Well, either mathdude or joth, just before the deadline.Alternatively, they were both town so scum didn't bother to show up at EOD.Meh. If this is TvT then scum absolutely wants to exile one of them. they had a prime chance to exile someone without the chance to claim there.
When and who?
Alternatively, they were both town so scum didn't bother to show up at EOD.Meh. If this is TvT then scum absolutely wants to exile one of them. they had a prime chance to exile someone without the chance to claim there.
Also, I hate nexiles. I had intended to be there at EoD but my wife pulled me away 10m before deadline and when I remembered to check if I could move my vote last minute I was 2 minutes late and the thread was locked.Yeah, I was also 3 minutes late. I feel that having the deadline on a weekend didn't help things.
I don't think even if I had switched that an exile would have happened, so that's my only consolation.
Trophy - $5
Treasure/Gathering
+$2
Add 1VP to the Trophy Supply pile.
If you have more differently named cards in play than there are tokens on that pile, you may trash this to take those tokens.
This is cool, but I worry about gaining Golds with this. It's pretty easy to do as you can just play the remaining Golds after this, and a Gold gainer at $4 may be too powerful (and this can even gain Platina). You could restrict it to just Actions? Alternatively it would work as a Night card, but then you can't have the +$1.
Hi friends- I am not caught up at all BUT I just realized that deadline is this afternoon. I am heading to the lake and I’m not going to have service. It’s a bad happenstance!I'm pretty sure everyone's adivce is going to be "the person I'm voting for".
So I’m looking for advice… if not EFHW, who?
This game I really wanted to just pick a read and stay on them for the sake of limiting scum’s ability to manipulate and maybe I should have stuck to my guns there. The switch to EFHW was a bit of a whim and looking back not really helpful in any way.I'm confused about this. Weren't you voting for EFHW before you ever started suspecting Jimmmmm?
Vote: Jimmmmm
What changed your read on me?I'm not willing to give scum a primer on how to talk me out of scumreading them, sorry.
faust, what changed in the 16 hours between these posts?My read on you.Yes, I'm sure exiling a scum will do a lot for our ability to see who the remaining scum is.You don't think I'm scum?Well, I believe you are more likely town than scum.
Ah sorry, I don't want to share more about my reads right now, they are also still quite volatile. I do not like the EFHW wagon.faust, besides MiX, who is on your scummy list?Why do you want to know?
Because I have you in my leaning town category, and I’d like to be able to either move you up or down. I think MiX is town, so that increases your scum likelihood. But it’s MiX, so it’s hard to know. I think Jimmmm is town, but I think you do, too, now. Do we agree on anyone else?
faust, besides MiX, who is on your scummy list?Why do you want to know?
Answer me some of these questions, and then you can tell me I'm scum. Before that, I'm just town.You're scum.
Yes I think you missed the substance. In my view the substance is exactly the two sentences you labeled "not substance". The other two are just examples of that behaviour. So talking about how I am so easy to read and he's figured my out and I'm town is like trying to convey that town!MiX swagger, but it's does not ring genuine. Trying to pivot in the face of two long-standing wagons has the same ring of something that scum!MiX thinks will look townie, but his heart isn't in it, and it shows.What about the rest of what I said?The rest of what you said was picking apart my wording choices without engaging with the actual substance of what I said.
Must have missed the substance of what you said then. I'll try again.
"Everything MiX has done this game feels like he's performing town."
This feels like a heading rather than substance (ie what will follow is how MiX is is performing town)".
"The overinflated townread on me."
I guess the substance is the suggestion that MiX has a stronger Townread on you than he ought to if he was Town. His posts early in the Day make this difficult for me to judge because they provide no context but seem confident. If you're talking about these posts it would great if you could indicate how they show an overinflated Townread, and how you know how seriously to take them. If you're talking about the post-argument posts suggesting we're both Town it'd be great if you said more about that since you didn't say much at the time other than the argument is NAI and MiX's response is a meme.
'The pivot toward "exile all lurkers" (without using that terminology).'
I didn't mean to harp on the "exile all lurkers" term if that's what you're talking about. Whether we're talking about lurkers or just those who have avoided the limelight, why is it scummy of MiX to decide that he wants to look at and/or exile someone from among them?
"Nothing MiX has done this game is surprising because he's not actually concerned with finding scum."
This feels like a conclusion rather than substance.
You don't think I'm scum?Well, I believe you are more likely town than scum.
Also, why would you want to act differently based on the opinion of one person you say is scum?I'm no longer voting you, if you noticed. I'm cured!
What about the rest of what I said?The rest of what you said was picking apart my wording choices without engaging with the actual substance of what I said.
I give reasons and you basically say "oh doesn't matter, it all confirmation bias". Like, if that's the level of engagement I can expect then I might as well not give my reasons.Also, given that most of this came after faust's initial "MiX is scum" statement, I see no reason to believe that it's not confirmation bias at best, or worse simply trying to justify his strategy.You know, you really know how to make me regret giving reasons.
Why?
I don't see myself as lurker in this game.No offense but I doubt self-perception is a good indicator here. This is akin to noone seeing themselves as a bad person (more precisely, some people do but they are rarely the actual bad people).
Also, given that most of this came after faust's initial "MiX is scum" statement, I see no reason to believe that it's not confirmation bias at best, or worse simply trying to justify his strategy.You know, you really know how to make me regret giving reasons.
They are: Captain, Delay, Ghost, Mastermind, Innovation, Piazza, Prince, Summon, Way of the TurtleI'm not sure how Mastermind applies here. It doesn't play a card from somewhere other than your hand.
Basically I got a scum result on ash Night 1, and spent Day 2 arguing with him, waiting until most of the way through the Day before claiming the result.Sorry, but I'm not convinced that a game in which you had a scum result on another player is the best comparison to this situation. Obviously you are going to be more forceful under those circumstances.
