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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 3)
« on: October 04, 2024, 02:08:59 pm »
Would El Grande win the SdJ today? Certainly not. I think it’d be a strong contender for the Kennerspiel, but the current jury would not pick a game as heavy as El Grande for the SdJ. The game was a great pick back in 1996: the jury wanted to reward innovation in heavy games, and that’s exactly what they did. But the jury has moved on, and there’s now a separate award for games like El Grande.
- Chris Wray


LaLight has received a negative review! They were El Grande, Spiel des Jahres 1996, a Town Rolestopper!

In other news: I'm in Essen and have tested ten games across two days. Current favorites are Daybreak and Hegemony. The convention continues for two more days, so expect spotty modding for a bit.

Vote Count 3.0


Not Voting (8): Cuzz, mcmcsalot, Awaclus, EFHW, Robz888, WestCoastDidds, jotheonah, shraeye

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to exile. Day 3 starts now and lasts until October 09, 2024, 02:10:00 pm.

Thread unlocked!

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Night 2)
« on: October 02, 2024, 11:33:04 am »
First of all, the game is just too dry. It makes a world of difference to me when the calculations involve transforming resources to plant a forest to raise the oxygen level to raise the temperature to get a free ocean... versus taking this tile to get 4 points which means I get 3 more points from this next tile, and 7 points for the completed column.

But most importantly I find that in Azul, the course of events is too random for me to invest the energy in boring calculations ("he takes this - she takes this - i take this - etc etc ... so that means HE gets the 50 red tiles and not me"). More than once I have gotten screwed over, not by a perfidious alliance between my opponents to put me down, but instead a suboptimal move by them because they failed to count tiles or points correctly (and admitted so afterwards).
- William Sonntag


Swowl has been removed from the shelf! They were Azul, Spiel des Jahres 2018, a Vanilla Townie!

Night 2 begins now and lasts at least 48 hours (but probably more because board games). Night actions are due by October 04, 2024, 11:30:00 am.

THREAD LOCKED!

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« on: October 02, 2024, 11:29:05 am »
Day 2 Final Vote Count

LaLight (3): Swowl, shraeye, WestCoastDidds
Swowl (6): LaLight, Awaclus, mcmcsalot, Cuzz, jotheonah, EFHW
Cuzz (1): Robz888

Not Voting (0)

With 10 alive, it took 6 to exile.

Assuming EFHW is a tracker, would EFHW have gotten a different result if her target had no targets vs if she got rolestopped?
No.

Mod: Would I have been told if I had been rolestopped?
No.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« on: October 02, 2024, 09:40:34 am »
Vote Count 2.4

LaLight (4): Swowl, shraeye, WestCoastDidds, EFHW
Swowl (5): LaLight, Awaclus, mcmcsalot, Cuzz, jotheonah
Cuzz (1): Robz888

Not Voting (0)

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to exile. Day 2 lasts until October 02, 2024, 11:30:00 am. This is in under 2 hours.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« on: October 02, 2024, 05:32:12 am »
Vote Count 2.3

LaLight (4): Swowl, shraeye, WestCoastDidds, EFHW
Swowl (3): LaLight, Awaclus, mcmcsalot
Cuzz (2): jotheonah, Robz888
Awaclus (1): Cuzz

Not Voting (0)

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to exile. Day 2 lasts until October 02, 2024, 11:30:00 am. This is in under 6 hours.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« on: October 01, 2024, 12:49:38 am »
Vote Count 2.2

LaLight (3): Swowl, shraeye, Awaclus
Swowl (1): LaLight
mcmcsalot (1): EFHW
Cuzz (2): jotheonah, Robz888
Robz888 (1): Cuzz
jotheonah (1): WestCoastDidds

Not Voting (1): mcmcsalot

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to exile. Day 2 lasts until October 02, 2024, 11:30:00 am. This is in 33 hours and 20 minutes.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« on: September 30, 2024, 11:39:14 am »
prod: Robz888
Robz888 has been prodded.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« on: September 30, 2024, 02:49:04 am »
Mod: Are neighbors told everyone who is in the neighborhood, or do they discover it from who shows up?
The intention is that they know everyone (and I don't think in Discord it would be possible to handle it otherwise).

