum reads in the other direction.
It must needs be remarked that MiX has rudely ignored this question.This is literally town!math being the D1 exile.
And now you vote Math. What changed your mind?
I think he's scummy.
I actually had time to reread him at night.
How is it that you make up your mind so quickly? Don't you care what other people say on day 2??
Night time is 2 days, I think it's reasonable to get a read like "I think he's scummy".
Yes I care about what people say, which is why I haven't explained why I scumread him.
I got you, iguana. MiX is being very town MiX!
Iguana, I understand you can't fathom having a townread on me, but others can.
Ok, I see you say that you had more townreads on the Joth wagon than the Math wagon.
@Swowl Who was scummy on the Math wagon and who was towny on the Joth wagon that made you pick Joth over Math EoD1?
I have already mentioned that WCD and MiX are my TRs on the Joth wagon.
I have already mentioned that I think Jimmm is town, from the Math wagon.
I have not mentioned that I think you are moderately skummy so far this game.
Those would be my big three.
ppe - tons of faust
What a waste of time.
Jimmmmm, why can't we focus on the wagons first for the sole reason people scumread them?
Well, Town also wants to make sure the other guy is exiled.
faust's case makes a ton of sense, but it's faust and he literally always convinces me, even when he's scum.
Joth's case is not super convincing. It's basically, let's sheep Lalight. But I townread Joth for more of the day yesterday, and I still am not seeing it now.
This is all making me even more frustrated that I didn't manage to get my vote to Joth yesterday. If we knew Joth's alignment right now, this whole day could be very different and we would know whether to be looking at the people who were partnery with him or the people who drove his exile.
I am very much not sorted right now and suspicious of everyone who came in and voted right away before any discussion.
It must needs be remarked that MiX has rudely ignored this question.This is literally town!math being the D1 exile.
And now you vote Math. What changed your mind?
I think he's scummy.
I actually had time to reread him at night.
Mainly because I preferred Joth yesterday. And as nothing has changed I still prefer him today.
I had you down as Townreading joth?TLDR; I think Joth is playing too skummy to actually be skum. What am I missing here?
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TLDRX2; IDK. Almost everything there makes me want to say Joth is skummy af. The thing is... I also just don't think that Joth like... does that as skum. Especially after opening the game they way they did. I am trying to talk myself into skum, but I have to really try so I think I am a no go on Joth today.
And then you didn't mention him again for the Day other than joining his wagon in lieu of an EFHW exile.
I just re-read all of LaLight's 27 posts.
Basically he was pushing pretty hard for MiX and faust.
So let's go from that pool.
I know, I know, WIFOM, but we never actually sheep the dead's reads so scum won't have counted on us doing it.
Also either of those flips are going to be pretty informational.
vote: MiX
The normal argument that we know more now than they did when they died doesn't really apply here because of the nexile, but also, don't you have your own reads?
Well sure but LaLight’s an IC.
I just re-read all of LaLight's 27 posts.
Basically he was pushing pretty hard for MiX and faust.
So let's go from that pool.
I know, I know, WIFOM, but we never actually sheep the dead's reads so scum won't have counted on us doing it.
Also either of those flips are going to be pretty informational.
vote: MiX
This is literally town!math being the D1 exile.
I'm trying to eat breakfast and I was looking for the sparknotes version
I linked the game because joth was trying really hard to find a game where he was scum but was failing to do so. So I did. It has nothing to do with me comparing him to that game or anything.