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General Discussion / Re: Random Stuff
« on: June 23, 2014, 06:24:01 pm »
It's avant-garde metal cover time again! There's an original intro composed by me, but it really is Sis puella magica!.



I guess this could've gone in the Song of the day topic just as well, but I'll post it here, since I'm not a huge fan of posting two consecutive posts in a topic.

15327
Help! / Re: Slog or Ambassador?
« on: June 23, 2014, 02:32:42 pm »
Ambassador looks hopeless.
I don't see good enablers for Gardens either though.

I'd open Silver/Bridge and see where it goes from there.
If my opponent want to play Ambassador, then fine, I'll take gardens.
If my opponent does something else, I'll aim for golds & provinces, with some gardens backup near the end.

So you think Bridge BM can beat the Gardens deck here? I would have assumed it would be too slow, but maybe I'm wrong.
Is Bridge/BM better than Chancellor/BM? I guess Bridge enables double Silver turns sometimes, but are those better than the cycling?

15328
General Discussion / Re: Random Stuff
« on: June 23, 2014, 02:29:33 pm »
Does anybody have even a remotely serious answer for mail-mi?
Yes, I'm pretty sure that somebody does.

15329
General Discussion / Re: Random Stuff
« on: June 23, 2014, 01:58:38 pm »
Hey so I'm having some troubles--the "Other" category on my iPhone is taking up like 2.6 GB of space. Does anyone know how to get rid of some of the stuff in this category?

Yes, throw away the phone and get something that isn't Apple.

-_- okay but seriously, how?

Grab it, put it over a trash can and drop it. Then go to a store, choose a phone and pay for it. If it's a web store, you will have to wait for the phone to arrive. That's how you can throw away the phone and get something that isn't Apple. Is this detailed enough?

15330
Dominion General Discussion / Re: Best Dominion Moments 2014
« on: June 23, 2014, 01:04:09 pm »
Yesterday I opened 5/2 on a board without $2 cards and without any power $5's, so I was a bit disappointed.
Hey, at least the Band of Misfits gave me some play options.

Turn 3 got me $2 again, and his Swindler donated me a curse.
Things looked quite grim by now, so why not gamble with my 4 coppers and a BoM as Coppersmith to buy a Province.

I got rewarded on turn 5 with the earliest Followers I have ever had :)

unfortunately no log from Goko.
I think BoM might count as a power $5 in a kingdom with Tournament, Coppersmith and Swindler.

15331
Dominion Articles / Re: Rebuild Mirrors
« on: June 23, 2014, 10:08:37 am »
Quote
Also, what do I do on $5 if there aren't any more duchies around?

This very much depends on the board and on the post-duchy strategy you're picking. Independent of your strategy, if there is Rogue, Graverobber, Saboteur, and maaaybe Mountebank or IGG, you should pick those (definitely don't buy Witch, though). If there aren't any such cards and you are going for Turbo Rebuild, get another Rebuild with each $5 until very late in the game when you might want to pick Estate. If you go Estate-Blitz you might want another Rebuild with your first post-Duchy $5, and probably an Estate with every >$1 hand after that (unless of course you get a miraculous $8).

I really have to ping this thread. I've had a Rebuild game these days (unfortunately: No log because Goko is stupid :/) with Rebuild and Soothsayer (no Colonies, no Shelters).
I had a hard time judging if I wanted the Soothsayer or not. I went for it (with my very first 5$) while my opponent didn't. At the end I won smoothly, I could even buy a province with my Soothsayer Golds (although I probably played it only like two or three times). As the log is missing, I also can't reconstruct if that win was lucky or my opponent played just bad. I do remember that he at least chancellored once due to naming the wrong card with his Rebuild.
I just would like to know if you think it's worth it on a generic board with not much going on besides Rebuild to go for the Soothsayer or if it was a mistake from my side.
I think you should go for it. In a Rebuild game, the extra card for your opponent isn't huge, and well, neither is the Curse, but it still significantly hurts him, and the Golds are extremely helpful.

15332
General Discussion / Re: Random Stuff
« on: June 22, 2014, 11:40:01 pm »
I was just reading something on another forum, and people were saying "Mine did this" and "Mine did that", and the first thing I thought was "I wonder how long it will be before someone makes a mint/mine joke..."

You're cheating on f.ds with another forum? How DARE you!
If I'm posting on three different forums, does that give me $2 and 2 VP?
That word... I do not think it means what you think it means.
I do not think I think it means what you think I think it means.

15333
General Discussion / Re: Random Stuff
« on: June 22, 2014, 11:13:08 pm »
I was just reading something on another forum, and people were saying "Mine did this" and "Mine did that", and the first thing I thought was "I wonder how long it will be before someone makes a mint/mine joke..."

You're cheating on f.ds with another forum? How DARE you!
If I'm posting on three different forums, does that give me $2 and 2 VP?

15334
General Discussion / Re: Song of the day
« on: June 22, 2014, 09:26:27 pm »
Too bad this excellent song cannot be found on YouTube:

Thy Disease: Earth Will Shake

15335
General Discussion / Re: Random Stuff
« on: June 22, 2014, 06:55:09 pm »
Sure.  But you can also get a lot of respect just by announcing that it's your birthday, or that you are getting married, or that your kid was just born.  Or that your post:respect ratio is approaching 1:1.  Those are all awesome things and I'll +1 them to say "that's awesome!" but it doesn't mean that the person is making the forum a better place.

Conversely, there are also people who make the forum a better place by being great participants in the forum games board, but they receive no +1s because it's disabled there and they don't post much on the regular boards. 

I don't put much stock in the actual respect count because it's such a generic measure.  It doesn't tell me if you are especially funny, or if you are really good at Dominion.  I suppose you can get some info out of the measure, but I already know those things just by interacting with the people in the forums and reading their content myself.
But you can be pretty sure that a high respect count doesn't tell you that a user is having birthdays often, getting married often, or approaching a 1:1 post:respect ratio all the time.