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« on: September 29, 2024, 03:23:34 am »
Vote Count 2.1

jotheonah (1): LaLight
Swowl (1): Awaclus
LaLight (2): Swowl, shraeye
EFHW (1): jotheonah

Not Voting (5): Cuzz, mcmcsalot, EFHW, Robz888, WestCoastDidds

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to exile. Day 2 lasts until October 02, 2024, 11:30:00 am.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 2)
« on: September 27, 2024, 11:27:31 am »
In any group of people gathered together to play games, it is really easy, due to the uneven nature of social relationships, to clue one and only one person into most hints. People have varying degrees of shared references, and know one another from different places. It’s not fair for me to play with my girlfriend Katy and anyone else: a giant clam comes up, and I could play badly on purpose and say ‘pearl’, but I can also just say ‘Harry Sullivan’. Katy knows Doctor Who as well as I do and will definitely remember the time in “Genesis of the Daleks” when the companion of that name was memorably almost eaten by a giant clam.
[...]
I guess you could deliberately try to play Dixit badly by eschewing all ‘personal’ clues, but that sounds difficult to do and like an unpleasant play experience. A game that requires you to screw it up so it’s functional is a bit broken.
- E Horakova


Galzria has received a bad review! They were Dixit, Spiel des Jahres 2010, a Nightchat Cop Neighbor!

Thread unlocked!


Vote Count 2.0


Not Voting (10): LaLight, Cuzz, mcmcsalot, Awaclus, EFHW, Robz888, WestCoastDidds, jotheonah, Swowl, shraeye

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to exile. Day 2 starts now and lasts until October 02, 2024, 11:30:00 am.

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Saltern — ($3)(Night - Duration)
The next time you play a Duration card on your turn, you may resolve future-turn effects this turn. Discard it and this during Clean-up.
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Setup: Add a Duration card pile to the Supply.

Saltern: a place that turns seawater into salt (like how this card turns Duration cards into non-Duration cards)

FAQs:
- Works on Actions, Treasures, & Night (that are Duration)
- Effects that would typically happen over several future turns occur all at once (e.g., Archive becomes +3 Cards, +1 Action)
- “Next time” cards resolve this turn, regardless of whether their condition is met
- If you have multiple Salterns in play while triggering its effect, you only discard one Saltern when resolving “Discard it and this during clean up” (if triggering Saltern’s effect for 2 cards, discard 2 copies of Saltern, etc.)
- If the other Duration card leaves play (e.g., is trashed) before it can be discarded, do not discard it
- Sometimes choosing to trigger this card’s effect will lead to an effect loss (e.g., Blockade would become a choice-less Hill Fort but lose the curser effect)
- This cannot affect cards that have (or can have) an effect on each turn for the remainder of the game (Champion, Endless Chalice, Hireling, Prince, Quartermaster, Taskmaster)
- This cannot affect cards that dictate size of next hand or capping cards played next turn (e.g., Outpost, Voyage)
- If the card’s duration effect cannot be triggered while resolving it, trigger it later during the same turn, if possible (e.g., you play Cargo Ship and decide to trigger your Saltern; you later gain a card and decide to put it on Cargo Ship; since the future-turn effect can now be resolved, do so immediately and put the card into your hand)
How does this interact with Duration-Attacks like Frigate? Does it matter if the Attack is worded like Frigate versus like Swamp Hag? Also, how do you trigger "next time" effects of cards like Flagship if their condition isn't met?

Unfortunately I think this is too messy. I'm also not sure it is worth it unless with some very specific cards.

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Venue - $6
Project

At the start of your Buy phase, follow the instructions on the set-aside Event.
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Setup: Set aside an Event costing $4 or less.

As Riverboat turns Actions into Durations, so does Venue turn Events into Projects!

The timing of when it should trigger was a bit tricky, but start of Buy phase works best with most eligible Events.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Night 1)
« on: September 25, 2024, 11:16:18 am »
The base game of Dominion definitely feels…aged partly because there is nothing surrounding the main mechanism: the game is the mechanism. The more recent adaptations of deck building uses the mechanism either as part of a larger effort or by building a game around it. Rarely do I see a pure deck builder any longer. Perhaps, that’s one reason why the game feels bland to lifestyle gamers because the core game no longer offers anything that other games doesn’t also showcase.
- Toucana


scolapasta has been removed from the shelf! They were Dominion, Spiel des Jahres 2009, a Vanilla Townie!

Night 1 begins now and lasts 48 hours. Night actions are due by September 27, 2024, 11:15:00 am.

THREAD LOCKED!

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 25, 2024, 11:11:25 am »
Day 1 Final Vote Count

Cuzz (1): Awaclus
EFHW (1): Galzria
jotheonah (1): Swowl
Galzria (2): shraeye, scolapasta
scolapasta (7): Robz888, Cuzz, LaLight, EFHW, WestCoastDidds, jotheonah, mcmcsalot

Not Voting (0)

With 12 alive, it took 7 to exile.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 25, 2024, 03:54:19 am »
Vote Count 1.4

Cuzz (2): Awaclus, jotheonah
EFHW (5): LaLight, WestCoastDidds, mcmcsalot, Galzria, Cuzz
jotheonah (1): Swowl
Galzria (3): EFHW, shraeye, scolapasta
scolapasta (1): Robz888

Not Voting (0)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to exile. Day 1 ends on September 25, 2024, 10:45:00 am. That is in less than 7 hours.

