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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M60: Kirby and the Amazing Mafia (Day 1)
« on: March 19, 2015, 12:27:13 am »
he's also unstoppably overpowered
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M60: Kirby and the Amazing Mafia (Day 1)
« on: March 18, 2015, 11:59:02 pm »
wooooh a game! watch out scum, for everyone of you will die.
vote: Andrewis
vote: Andrewis
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« on: March 18, 2015, 10:38:29 pm »I mean, how hard is it to imagine that Joseph, and/or his partner, going "hey, you just really messed up in Dune 2, plus you make mistakes all the time, let's use that to our advantage" and faking this whole thing.
it's possible-- I'm not saying I'm 100% sure he's town or anything. I just think it's likely.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« on: March 18, 2015, 10:37:23 pm »
so, it's funny because I recall you making a really interesting posts about how strong different PR's are. I think you said doc is weak, vig is super strong, IC is somewhere below average. or was that not you? I'm pretty sure it was you.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« on: March 18, 2015, 10:34:41 pm »WW (top scum read anyway) is super white knighting Joseph. I'd assume Joseph/WW pair with Ichi or whomever as Hydrad's partner.
if they're both scum, it's not white knighting, right?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« on: March 18, 2015, 08:44:26 pm »
yeah, this doesn't surprise me.
Joseph is town I think.
let's lynch Awaclus or ADK
Joseph is town I think.
let's lynch Awaclus or ADK
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« on: March 18, 2015, 05:06:12 pm »I don't buy the WW lynch. can't we lynch ADK?
Why do you want to lynch ADK and not Joseph?
because a) ADK is scummier, b) unless there is a third role Joseph is lying, so we might aswell follow your plan and c) you find him towny, and you're still 2/2 on reading him correctly.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« on: March 18, 2015, 04:58:31 pm »
more than yesterday, but... no.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« on: March 18, 2015, 04:54:46 pm »
I don't buy the WW lynch. can't we lynch ADK?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« on: March 18, 2015, 05:22:22 am »@3: But that's the cool thing - Awaclus will steal my result, and he cannot die. Obviously you'd have to trust Awaclus, but he's a town read for me.
ohh, right. sneaky.
Actually... just thought about a better option: Everyone targets me, I target e. That way, I cannot die, and we don't need to rely on Awaclus. Awaclus can do wahtever he wants to then (not target me though).
but you get poisoned
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« on: March 18, 2015, 05:16:12 am »
wow, that's... a pretty interesting plan.
problems I see so far
-> it relies heavily on your sincerity. If you're scum, it does nothing
-> if scum has some kind of hidden roleblocking power, they can just roleblock e
-> if you're town and both scum attack you tonight, you will die without being able to reveal your results
I have a really strong town read on you, so I don't see #1 as a big problem
also-- does it have to be everyone? can't at least ash target someone else?
problems I see so far
-> it relies heavily on your sincerity. If you're scum, it does nothing
-> if scum has some kind of hidden roleblocking power, they can just roleblock e
-> if you're town and both scum attack you tonight, you will die without being able to reveal your results
I have a really strong town read on you, so I don't see #1 as a big problem
also-- does it have to be everyone? can't at least ash target someone else?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M59: Blink Mafia (Game over - Weeping Angels win flawlessly!)
« on: March 18, 2015, 04:54:59 am »
ugh.
well done rubby though.
well done rubby though.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D1!)
« on: March 17, 2015, 10:30:47 pm »
Vote Count 2.silver
ADK (1): silver
silver (2): Joseph, faust
WW (2): ashersky, ADK
Ichi (2): e, WW
Not Voting (3): Ichimaru Gin, Awaclus, chairs
With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day 2 ends Wednesday, March 25th at 3:30 PM.