Besides, would you +1 someone who just registered here to tell us that he's getting married? I'm pretty sure I wouldn't. People receive +1s for these posts because the community already knows them and likes them. Just like it is with IRL presents: you don't give them to random people just because it happens to be their birthday. You give them to your friends, and the reason is not that it's their birthday, the reason is that they are your friends. I think that this is fine, since pretty much all of the active users here write posts that might be worth fractional respect points in everyone's opinion, but not enough to get an actual +1 from anyone.


Anyway, I think that a high respect count should be treated not like a trophy, but more like your porn folder: it's a very nice thing to have, but not really something that you should be bragging about.

15336
General Discussion / Re: Random Stuff
« on: June 22, 2014, 06:04:47 pm »
There's not much reason to put stock in a high respect:post ratio, because it usually just means that the user makes good memes.  Granted, sometimes it means that you are an awesome developer making sweet apps and extensions.  Sometimes it means that you are Donald X.  Sometimes it means you are a Celestial Chameleon.
Aren't all of those something that means the user is making this forum a better place in a way or another?

I mean, I don't really like overused memes. They are like saying "Hey, I got a fun joke here, but I can't make it entertaining enough on my own so I'll use this template which is funny because The Internet says it's funny so people will laugh at it in order to fit in", but well, that's just my opinion. If the majority of users likes them, why not have this system that encourages people to make them?

Please post your opinions in the form of a meme.

15337
General Discussion / Re: Random Stuff
« on: June 22, 2014, 05:15:21 pm »
There's not much reason to put stock in a high respect:post ratio, because it usually just means that the user makes good memes.  Granted, sometimes it means that you are an awesome developer making sweet apps and extensions.  Sometimes it means that you are Donald X.  Sometimes it means you are a Celestial Chameleon.
Aren't all of those something that means the user is making this forum a better place in a way or another?

I mean, I don't really like overused memes. They are like saying "Hey, I got a fun joke here, but I can't make it entertaining enough on my own so I'll use this template which is funny because The Internet says it's funny so people will laugh at it in order to fit in", but well, that's just my opinion. If the majority of users likes them, why not have this system that encourages people to make them?

15338
Dominion General Discussion / Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
« on: June 22, 2014, 04:50:46 pm »
Choosing to gain a Scout.
Sorry, we can't count this. I think the question is, which plays FEEL wrong and not which plays ARE wrong.
A lot of plays that feel wrong, are wrong, and vice versa.

15339
Dominion General Discussion / Re: Cards that looked weak at first...
« on: June 21, 2014, 11:02:05 am »
1st bug? Do they, like, develop one bug first, then continue to develop more bugs?

15340
Game Reports / Re: My first Guilds game
« on: June 20, 2014, 10:10:40 am »
Even bots should defeat this, unless they decide to get 10 heralds themself like here:
http://gokologs.drunkensailor.org/static/logprettifier.html?20140619/log.517000c9e4b082c74d7e6868.1403201379843.txt
Of course the bot loses that game, he spends his opening buys junking himself and buying a self-junker.

Seriously post a game where you defeat bot at this board with heralds. They will defeat you nine times out of ten with soothsayers.
A point where you draw your deck is simply not going to happen until turn 20 or so when game is already over, you could get 7 with coin tokens but how would you get enough cards that generate coin tokens? By spamming a candlestick makers to play herald as gimpled baker? Or do you buy 5 bakers/merchant guilds. Here you would be definitely better with plaza instead every herald you buy as you could at least draw cards with journeyman and they will not end dead.
Okay. Goko doesn't want to give me the log, but it's here:

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awaclus 34
Conqueror Bot 33
Supply Cards: Candlestick Maker, Stonemason, Advisor, Herald, Plaza, Taxman, Baker, Journeyman, Merchant Guild, Soothsayer, Copper, Silver, Gold, Estate, Duchy, Province, Curse
Rating system: unrated
awaclus starting cards: Estate, Estate, Estate, Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper
Conqueror Bot starting cards: Estate, Estate, Estate, Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper
awaclus shuffles deck
Conqueror Bot shuffles deck
awaclus draws 5 cards
Conqueror Bot draws 5 cards

awaclus: turn 1
awaclus plays 4 Copper
awaclus uses 1 coin token
awaclus buys Journeyman
awaclus gains Journeyman
awaclus draws 5 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 1
Conqueror Bot plays 4 Copper
Conqueror Bot uses 1 coin token
Conqueror Bot buys Soothsayer
Conqueror Bot gains Soothsayer
Conqueror Bot draws 5 cards

awaclus: turn 2
awaclus plays 3 Copper
awaclus buys Candlestick Maker
awaclus gains Candlestick Maker
awaclus shuffles deck
awaclus draws 5 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 2
Conqueror Bot plays 3 Copper
Conqueror Bot buys Silver
Conqueror Bot gains Silver
Conqueror Bot shuffles deck
Conqueror Bot draws 5 cards

awaclus: turn 3
awaclus plays 4 Copper
awaclus buys Herald
awaclus gains Herald
awaclus draws 5 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 3
Conqueror Bot plays 3 Copper
Conqueror Bot buys Silver
Conqueror Bot gains Silver
Conqueror Bot draws 5 cards

awaclus: turn 4
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays 3 Copper
awaclus buys Stonemason
awaclus gains Stonemason
awaclus draws 2 cards
awaclus shuffles deck
awaclus draws 3 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 4
Conqueror Bot plays Soothsayer
Conqueror Bot gains Gold
awaclus gains Curse
awaclus draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot plays 3 Copper
Conqueror Bot buys Silver
Conqueror Bot gains Silver
Conqueror Bot draws 2 cards
Conqueror Bot shuffles deck
Conqueror Bot draws 3 cards