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Non-Mafia Game Threads / Re: The Necro Wars
« on: September 24, 2024, 06:51:41 am »
this vid is wul reet cool, I ked ahng! It's a jelst new gwuj in which ver word has zakt one libs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRbcw2sGkJw
This makes me think of a cute game in which you may say just words that are short.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poetry_for_Neanderthals

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Night 0)
« on: September 24, 2024, 03:25:21 am »
Vote Count 1.3

LaLight (1): shraeye
Cuzz (3): Robz888, Awaclus, jotheonah
EFHW (5): LaLight, WestCoastDidds, mcmcsalot, Galzria, Cuzz
jotheonah (1): Swowl
Galzria (1): EFHW

Not Voting (1): scolapasta

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to exile. Day 1 ends on September 25, 2024, 10:45:00 am. That is in 31 hours and 20 minutes.

scolapasta has been prodded.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Night 0)
« on: September 23, 2024, 07:55:49 am »
Vote Count 1.2

LaLight (1): mcmcsalot
mcmcsalot (1): Galzria
Cuzz (3): Robz888, Awaclus, EFHW
EFHW (2): LaLight, WestCoastDidds

Not Voting (5): Cuzz, scolapasta, jotheonah, Swowl, shraeye

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to exile. Day 1 ends on September 25, 2024, 10:45:00 am.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 1)
« on: September 22, 2024, 11:56:13 am »
Faust when you get a minute can you prod Shraeye? Guessing he didn’t realize we started?
Prod sent.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Night 0)
« on: September 21, 2024, 06:10:31 am »
Vote Count 1.1

jotheonah (1): Robz888
Awaclus (2): LaLight, EFHW
LaLight (1): mcmcsalot
mcmcsalot (1): Galzria
Galzria (1): Awaclus

Not Voting (6): Cuzz, scolapasta, WestCoastDidds, jotheonah, Swowl, shraeye

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to exile. Day 1 ends on September 25, 2024, 10:45:00 am.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Night 0)
« on: September 20, 2024, 10:43:14 am »
Daybreak has won the Kennerspiel des Jahres award for 2024!

Quote from: Haley S
Take a look at this image from the Yale Program on Climate Change Communication. If you live in America, look at where you live and how little folks around you discuss climate change even occasionally. This image makes me so sad. One of humanity's greatest challenges is upon us, and we still barely talk about it.

Daybreak will facilitate the conversations we need to turn this map orange, at least in some small part. I believe turning this map orange is the single most important barrier we need to overcome to act on climate. And so, I am indebted to the team behind Daybreak for this labor of love and care. What a beautiful, approachable, and hopeful object this is. Thank you.
https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/3193137/daybreak-a-climate-scientists-first-impressions-an

Thread unlocked!

Vote Count 1.0


Not Voting (12): LaLight, Cuzz, mcmcsalot, Awaclus, EFHW, Robz888, scolapasta, WestCoastDidds, jotheonah, Galzria, Swowl, shraeye

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to exile. Day 1 starts now and ends on September 25, 2024, 10:45:00 am.

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Eternal Return
Prophecy

When you trash a card, gain a copy of it.
I once tried, when trash Exile instead. Did not work due to TfB like Salvager or Forge. This has the same problem.

Cards like Fortress, Trail, and Lich are in the game, so Eternal Return with TFB should be fine.

The one exception could be with Provinces, as you could mill the pile very quickly.  Maybe Eternal Return could include a “costing up to $6” clause like what Shaman has.

Edit: Regarding the pile out combo with Watchtower, that’s definitely a bigger issue than TFB issue.  But there are other degenerate pile outs, like Procession and most gainers, or Sculptor and any cost reduction (especially Inventor, from the same expansion). Of course comparing Eternal Return with such busted combos probably isn’t a good starting point.
Thanks for the feedback. I have now changed Eternal Return to work only on non-Victory cards, which I think is more interesting (it incentivizes players to prioritize Copper trashing because Estates can still be trashed once Eternal Return activates).

I think Watchtower is a single, somewhat degenerate combo (well Siren has a similar issue, but only for its own pile), but it's fine because it still only works after Prophecy activation, and it doesn't do anything to help you win on its own.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Night 0)
« on: September 19, 2024, 10:11:38 am »
Role modifications have been sent! Please check your PMs.

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I once tried, when trash Exile instead. Did not work due to TfB like Salvager or Forge. This has the same problem.
It's not a problem, it's a feature.

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