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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« on: September 30, 2021, 04:09:43 am »
or personal bias I guess is the more correct term . But still, you are basing the whole thing on your read that II is skum
That's clearly not true. If anything, I am biased towards thinking that e is scum; I mean, I was voting for the guy before the claim. I had not made up my mind about iguana.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« on: September 30, 2021, 04:07:39 am »
Though we don't necessarily want to go for iguana next. There is a nonzero chance that he's town.

but why does E! jump the gun like this?
Because scum wants to get to LyLo and sees e as their most disposable member. That second part is why I think it's more likely that iguana is scum; there aren't many scumteams I can think up where the sacrifice is chosen to be e.

It's more likely that this claim is serving a dual purpose of giving e towncred and calling your Cop status (and thus IC status) into question. But it is certainly worth rereading once e has flipped, before deciding on the next exile.

If e is who scum wants to flip, then we flip iguana, right? So this contradicts what you said before.
Well scum definitinely wants us to flip iguana before e. And if iguana is town, then they are okay with e being flipped next. But I don't think iguana is town.

that's like... what "contradicts" means....
I'm very confused now. Where is the contradiction?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« on: September 30, 2021, 04:05:58 am »
Though we don't necessarily want to go for iguana next. There is a nonzero chance that he's town.

but why does E! jump the gun like this?
Because scum wants to get to LyLo and sees e as their most disposable member. That second part is why I think it's more likely that iguana is scum; there aren't many scumteams I can think up where the sacrifice is chosen to be e.

It's more likely that this claim is serving a dual purpose of giving e towncred and calling your Cop status (and thus IC status) into question. But it is certainly worth rereading once e has flipped, before deciding on the next exile.

So you think we were finding skum today, or at least that skum thought that we were finding skum today?
Yes. As a rule, scum tends to overestimate the amount of danger they are in.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« on: September 30, 2021, 04:00:12 am »
(+ if iguana is town then we shouldn't flip him of course)

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« on: September 30, 2021, 03:59:24 am »
Though we don't necessarily want to go for iguana next. There is a nonzero chance that he's town.

but why does E! jump the gun like this?
Because scum wants to get to LyLo and sees e as their most disposable member. That second part is why I think it's more likely that iguana is scum; there aren't many scumteams I can think up where the sacrifice is chosen to be e.

It's more likely that this claim is serving a dual purpose of giving e towncred and calling your Cop status (and thus IC status) into question. But it is certainly worth rereading once e has flipped, before deciding on the next exile.

If e is who scum wants to flip, then we flip iguana, right? So this contradicts what you said before.
Well scum definitinely wants us to flip iguana before e. And if iguana is town, then they are okay with e being flipped next. But I don't think iguana is town.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« on: September 30, 2021, 03:56:26 am »
I can't give a straight answer if I don't know what the question is.

Oh come on. You don't understand what "Are you guessing or have you solved it?" means?
That's what I already said. Not sure why you need to ask again.

You understood the question and were capable of providing an answer.
Well, yes. After you clarified.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« on: September 30, 2021, 03:55:48 am »
Though we don't necessarily want to go for iguana next. There is a nonzero chance that he's town.

but why does E! jump the gun like this?
Because scum wants to get to LyLo and sees e as their most disposable member. That second part is why I think it's more likely that iguana is scum; there aren't many scumteams I can think up where the sacrifice is chosen to be e.

It's more likely that this claim is serving a dual purpose of giving e towncred and calling your Cop status (and thus IC status) into question. But it is certainly worth rereading once e has flipped, before deciding on the next exile.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« on: September 30, 2021, 03:46:33 am »
I can't give a straight answer if I don't know what the question is.

Oh come on. You don't understand what "Are you guessing or have you solved it?" means?
That's what I already said. Not sure why you need to ask again.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« on: September 30, 2021, 03:44:13 am »
What shook your confidence?
The way you reacted to me, and the way you continue to focus on this conversation rather than address e vs iguana.