awaclus: turn 5
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Copper
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Journeyman
awaclus names Estate
awaclus reveals Copper , Copper , Estate , Copper
awaclus discards Estate
awaclus places cards in hand: Copper , Copper , Copper
awaclus plays 6 Copper
awaclus buys Stonemason
awaclus overpays for Stonemason with 4 coins
awaclus gains Herald
awaclus gains Herald
awaclus gains Stonemason
awaclus draws 3 cards
awaclus shuffles deck
awaclus draws 2 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 5
Conqueror Bot plays 2 Silver , 1 Copper
Conqueror Bot buys Soothsayer
Conqueror Bot gains Soothsayer
Conqueror Bot draws 5 cards

awaclus: turn 6
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Journeyman
awaclus names Estate
awaclus reveals Copper , Estate , Stonemason , Copper
awaclus discards Estate
awaclus places cards in hand: Copper , Stonemason , Copper
awaclus plays 4 Copper
awaclus uses 2 coin tokens
awaclus buys Stonemason
awaclus overpays for Stonemason with 4 coins
awaclus gains Herald
awaclus gains Herald
awaclus gains Stonemason
awaclus draws 5 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 6
Conqueror Bot plays Soothsayer
Conqueror Bot gains Gold
awaclus gains Curse
awaclus draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot plays 2 Copper , 1 Gold
Conqueror Bot buys Soothsayer
Conqueror Bot gains Soothsayer
Conqueror Bot draws 5 cards

awaclus: turn 7
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus shuffles deck
awaclus reveals: Stonemason
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Curse
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Estate
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Curse
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Copper
awaclus plays 2 Copper
awaclus buys Candlestick Maker
awaclus gains Candlestick Maker
awaclus draws 5 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 7
Conqueror Bot plays 4 Copper , 1 Silver
Conqueror Bot buys Stonemason
Conqueror Bot overpays for Stonemason with 4 coins
Conqueror Bot gains Plaza
Conqueror Bot gains Plaza
Conqueror Bot gains Stonemason
Conqueror Bot shuffles deck
Conqueror Bot draws 5 cards

awaclus: turn 8
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Estate
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays 4 Copper
awaclus buys Herald
awaclus gains Herald
awaclus draws 3 cards
awaclus shuffles deck
awaclus draws 2 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 8
Conqueror Bot plays Plaza
Conqueror Bot draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot discards Copper
Conqueror Bot receives 1 coin token
Conqueror Bot plays Soothsayer
Conqueror Bot gains Gold
awaclus gains Curse
awaclus draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot plays 1 Silver , 1 Copper
Conqueror Bot uses 1 coin token
Conqueror Bot buys Plaza
Conqueror Bot gains Plaza
Conqueror Bot draws 5 cards

awaclus: turn 9
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Candlestick Maker
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Copper
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Estate
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Journeyman
awaclus names Estate
awaclus reveals Estate , Stonemason , Copper , Stonemason
awaclus discards Estate
awaclus places cards in hand: Stonemason , Copper , Stonemason
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Copper
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Copper
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Copper
awaclus plays 2 Copper
awaclus uses 2 coin tokens
awaclus buys Herald
awaclus gains Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus shuffles deck
awaclus draws 4 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 9
Conqueror Bot plays 2 Copper , 1 Gold , 1 Silver
Conqueror Bot buys Stonemason
Conqueror Bot overpays for Stonemason with 5 coins
Conqueror Bot gains Soothsayer
Conqueror Bot gains Baker
Conqueror Bot gains Stonemason
Conqueror Bot draws 5 cards

awaclus: turn 10
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Estate
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Curse
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Journeyman
awaclus names Estate
awaclus reveals Curse , Stonemason , Herald
awaclus places cards in hand: Curse , Stonemason , Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Estate
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Estate
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Curse
awaclus plays 1 Copper
awaclus uses 1 coin token
awaclus buys Candlestick Maker
awaclus gains Candlestick Maker
awaclus draws 5 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 10
Conqueror Bot plays Stonemason
Conqueror Bot trashes Soothsayer
Conqueror Bot gains Plaza
Conqueror Bot gains Herald
Conqueror Bot plays 1 Silver , 1 Copper
Conqueror Bot buys Silver
Conqueror Bot gains Silver
Conqueror Bot draws 5 cards

awaclus: turn 11
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus shuffles deck
awaclus reveals: Journeyman
awaclus plays Journeyman
awaclus names Estate
awaclus reveals Herald , Copper , Stonemason
awaclus places cards in hand: Herald , Copper , Stonemason
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Stonemason
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Copper
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Estate
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Stonemason
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Copper
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Candlestick Maker
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Estate
awaclus gains Copper
awaclus gains Copper
awaclus plays 1 Copper
awaclus uses 1 coin token
awaclus buys Candlestick Maker
awaclus gains Candlestick Maker
awaclus shuffles deck
awaclus draws 5 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 11
Conqueror Bot plays Plaza
Conqueror Bot shuffles deck
Conqueror Bot draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot discards Copper
Conqueror Bot receives 1 coin token
Conqueror Bot plays Soothsayer
Conqueror Bot gains Gold
awaclus gains Curse
awaclus draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot plays 1 Gold , 1 Copper , 1 Silver
Conqueror Bot uses 1 coin token
Conqueror Bot buys Stonemason
Conqueror Bot overpays for Stonemason with 5 coins
Conqueror Bot gains Soothsayer
Conqueror Bot gains Baker
Conqueror Bot gains Stonemason
Conqueror Bot draws 5 cards

