So we're still pretty much in RVS I guess. Alec is not VLA as far as I know, and Joseph is wayyyyy more experienced than me.
You are both right, people. Both situations will help town, but in different ways!In how far does losing a PR help town?
PPE: Joseph, you're right also, though newbies seem VLA so we just talk here
Claims are awful. Every PR is an IC that becomes an IC as soon as they want to. No need to rush there and get killed, doing it whenever they actually appear to get lynched is the way to go.This is plain wrong. Claims lose credibility when D2 comes around, or at L-1. And every PR that claims now is a PR we don't quickhammer at the end of D1.
Not sure what to think about faust Because of that proposal.
I agree with faust on this front.
so, having 5 mins of free time I want to do a list of players experience from vet to newb.I'd put myself at 3) on this list, and RR at 4. I've been playing for 2 years on here.
1,2) Faust/Gkrieg
3) Roadrunner
4) Joseph
5) Calamitas
6,7) Me/JakeIDPTG
9) NotTheRealAlec
Okay, so, actually, we have a not vet-aligned nor news-aligned game. This is good.
AFAIK, RR and Jake are VLA (possibly Alec with them) so this game won't be so active (we need to wait for them either way).
IDPTGDo we really want to start claiming this early on D1? I think it's a bit premature. We still haven't gotten real posts from people.
PPE: 1
Wow it's dead silent in here.
Let's talk setup for a bit. As far as I can see, there are no viable fakeclaims for scum. This means any claimed PR is either IC'd (this means that they are confirmed town) or counterclaimed (i.e. somebody else claims the role, or a role that cannot coexist with the claimed one).
This means that anyone who claims immediately basically changes their role from whatever they had to Innocent Child. Some roles I think are so weak that this tradeoff is good.
Weak Visitor is a role that offers information only at a great cost, i.e. dying. It also can appear together with Investigation Immune. That interaction is actually not clarified in the setup post. So What happens if a Weak Visitor targets someone who is investigation immune?
Anyway I think the cost is not worth it, and the Weak Visitors should claim.
The Motion Detector is similarly weak. The problem is that their results are ambiguous, and they might even out the other PR. So for claiming here.
Both also have the advantage that they always appear together with stronger roles, so the mafia will have to choose whether to let the other PR live longer or to keep an IC around.
I'm on the fence about Babysitter. I think claiming may be good because targeting them for a kill is dangerous for the mafia. But things are risky there.
Other opinions?
PPE: 2 (meaning 2 posts since I started typing this)
This is interesting. I hadn't actually looked in depth at the setup post yet because I had never played a game of this setup, and didn't read it before signing up because I subbed in at the last second. I think that the setup is kind of swingy. There are certain setups that are much better for town, like the one with Watcher/JK/RB. But then there are other setups that seem very scum favored like Doctor/weak visitor/Role cop.
Anyway, for the things that faust was actually talking about. I could see the value in the weak visitor claiming. They have to preclaim who they are going to target at night anyway right? Otherwise it doesn't really give us that much information.
Motion Detector isn't super weak in this setup, because you will have at most 6 people with motion. Ok, maybe that is actually terrible. Claim would be there.
Babysitter I don't think should claim. If they are a newb, I would definitely kill them N1, because I would have confidence that they were targeting scum and that you could get a free kill (the person they were targeting). So I think they should stay quiet, or if they do ever claim, they need to be quiet about their reads.
Vote Count 1.1
Joseph (2): LaLight, Calamitas
LaLight (1): IDon'tPlayThisGame
IDon'tPlayThisGame (1): Joseph
JaketheBaseballGod22 (1): faust
Not Voting (4): JaketheBaseballGod22, NotTheRealAlec, Roadrunner7671, gkrieg13,
With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day 1 ends Wednesday 7th December at 2pm forum time.
If the game is small enough, has anyone gotten lynched during RVS? Like, people accidentally sent too many votes that person's way?
I kinda want to hang out with you guys.
oh nice, have you taken some drinks?
What, no. Why would you even think that? And in front of minors? Ts, ts.
I kinda want to hang out with you guys.
)Lalight and I played our match and I won 4-3.
Lalight banned Hinterlands, I banned Dark Ages
We picked the order of the sets since there were no rules about it:
I picked Guilds/Cornucopia and lost.
Lalight picked Base and lost.
I picked Seaside and lost
Lalight picked Intrigue and lost.
I picked Adventures and lost.
Lalight "picked" Prosperity and lost.
Naturally, I had to win DA since it was my banIgnoring Rebuild and Culist, hooray.
Do we know whether we'll have a replacement for McG before night time? That kind of matters.
I'm looking hard for replacement, sending pms to everyone who told they're interested in a game before. If the replacement will be found close to night I will prolong the deadline for 24 hours (so they could catch up). If the replacement won't be found, deadline won't be prolonged. Though the night won't end until I actually find someone.
Will the missing player change the number of votes needed for a majority lynch?
Do we know whether we'll have a replacement for McG before night time? That kind of matters.