ADK (1): silver
silver (2): Joseph, faust
WW (2): ashersky, ADK
Ichi (2): e, WW
Not Voting (3): Ichimaru Gin, Awaclus, chairs
With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day 2 ends Wednesday, March 25th at 3:30 PM.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« on: March 17, 2015, 08:17:00 pm »
well, I don't think you're scum, I just think WW is right about it being excessive here
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« on: March 17, 2015, 08:07:57 pm »It's not new here, it's excessive here.I disagree. Perhaps I've gotten into more fights this game than is average for me, but that's about it. It's probably just cause I haven't been suspected as town in quite a while.
eh... come on, you have been OMGUS-ing so much this game, it's almost comical.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« on: March 17, 2015, 07:58:43 pm »Wait, we know Joseph targetted XP with Poison from Faust, right?
Wait, Faust.. I guess getting role actions doesn't include Factional one?
faust claimed this: "I targeted chairs last night. He was targeted by pickpocket and therapist (and no other role)."
So, no.
but even if faust is watching XP and Joseph attacks him, faust will just know that he has been attacked, that doesn't strain Joseph
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« on: March 17, 2015, 07:52:07 pm »I'm a little bit confused about the silver <-> Joseph thing. You say one of us is lying - but why? I get the narrative for me to do that, but why should scum!Joseph claim to have targeted XP? That would just get him into danger for no reason. isn't it more likely that an extern source somehow messed with his target?
If he targets XP with Scum's faction attack, he's a little obligated to claim he targeted with something.
but that's the thing - he doesn't. the investigative roles that have claimed are
ashersky - Blind Follower (target player, receive type of Action performed)
Hydrad - Detective (target player, receive whether or not he was attacked previously & if he was attacked this night)
Faust - Role Watcher (target player, see all roles that targeted that player that night)
none of them is a watcher in the classical sense - one that sees which players targeted the watcher player. so, there is nothing Joseph gains from lying.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« on: March 17, 2015, 07:22:56 pm »
and the IG debate is really confusing
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« on: March 17, 2015, 07:20:24 pm »
I'm a little bit confused about the silver <-> Joseph thing. You say one of us is lying - but why? I get the narrative for me to do that, but why should scum!Joseph claim to have targeted XP? That would just get him into danger for no reason. isn't it more likely that an extern source somehow messed with his target?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« on: March 17, 2015, 03:17:02 pm »This is pretty unambiguous I think.
it is, except the flavor explanation contradicts what he said before that.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« on: March 17, 2015, 03:15:08 pm »I don't have a problem with him using his power to protect himself and his town reads. Admitting that he targeted Joseph without naming XP is what sounds suspicious, because it's exactly what scum who actually roleblocked Joseph tonight would claim.
I don't get this. why should I name XP?
I'm not arguing that town!you should have done something different. I'm arguing that this is exactly what scum!you should claim, and that's why the claim is suspicious.
well... mhpf. I guess.
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« on: March 17, 2015, 03:13:12 pm »I don't have a problem with him using his power to protect himself and his town reads. Admitting that he targeted Joseph without naming XP is what sounds suspicious, because it's exactly what scum who actually roleblocked Joseph tonight would claim.
I don't get this. why should I name XP?
You came up with the XP plan. I'd think you kind of want him alive so that it goes through.
well I wasn't expecting Joseph to poison XP...
It's pretty likely that one of Joseph/silver is lying IMO, and I think it's silver.
why?
Well, if not, someone lied about their role. I'm thinking of a plan to out any liars.
what about this:
As far as the Joseph poison thing. My initial understanding of his power was that scum attacking a player would negate both poison and attack. However, if Joseph is telling the truth, then I think it is probably just an attack negates poison, but poison does not negate the attack. So XP still died because he was attacked twice.
Joseph, is that correct?
maybe Joseph just messed up explaining his role?
Joseph, confirm that please. Does poison indeed stop attacking, or just vice versa, or both?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« on: March 17, 2015, 03:07:55 pm »It's pretty likely that one of Joseph/silver is lying IMO, and I think it's silver.
why?
I don't have a problem with him using his power to protect himself and his town reads. Admitting that he targeted Joseph without naming XP is what sounds suspicious, because it's exactly what scum who actually roleblocked Joseph tonight would claim.
I don't get this. why should I name XP?
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Mafia Game Threads / Re: RMM23: Deus Ex Machina (D2!)
« on: March 17, 2015, 02:30:23 pm »Sounds scummy.
no it doesn't. what's scummy about it?