awaclus: turn 12
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Candlestick Maker
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Stonemason
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Copper
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Copper
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Journeyman
awaclus names Estate
awaclus shuffles deck
awaclus reveals Copper , Curse
awaclus places cards in hand: Copper , Curse
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Curse
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Copper
awaclus plays 1 Copper
awaclus uses 6 coin tokens
awaclus buys Stonemason
awaclus overpays for Stonemason with 5 coins
awaclus gains Merchant Guild
awaclus gains Merchant Guild
awaclus gains Stonemason
awaclus shuffles deck
awaclus draws 5 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 12
Conqueror Bot plays Plaza
Conqueror Bot draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot plays Plaza
Conqueror Bot draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot plays Plaza
Conqueror Bot draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot plays Herald
Conqueror Bot draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot reveals: Copper
Conqueror Bot places a card on top of deck
Conqueror Bot plays Stonemason
Conqueror Bot trashes Soothsayer
Conqueror Bot gains Plaza
Conqueror Bot gains Herald
Conqueror Bot plays Soothsayer
Conqueror Bot gains Gold
awaclus gains Curse
awaclus draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot plays 1 Silver
Conqueror Bot buys Estate
Conqueror Bot gains Estate
Conqueror Bot draws 5 cards

awaclus: turn 13
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Candlestick Maker
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Candlestick Maker
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Journeyman
awaclus names Estate
awaclus reveals Estate , Candlestick Maker , Herald , Herald
awaclus discards Estate
awaclus places cards in hand: Candlestick Maker , Herald , Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Stonemason
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Copper
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Candlestick Maker
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus shuffles deck
awaclus reveals: Estate
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Curse
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Merchant Guild
awaclus plays Merchant Guild
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Stonemason
awaclus gains Copper
awaclus gains Copper
awaclus uses 3 coin tokens
awaclus buys Merchant Guild
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus gains Merchant Guild
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus shuffles deck
awaclus draws 4 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 13
Conqueror Bot plays 4 Copper , 1 Silver
Conqueror Bot buys Duchy
Conqueror Bot gains Duchy
Conqueror Bot draws 5 cards

awaclus: turn 14
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Stonemason
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Curse
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Estate
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus uses 4 coin tokens
awaclus buys Herald
awaclus gains Herald
awaclus draws 5 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 14
Conqueror Bot plays Baker
Conqueror Bot receives 1 coin token
Conqueror Bot draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot plays 1 Silver , 1 Gold , 1 Copper
Conqueror Bot buys Duchy
Conqueror Bot gains Duchy
Conqueror Bot draws 2 cards
Conqueror Bot shuffles deck
Conqueror Bot draws 3 cards

awaclus: turn 15
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Candlestick Maker
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Merchant Guild
awaclus plays Merchant Guild
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Copper
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Merchant Guild
awaclus plays Merchant Guild
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Merchant Guild
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Copper
awaclus plays 1 Copper
awaclus uses 1 coin token
awaclus buys Merchant Guild
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus gains Merchant Guild
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus shuffles deck
awaclus draws 4 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 15
Conqueror Bot plays Stonemason
Conqueror Bot trashes Gold
Conqueror Bot gains Duchy
Conqueror Bot gains Duchy
Conqueror Bot plays 1 Gold
Conqueror Bot buys Estate
Conqueror Bot gains Estate
Conqueror Bot draws 5 cards

awaclus: turn 16
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Estate
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Candlestick Maker
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Stonemason
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Estate
awaclus gains Copper
awaclus gains Copper
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Stonemason
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Stonemason
awaclus gains Copper
awaclus gains Copper
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Merchant Guild
awaclus plays Merchant Guild
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Merchant Guild
awaclus uses 6 coin tokens
awaclus buys Province
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus gains Province
awaclus draws 5 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 16
Conqueror Bot plays Plaza
Conqueror Bot draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot plays Plaza
Conqueror Bot draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot discards Copper
Conqueror Bot receives 1 coin token
Conqueror Bot plays Soothsayer
Conqueror Bot gains Gold
awaclus gains Curse
awaclus draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot plays 1 Silver
Conqueror Bot buys Estate
Conqueror Bot gains Estate
Conqueror Bot draws 5 cards

awaclus: turn 17
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus shuffles deck
awaclus reveals: Merchant Guild
awaclus plays Merchant Guild
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Copper
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Candlestick Maker
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Journeyman
awaclus names Copper
awaclus reveals Candlestick Maker , Curse , Candlestick Maker
awaclus places cards in hand: Candlestick Maker , Curse , Candlestick Maker
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Province
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Merchant Guild
awaclus plays Merchant Guild
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Curse
awaclus plays 4 Copper
awaclus uses 6 coin tokens
awaclus buys Province
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus gains Province
awaclus buys Duchy
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus gains Duchy
awaclus buys Copper
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus gains Copper
awaclus buys Copper
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus gains Copper
awaclus buys Copper
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus gains Copper
awaclus buys Copper
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus gains Copper
awaclus buys Copper
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus gains Copper
awaclus buys Copper
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus gains Copper
awaclus draws 4 cards
awaclus shuffles deck
awaclus draws 1 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 17
Conqueror Bot plays Plaza
Conqueror Bot draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot discards Copper
Conqueror Bot receives 1 coin token
Conqueror Bot plays Baker
Conqueror Bot receives 1 coin token
Conqueror Bot draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot plays Baker
Conqueror Bot receives 1 coin token
Conqueror Bot draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot plays 2 Silver , 1 Copper
Conqueror Bot uses 3 coin tokens
Conqueror Bot buys Province
Conqueror Bot gains Province
Conqueror Bot draws 5 cards

