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Mafia Game Threads / Re: NewMafia V : House of Cards (Day 2)
« on: April 04, 2014, 06:30:08 am »
Vote: Faust. He's lurking.
Alright, I'm going to Unvote. I'm still not sure about you, Volitare, but for now, you're less scummy.ADK-I don't really understand why everybody is saying he's scum. Is there something I missed? So far, I've got a townie read.
Why do you think ADK is town?
Here's a short summary of why ADK is scummy:
1. Process of elimination - I know that myself and IG are town. I am very confident Nik and WW are town. That leaves me with faust, shraeye, and ADK. They all have a 67% chance of being scum in my eyes by default.
2. The way he attacks other players (pointed out by DD, who died)*
3. ADK looks very scummy when you consider how shraeye, another scummy player, has interacted with or commented about him. See my post about shraeye shrugging off my suggestion of lynching ADK instead of mcmc.
*here's the postWhat I think is more surprising is that ADK, throughout this entire game, keeps only attacking people while defending people. This seems like a good ploy for scum too. He is able to defend a player, say "no they're not being scummy!" While flipping it around and attacking the person who is was attacking first. It allows hi to seem good to the town, while not being too aggressive, and he still gets to create confusion and mislynch.
I brought up his meta history. He shows another game he has played and said he's now just paranoid, but I don't think that really follows. If he was really paranoid of early mislynch es, he wouldn't be making these obviously faulty cases against people (like accusing Ichimaru gin of being too generic when he attacked me, accusing me of making a conspiracy (and them realizing he didn't read carefully enough and attacking Ichimaru gin), and now he's protecting MCMC and switching his vote to a very unstable case against Voltaire.)
I think he's very scummy, maybe even more than MCMC.
vote: ADK
It is entirely possible that faust/shraeye could be the scum team, which is why I want to hear more from ADK.
Nik, I really need you to re-read, because I think you're town.
BUT WHY NOT??Wait wait wait, let me check if I got it right the first time: you are working on an expansion of a game that you aren't close to publishing yet, and you've already decided that the name of the expansion would be Dominion, and you tell this here the other way around? In what universe is that not cruel? THE FEELS!
The name of the expansion is not "Dominion". At least not based on what he said here. I'm not sure where the confusion lies. He's simply working on an expansion for a game; nothing that has anything to do with Dominion in name or in game.
How do you explain the "Oh Dominion" in "I have actually been working on a new expansion. Oh Dominion. No, not a Dominion expansion."?
Short for, "Oh, you wanted a Dominion expansion, not just any old expansion. No, I am not working on a Dominion expansion."
Um...I didn't want people to think I was scum, but now I realize that was a big mistake.If this is really an incorrect line of reasoning, then I'll just Unvote for now.He feels good about a VT dying.Sweet, VT death. Off to re-read now that we have another flip. Cool cool cool cool cool. I actually feel good about this.That's not scummy?
I'd like to hear you explain why it is.
Nik is 100% obviously town. We are absolutely not lynching him.
This is a bad/incorrect/wrong line of reasoning, but it is one that only town thinks (especially new town).
But don't you know whether or not it's an incorrect line of reasoning? And you vote Voltaire, then Voltaire tells you that your reasoning is wrong, so you automatically unvote?
I'd like to hear some more explanation.
There's currently a Resistance game plugging along slowly but surely. It'd probably be best if you don't start this until that's finished.Oh, sorry. I'll wait then. You can still /in if you want.
Oops, you were going to post the rules... you can delete my posts if you want so you can take the second post.No, it's fine.
If this is really an incorrect line of reasoning, then I'll just Unvote for now.He feels good about a VT dying.Sweet, VT death. Off to re-read now that we have another flip. Cool cool cool cool cool. I actually feel good about this.That's not scummy?
I'd like to hear you explain why it is.
Nik is 100% obviously town. We are absolutely not lynching him.
This is a bad/incorrect/wrong line of reasoning, but it is one that only town thinks (especially new town).
Well, he said he 'feels good about it.'He feels good about a VT dying.Sweet, VT death. Off to re-read now that we have another flip. Cool cool cool cool cool. I actually feel good about this.That's not scummy?
I'd like to hear you explain why it is.
You really think he's saying that he's scum and he's happy there was a mislynch?
He feels good about a VT dying.Sweet, VT death. Off to re-read now that we have another flip. Cool cool cool cool cool. I actually feel good about this.That's not scummy?
I'd like to hear you explain why it is.
Sweet, VT death. Off to re-read now that we have another flip. Cool cool cool cool cool. I actually feel good about this.That's not scummy?
Voltaire is still my strongest suspect here. This all definitely warrants a reread, but I don't like the way he only started pushing hard on the mc wagon after there were several people voting on it.
Nik's out the gate vote for shraeye seems a little suspect as well, but that might just be a newbie mistake. He was also the lurkiest newbie on day on so maybe there's something there.
I'm inclined to believe shraeye is town, I'm much more suspicious of people who jumped on the wagon after it got going (Voltaire's the big one, possibly also faust and nik)
PPE: 2
Voltaire is still my strongest suspect here. This all definitely warrants a reread, but I don't like the way he only started pushing hard on the mc wagon after there were several people voting on it.Sorry, I thought that since Shraeye was arguing with Mcmcsalot, he was scum; but now I'm unsure.
Nik's out the gate vote for shraeye seems a little suspect as well, but that might just be a newbie mistake. He was also the lurkiest newbie on day on so maybe there's something there.
I'm inclined to believe shraeye is town, I'm much more suspicious of people who jumped on the wagon after it got going (Voltaire's the big one, possibly also faust and nik)
PPE: 2
Looking back through the thread, you're right, I still think you're lurking; but your posts do have content, though they are short.I'm going to Vote:Faust. He has been lurking and his posts have little or no content.
Funny. I was going to make a similar remark about you.
Well anyway, sorry for not being too active over the weekend. Note also that I'm in a different timezone than most players here, which makes participating harder. As to my posts having little content, can you give an example?
Ahh, sorry! I thought you wre talking about my unvoting (I'd said the same thing)In that case I will unvote
The way Ichi goes back and forth with putting mcmc at L-1 is most interesting.
Umm...I'm sorry, what does L-1 mean? Also, what does Ichi have to do with me unvoting?
In that case I will unvote
The way Ichi goes back and forth with putting mcmc at L-1 is most interesting.