Okay a) that's sounding a lot like a threat and b) if you had given me a straight answer this conversation could have been a lot shorter.
I can't give a straight answer if I don't know what the question is.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« on: September 30, 2021, 03:43:04 am »
Though we don't necessarily want to go for iguana next. There is a nonzero chance that he's town.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« on: September 30, 2021, 03:42:33 am »
I have found enough town to be fairly certain that we will win the game if we exile among the non-town group. That does not mean I know exactly who the scum are in that group.

So there are 4 players about whom you're certain 3 of them are scum?
Five really, but I am confident once the first flips come in we can suss out who the town among them is. There are subsets of these 5 that cannot be scum together. I also used to be more confident that I could take you out of the pool, which would have brought it down to 4.

so your idea is to go for E!.
If E! is skum, then go for Iguana.
And if E! is town, obv also go for iguana?
But you wanna go for E! first?
e isn't town. But yeah.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« on: September 30, 2021, 03:36:53 am »
What shook your confidence?
The way you reacted to me, and the way you continue to focus on this conversation rather than address e vs iguana.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« on: September 30, 2021, 03:34:28 am »
I have found enough town to be fairly certain that we will win the game if we exile among the non-town group. That does not mean I know exactly who the scum are in that group.

So there are 4 players about whom you're certain 3 of them are scum?
Five really, but I am confident once the first flips come in we can suss out who the town among them is. There are subsets of these 5 that cannot be scum together. I also used to be more confident that I could take you out of the pool, which would have brought it down to 4.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« on: September 30, 2021, 03:32:00 am »
I mean....
Vote: Iguana

We are not in lylo. E! is pretty much assured to never be lying about Iguana being skum here.
Yes but iguana is the exile that scum wants us to do, probably because he's the least important role in their operation.

What you are suggesting is that E! is skum faking a result on partner!iguana here yes?
Yes. It's a play for towncred.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« on: September 30, 2021, 03:28:23 am »
Solved implies certainly. Guess implies uncertainty.
I have found enough town to be fairly certain that we will win the game if we exile among the non-town group. That does not mean I know exactly who the scum are in that group.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« on: September 30, 2021, 03:23:49 am »
What, in your mind, is the distinction between guessing and having solved it?

Are you suggesting that in your mind they are the same?
They are at least not mutually exclusive as you seem to suggest.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« on: September 30, 2021, 03:20:45 am »
I mean....
Vote: Iguana

We are not in lylo. E! is pretty much assured to never be lying about Iguana being skum here.
Yes but iguana is the exile that scum wants us to do, probably because he's the least important role in their operation.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« on: September 30, 2021, 03:19:27 am »
So I guess it's e/iguana/X?

Are you guessing or have you solved it?
I'm not sure I understand your question.

Which part?
What, in your mind, is the distinction between guessing and having solved it?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« on: September 30, 2021, 03:18:54 am »
e-xile now!

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« on: September 30, 2021, 03:17:22 am »
Right, a 1-shot Cop who just decided to not use their power N1  ::)

That is correct.

With a no exile, no info, I took a risk and didn't investigate
Because you thought "no info is good, let's have no info for longer"?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« on: September 30, 2021, 03:13:00 am »
So I guess it's e/iguana/X?

Are you guessing or have you solved it?
I'm not sure I understand your question.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« on: September 30, 2021, 03:12:08 am »
Right, a 1-shot Cop who just decided to not use their power N1  ::)

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« on: September 30, 2021, 03:11:26 am »
So I guess it's e/iguana/X?

Should this change the order in which we exile them?

I would wait for the rest of the massclaim.

You've been rushing this too much I feel. Just wait for scum to trap themselves.
That's what happens I feel like.

I think right now we as town have the info we need and further claiming will just give scum more info for the nightkill. They could, for instance, answer the question "is Swowl a 1-shot or a full Cop?" And that has an impact on the NK decisions if we manage to exile their Roleblocker today.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« on: September 30, 2021, 03:06:42 am »
I guess we probably should exile e because scum wants us to exile iguana.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M135: Among Us Mafia (Day 3)
« on: September 30, 2021, 03:01:10 am »
So I guess it's e/iguana/X?

Should this change the order in which we exile them?

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