awaclus: turn 18
awaclus plays Merchant Guild
awaclus plays 2 Copper
awaclus uses 13 coin tokens
awaclus buys Province
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus gains Province
awaclus buys Province
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus gains Province
awaclus draws 5 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 18
Conqueror Bot plays Stonemason
Conqueror Bot trashes Gold
Conqueror Bot gains Duchy
Conqueror Bot gains Duchy
Conqueror Bot plays 1 Silver , 1 Gold
Conqueror Bot buys Duchy
Conqueror Bot gains Duchy
Conqueror Bot draws 5 cards

awaclus: turn 19
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Copper
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Journeyman
awaclus names Province
awaclus reveals Copper , Candlestick Maker , Candlestick Maker
awaclus places cards in hand: Copper , Candlestick Maker , Candlestick Maker
awaclus plays 3 Copper
awaclus uses 15 coin tokens
awaclus buys Province
awaclus gains Province
awaclus buys Stonemason
awaclus overpays for Stonemason with 2 coins
awaclus gains Stonemason
awaclus gains Stonemason
awaclus gains Stonemason
awaclus draws 5 cards

awaclus cards: 8 Herald , 5 Stonemason , 4 Merchant Guild , 4 Candlestick Maker , 11 Copper , 1 Journeyman , 5 Province , 1 Duchy , 1 Estate
awaclus total victory points: 34
awaclus turns: 19

Conqueror Bot cards: 5 Plaza , 3 Soothsayer , 3 Stonemason , 2 Herald , 2 Baker , 7 Copper , 4 Gold , 4 Silver , 7 Duchy , 6 Estate , 1 Province
Conqueror Bot total victory points: 33
Conqueror Bot turns: 18

1st place: awaclus
2nd place: Conqueror Bot

*** The VP Counter is ON because all the other players are bots.
*** Say "#vphelp" for more info.

And how many tries it took? A bot got unlucky here by having only one province and still game took 19 turn and you barely won by point because bot did not pile stonemasons instead buying duchy turn ago.

The first try with a Journeyman/CSM opening. Herald/Herald is not too great when you're basically uncontested. I got unlucky too, my opening Journeyman missed the reshuffle, which prevented me from getting a Stonemason with two Heralds so I had to buy a Stonemason without overpay, and I'm pretty sure that my implementation of this strategy is far from perfect. And it's worth noting that the bot doesn't really go for Provinces, he piledrives the Duchies instead with Stonemason and Golds.

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Game Reports / Re: My first Guilds game
« on: June 20, 2014, 08:08:13 am »
Even bots should defeat this, unless they decide to get 10 heralds themself like here:
http://gokologs.drunkensailor.org/static/logprettifier.html?20140619/log.517000c9e4b082c74d7e6868.1403201379843.txt
Of course the bot loses that game, he spends his opening buys junking himself and buying a self-junker.

Seriously post a game where you defeat bot at this board with heralds. They will defeat you nine times out of ten with soothsayers.
A point where you draw your deck is simply not going to happen until turn 20 or so when game is already over, you could get 7 with coin tokens but how would you get enough cards that generate coin tokens? By spamming a candlestick makers to play herald as gimpled baker? Or do you buy 5 bakers/merchant guilds. Here you would be definitely better with plaza instead every herald you buy as you could at least draw cards with journeyman and they will not end dead.
Okay. Goko doesn't want to give me the log, but it's here:

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awaclus 34
Conqueror Bot 33
Supply Cards: Candlestick Maker, Stonemason, Advisor, Herald, Plaza, Taxman, Baker, Journeyman, Merchant Guild, Soothsayer, Copper, Silver, Gold, Estate, Duchy, Province, Curse
Rating system: unrated
awaclus starting cards: Estate, Estate, Estate, Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper
Conqueror Bot starting cards: Estate, Estate, Estate, Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper, Copper
awaclus shuffles deck
Conqueror Bot shuffles deck
awaclus draws 5 cards
Conqueror Bot draws 5 cards

awaclus: turn 1
awaclus plays 4 Copper
awaclus uses 1 coin token
awaclus buys Journeyman
awaclus gains Journeyman
awaclus draws 5 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 1
Conqueror Bot plays 4 Copper
Conqueror Bot uses 1 coin token
Conqueror Bot buys Soothsayer
Conqueror Bot gains Soothsayer
Conqueror Bot draws 5 cards

awaclus: turn 2
awaclus plays 3 Copper
awaclus buys Candlestick Maker
awaclus gains Candlestick Maker
awaclus shuffles deck
awaclus draws 5 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 2
Conqueror Bot plays 3 Copper
Conqueror Bot buys Silver
Conqueror Bot gains Silver
Conqueror Bot shuffles deck
Conqueror Bot draws 5 cards

awaclus: turn 3
awaclus plays 4 Copper
awaclus buys Herald
awaclus gains Herald
awaclus draws 5 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 3
Conqueror Bot plays 3 Copper
Conqueror Bot buys Silver
Conqueror Bot gains Silver
Conqueror Bot draws 5 cards

awaclus: turn 4
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays 3 Copper
awaclus buys Stonemason
awaclus gains Stonemason
awaclus draws 2 cards
awaclus shuffles deck
awaclus draws 3 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 4
Conqueror Bot plays Soothsayer
Conqueror Bot gains Gold
awaclus gains Curse
awaclus draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot plays 3 Copper
Conqueror Bot buys Silver
Conqueror Bot gains Silver
Conqueror Bot draws 2 cards
Conqueror Bot shuffles deck
Conqueror Bot draws 3 cards

awaclus: turn 5
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Copper
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Journeyman
awaclus names Estate
awaclus reveals Copper , Copper , Estate , Copper
awaclus discards Estate
awaclus places cards in hand: Copper , Copper , Copper
awaclus plays 6 Copper
awaclus buys Stonemason
awaclus overpays for Stonemason with 4 coins
awaclus gains Herald
awaclus gains Herald
awaclus gains Stonemason
awaclus draws 3 cards
awaclus shuffles deck
awaclus draws 2 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 5
Conqueror Bot plays 2 Silver , 1 Copper
Conqueror Bot buys Soothsayer
Conqueror Bot gains Soothsayer
Conqueror Bot draws 5 cards

awaclus: turn 6
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Journeyman
awaclus names Estate
awaclus reveals Copper , Estate , Stonemason , Copper
awaclus discards Estate
awaclus places cards in hand: Copper , Stonemason , Copper
awaclus plays 4 Copper
awaclus uses 2 coin tokens
awaclus buys Stonemason
awaclus overpays for Stonemason with 4 coins
awaclus gains Herald
awaclus gains Herald
awaclus gains Stonemason
awaclus draws 5 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 6
Conqueror Bot plays Soothsayer
Conqueror Bot gains Gold
awaclus gains Curse
awaclus draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot plays 2 Copper , 1 Gold
Conqueror Bot buys Soothsayer
Conqueror Bot gains Soothsayer
Conqueror Bot draws 5 cards

awaclus: turn 7
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus shuffles deck
awaclus reveals: Stonemason
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Curse
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Estate
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Curse
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Copper
awaclus plays 2 Copper
awaclus buys Candlestick Maker
awaclus gains Candlestick Maker
awaclus draws 5 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 7
Conqueror Bot plays 4 Copper , 1 Silver
Conqueror Bot buys Stonemason
Conqueror Bot overpays for Stonemason with 4 coins
Conqueror Bot gains Plaza
Conqueror Bot gains Plaza
Conqueror Bot gains Stonemason
Conqueror Bot shuffles deck
Conqueror Bot draws 5 cards

awaclus: turn 8
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Estate
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays 4 Copper
awaclus buys Herald
awaclus gains Herald
awaclus draws 3 cards
awaclus shuffles deck
awaclus draws 2 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 8
Conqueror Bot plays Plaza
Conqueror Bot draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot discards Copper
Conqueror Bot receives 1 coin token
Conqueror Bot plays Soothsayer
Conqueror Bot gains Gold
awaclus gains Curse
awaclus draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot plays 1 Silver , 1 Copper
Conqueror Bot uses 1 coin token
Conqueror Bot buys Plaza
Conqueror Bot gains Plaza
Conqueror Bot draws 5 cards

awaclus: turn 9
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Candlestick Maker
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Copper
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Estate
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Journeyman
awaclus names Estate
awaclus reveals Estate , Stonemason , Copper , Stonemason
awaclus discards Estate
awaclus places cards in hand: Stonemason , Copper , Stonemason
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Copper
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Copper
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Copper
awaclus plays 2 Copper
awaclus uses 2 coin tokens
awaclus buys Herald
awaclus gains Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus shuffles deck
awaclus draws 4 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 9
Conqueror Bot plays 2 Copper , 1 Gold , 1 Silver
Conqueror Bot buys Stonemason
Conqueror Bot overpays for Stonemason with 5 coins
Conqueror Bot gains Soothsayer
Conqueror Bot gains Baker
Conqueror Bot gains Stonemason
Conqueror Bot draws 5 cards

awaclus: turn 10
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Estate
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Curse
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Journeyman
awaclus names Estate
awaclus reveals Curse , Stonemason , Herald
awaclus places cards in hand: Curse , Stonemason , Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Estate
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Estate
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Curse
awaclus plays 1 Copper
awaclus uses 1 coin token
awaclus buys Candlestick Maker
awaclus gains Candlestick Maker
awaclus draws 5 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 10
Conqueror Bot plays Stonemason
Conqueror Bot trashes Soothsayer
Conqueror Bot gains Plaza
Conqueror Bot gains Herald
Conqueror Bot plays 1 Silver , 1 Copper
Conqueror Bot buys Silver
Conqueror Bot gains Silver
Conqueror Bot draws 5 cards

awaclus: turn 11
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus shuffles deck
awaclus reveals: Journeyman
awaclus plays Journeyman
awaclus names Estate
awaclus reveals Herald , Copper , Stonemason
awaclus places cards in hand: Herald , Copper , Stonemason
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Stonemason
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Copper
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Estate
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Stonemason
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Copper
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Candlestick Maker
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Estate
awaclus gains Copper
awaclus gains Copper
awaclus plays 1 Copper
awaclus uses 1 coin token
awaclus buys Candlestick Maker
awaclus gains Candlestick Maker
awaclus shuffles deck
awaclus draws 5 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 11
Conqueror Bot plays Plaza
Conqueror Bot shuffles deck
Conqueror Bot draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot discards Copper
Conqueror Bot receives 1 coin token
Conqueror Bot plays Soothsayer
Conqueror Bot gains Gold
awaclus gains Curse
awaclus draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot plays 1 Gold , 1 Copper , 1 Silver
Conqueror Bot uses 1 coin token
Conqueror Bot buys Stonemason
Conqueror Bot overpays for Stonemason with 5 coins
Conqueror Bot gains Soothsayer
Conqueror Bot gains Baker
Conqueror Bot gains Stonemason
Conqueror Bot draws 5 cards

awaclus: turn 12
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Candlestick Maker
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Stonemason
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Copper
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Copper
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Journeyman
awaclus names Estate
awaclus shuffles deck
awaclus reveals Copper , Curse
awaclus places cards in hand: Copper , Curse
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Curse
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Copper
awaclus plays 1 Copper
awaclus uses 6 coin tokens
awaclus buys Stonemason
awaclus overpays for Stonemason with 5 coins
awaclus gains Merchant Guild
awaclus gains Merchant Guild
awaclus gains Stonemason
awaclus shuffles deck
awaclus draws 5 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 12
Conqueror Bot plays Plaza
Conqueror Bot draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot plays Plaza
Conqueror Bot draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot plays Plaza
Conqueror Bot draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot plays Herald
Conqueror Bot draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot reveals: Copper
Conqueror Bot places a card on top of deck
Conqueror Bot plays Stonemason
Conqueror Bot trashes Soothsayer
Conqueror Bot gains Plaza
Conqueror Bot gains Herald
Conqueror Bot plays Soothsayer
Conqueror Bot gains Gold
awaclus gains Curse
awaclus draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot plays 1 Silver
Conqueror Bot buys Estate
Conqueror Bot gains Estate
Conqueror Bot draws 5 cards

awaclus: turn 13
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Candlestick Maker
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Candlestick Maker
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Journeyman
awaclus names Estate
awaclus reveals Estate , Candlestick Maker , Herald , Herald
awaclus discards Estate
awaclus places cards in hand: Candlestick Maker , Herald , Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Stonemason
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Copper
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Candlestick Maker
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus shuffles deck
awaclus reveals: Estate
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Curse
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Merchant Guild
awaclus plays Merchant Guild
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Stonemason
awaclus gains Copper
awaclus gains Copper
awaclus uses 3 coin tokens
awaclus buys Merchant Guild
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus gains Merchant Guild
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus shuffles deck
awaclus draws 4 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 13
Conqueror Bot plays 4 Copper , 1 Silver
Conqueror Bot buys Duchy
Conqueror Bot gains Duchy
Conqueror Bot draws 5 cards

awaclus: turn 14
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Stonemason
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Curse
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Estate
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus uses 4 coin tokens
awaclus buys Herald
awaclus gains Herald
awaclus draws 5 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 14
Conqueror Bot plays Baker
Conqueror Bot receives 1 coin token
Conqueror Bot draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot plays 1 Silver , 1 Gold , 1 Copper
Conqueror Bot buys Duchy
Conqueror Bot gains Duchy
Conqueror Bot draws 2 cards
Conqueror Bot shuffles deck
Conqueror Bot draws 3 cards

awaclus: turn 15
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Candlestick Maker
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Merchant Guild
awaclus plays Merchant Guild
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Copper
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Merchant Guild
awaclus plays Merchant Guild
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Merchant Guild
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Copper
awaclus plays 1 Copper
awaclus uses 1 coin token
awaclus buys Merchant Guild
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus gains Merchant Guild
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus shuffles deck
awaclus draws 4 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 15
Conqueror Bot plays Stonemason
Conqueror Bot trashes Gold
Conqueror Bot gains Duchy
Conqueror Bot gains Duchy
Conqueror Bot plays 1 Gold
Conqueror Bot buys Estate
Conqueror Bot gains Estate
Conqueror Bot draws 5 cards

awaclus: turn 16
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Estate
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Candlestick Maker
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Stonemason
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Estate
awaclus gains Copper
awaclus gains Copper
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Stonemason
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Stonemason
awaclus gains Copper
awaclus gains Copper
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Merchant Guild
awaclus plays Merchant Guild
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Merchant Guild
awaclus uses 6 coin tokens
awaclus buys Province
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus gains Province
awaclus draws 5 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 16
Conqueror Bot plays Plaza
Conqueror Bot draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot plays Plaza
Conqueror Bot draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot discards Copper
Conqueror Bot receives 1 coin token
Conqueror Bot plays Soothsayer
Conqueror Bot gains Gold
awaclus gains Curse
awaclus draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot plays 1 Silver
Conqueror Bot buys Estate
Conqueror Bot gains Estate
Conqueror Bot draws 5 cards

awaclus: turn 17
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus shuffles deck
awaclus reveals: Merchant Guild
awaclus plays Merchant Guild
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Copper
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Candlestick Maker
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Journeyman
awaclus names Copper
awaclus reveals Candlestick Maker , Curse , Candlestick Maker
awaclus places cards in hand: Candlestick Maker , Curse , Candlestick Maker
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Herald
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Province
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Merchant Guild
awaclus plays Merchant Guild
awaclus plays Stonemason
awaclus trashes Curse
awaclus plays 4 Copper
awaclus uses 6 coin tokens
awaclus buys Province
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus gains Province
awaclus buys Duchy
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus gains Duchy
awaclus buys Copper
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus gains Copper
awaclus buys Copper
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus gains Copper
awaclus buys Copper
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus gains Copper
awaclus buys Copper
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus gains Copper
awaclus buys Copper
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus gains Copper
awaclus buys Copper
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus gains Copper
awaclus draws 4 cards
awaclus shuffles deck
awaclus draws 1 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 17
Conqueror Bot plays Plaza
Conqueror Bot draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot discards Copper
Conqueror Bot receives 1 coin token
Conqueror Bot plays Baker
Conqueror Bot receives 1 coin token
Conqueror Bot draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot plays Baker
Conqueror Bot receives 1 coin token
Conqueror Bot draws 1 cards
Conqueror Bot plays 2 Silver , 1 Copper
Conqueror Bot uses 3 coin tokens
Conqueror Bot buys Province
Conqueror Bot gains Province
Conqueror Bot draws 5 cards

awaclus: turn 18
awaclus plays Merchant Guild
awaclus plays 2 Copper
awaclus uses 13 coin tokens
awaclus buys Province
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus gains Province
awaclus buys Province
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus gains Province
awaclus draws 5 cards

Conqueror Bot: turn 18
Conqueror Bot plays Stonemason
Conqueror Bot trashes Gold
Conqueror Bot gains Duchy
Conqueror Bot gains Duchy
Conqueror Bot plays 1 Silver , 1 Gold
Conqueror Bot buys Duchy
Conqueror Bot gains Duchy
Conqueror Bot draws 5 cards

awaclus: turn 19
awaclus plays Herald
awaclus draws 1 cards
awaclus reveals: Copper
awaclus places a card on top of deck
awaclus plays Candlestick Maker
awaclus receives 1 coin token
awaclus plays Journeyman
awaclus names Province
awaclus reveals Copper , Candlestick Maker , Candlestick Maker
awaclus places cards in hand: Copper , Candlestick Maker , Candlestick Maker
awaclus plays 3 Copper
awaclus uses 15 coin tokens
awaclus buys Province
awaclus gains Province
awaclus buys Stonemason
awaclus overpays for Stonemason with 2 coins
awaclus gains Stonemason
awaclus gains Stonemason
awaclus gains Stonemason
awaclus draws 5 cards

awaclus cards: 8 Herald , 5 Stonemason , 4 Merchant Guild , 4 Candlestick Maker , 11 Copper , 1 Journeyman , 5 Province , 1 Duchy , 1 Estate
awaclus total victory points: 34
awaclus turns: 19

Conqueror Bot cards: 5 Plaza , 3 Soothsayer , 3 Stonemason , 2 Herald , 2 Baker , 7 Copper , 4 Gold , 4 Silver , 7 Duchy , 6 Estate , 1 Province
Conqueror Bot total victory points: 33
Conqueror Bot turns: 18

1st place: awaclus
2nd place: Conqueror Bot

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15342
Dominion General Discussion / Re: Cards that looked weak at first...
« on: June 19, 2014, 10:50:40 am »
We all underestimated Jack of all Trades.  And Ill-Gotten Gains.  And Rebuild.

I think the original estimations of IGG are pretty accurate and people overestimate the card now. Sure, if there's nothing else going on you can play a one-card strategy and it seems like IGG is really powerful, but after Sea Hag it's my favorite card to ignore, and I think uncontested IGG can end the game in 20 turns or something if it's lucky? Yeah I'll play the other thing thank you.

I also don't think IGG by itself is usually going to win you games. But I do enjoy using it tactically to give my opponents Curses at critical junctures or to run out piles when it's advantageous for me. You don't have to rush Ill-Gotten Gains for it to be useful, I think.
IGG doesn't have to be a monolithic strategy. You can even get a few in the presence of other cursers in a slog game. An almost Silver that helps you with the curse split is not something that should be auto-ignored.

All of this is true, but the "conventional wisdom" is that an IGG rush is so powerful and so strong that you can never play anything but a slog in its presence, and there are alternatives to this so often
I don't think that people generally think that way, though. At least they don't play that way.

15343
Dominion General Discussion / Re: Best Dominion Moments 2014
« on: June 19, 2014, 05:28:36 am »
First time I pull this of
Watno: turn 26
Watno   plays Ambassador
Watno   reveals Province
awaclus   gains Province
Watno   plays 2 Copper, 1 Cache
Watno   buys Tunnel
Watno   gains Tunnel
Watno   draws Copper, Copper, Duchy, Harem, Copper
Game Over

Did you end the game and that Tunnel won you the game? Otherwise that's kind of silly to be happy you did that.
Yes, that's what happened.

15344
General Discussion / Re: Anti-Joke Thread
« on: June 19, 2014, 05:15:37 am »
http://www.tickld.com/x/25-of-the-best-anti-jokes-ever-12-is-gold

Not all of them are that great, but there are some decent ones. Just have to wade through the others.
Not all of them are even anti-jokes. Some of them are just jokes.

15345
Dominion General Discussion / Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
« on: June 18, 2014, 05:00:20 pm »
Nobody noticed when I changed my avatar a while ago.  :'(

I always remember it as the red A
It wasn't always constructed of polygons!

15346
Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Funky card idea
« on: June 18, 2014, 04:53:32 pm »
So if I topdeck this with Scheme, it's a Pyramid Scheme?

15347
Dominion General Discussion / Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
« on: June 18, 2014, 04:42:18 pm »
Nobody noticed when I changed my avatar a while ago.  :'(

15348
Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Really bad card ideas
« on: June 18, 2014, 04:37:00 pm »
Reposession
Cost $6P
Action
The player to your left reveals his hand and trashes a card that you choose. You gain the trashed card.

Get it? Because it's like Possession but more like Pillage but the cards that start with Re- are usually TfB and ... I'll go see myself out now.

It's like Possession?

They're both Workshop variants.

I suppose yes, but the name also has nothing to do with Pillage. And the effect has nothing to do with TfB. Sooo, I don't get it.
It's trash for benefit. Your opponent trashes, and you might benefit.

But all the Re-something cards trash from your own hand. Chapel isn't TfB even though you gat a benefit from it. Neither are Knights.
Rebuild doesn't trash from your hand. And with Repossession, you get a benefit other than the trashing, and the better the card you trash, the bigger the benefit — sounds like TfB to me.

15349
Variants and Fan Cards / Re: Really bad card ideas
« on: June 18, 2014, 03:52:18 pm »
Reposession
Cost $6P
Action
The player to your left reveals his hand and trashes a card that you choose. You gain the trashed card.

Get it? Because it's like Possession but more like Pillage but the cards that start with Re- are usually TfB and ... I'll go see myself out now.

It's like Possession?

They're both Workshop variants.

I suppose yes, but the name also has nothing to do with Pillage. And the effect has nothing to do with TfB. Sooo, I don't get it.
It's trash for benefit. Your opponent trashes, and you might benefit.

15350
Dominion General Discussion / Re: Plays that just feel so wrong.
« on: June 18, 2014, 01:32:25 pm »
It felt weird when I had $23 and two buys on a colony board, and bought a throne room and a curse for the 3-pile win.

Lio, what did you do to the chapel?!?
revealed watchtower and trashed it
Are you playing on Goko? Because it took you a while before you could trash it after gaining it...

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