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I bid 32

9552
I bid 30

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I bid 27. No idea how high I'm willing to go...

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hey I just realized I have the most money so I can auto-win this... though I don't think I'm willing to pay THAT much...

25 is just like a gazillion times better than 24. Kinda imbalanced... by design? 39 looks strong too.

...and somebody is going to get 25 as their second plant!

it seems like you guys have some of the plants memorized? I've only played this once... but I won! :D I don't know any of the plants...

9555
yeah... if only that plant was a couple more spots back...

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Fine I'm still in, mainly because I wanna play with liopoil more I feel like he's my newbie buddy

:D

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well, it's my turn anyway so:

One settler on my construction hut.

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ahhh, mayor. It says in the rules to put settlers on simultaneously, but if the players feel their placement might depend on another player's placement than to do it in player order. I have played many situations where I care about other player's placement, but this isn't one of them. What do you guys think? simultaneous would certainly be faster, and in the current situation it doesn't really matter... later in the game we can do it in order if needed.

Actually, maybe we should just do it simultaneously and if anyone cares about other people's placement than they can just wait their turn. In this case people should not do it out of turn unless they think it really can't effect other people's placement.

So everyone gets one settler except Jack, who gets 2?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« on: January 14, 2013, 06:16:57 pm »
I think galz, shraeye, and raerae haven't answered the question yet. neither have many people not on the wagon.

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General Discussion / Re: Logic problems
« on: January 14, 2013, 05:43:40 pm »
infinity minus one is infinity. You need a guaranteed finite number of incorrect answers.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« on: January 14, 2013, 05:29:31 pm »
Also:

Say you're on a scum team, and cuzz isn't on it. There are fewer scum for you to hunt for than everyone else. As it is jumping on a wagon is a risk because people on a wagon of someone who flips town gets suspected. If you are on another scum team the person who you're voting for is more likely to be town than if you are town. This means people who are scum should be more careful when voting for someone who is likely going to be lynched. So not only are the people on cuzz's team likely not on the wagon, but the people who are scum but not on his team likely aren't as well. there's still guaranteed to be around 5 town not voting cuzz though....

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« on: January 14, 2013, 05:13:24 pm »
....because he has buddies who don't want to hammer?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« on: January 14, 2013, 05:07:47 pm »
scum trait of who? cuzz? the people not on the wagon? the people on the wagon? and why?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« on: January 14, 2013, 05:01:31 pm »
Galz and raerae I think are town. Leening scum on ash, but he is confusing. munch, glooble, and shraeye I lean town, but munch and shraeye I think are pushing the wagon too hard, in a scummy way.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« on: January 14, 2013, 04:15:15 pm »
 I believe that cuzz is probably the changeling cop. I still think we should lynch him. I do not however, like shraeye and Munch are saying, think that we should do it just to end the day. I agree this long day isn't terribly helpful, but it can't hurt. If someone hammers it should be because they think cuzz is the most likely one of us to be scum, not because they just want to end it.

Also, lynching the changeling cop doesn't hurt us much. He can only be helpful if

a) there is a SK
b) he isn't nightkilled
c) he is lucky enough to actually hit the SK.

there is a 2/3 chance there is a SK. Assuming we lynch someone else there are 13 potential SKs for him to target. 2/3x1/13= 2/39. Of course, there's also the potential for him to survive another night, in which he would have slightly better odds. We can also subtract the possibility that we lynch the SK. (this is all assuming we don't lynch cuzz.)

So even if he is town, he likely is one of the least helpful station-members, and so would be less risky to lynch.

9566
pass

9567
the French are not pesky!

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« on: January 13, 2013, 10:51:01 pm »
Shraeye; while I do want to lynch cuzz I don't see the reason for all the hurry.                 cuzz: if you get to L-1 and someone says they'll hammer I dont see why you shouldn't claim... I also don't see why you should claim before that, unless you think  people might quickhammer for whatever reason

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« on: January 13, 2013, 10:45:31 pm »
My vote is on cuzz

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« on: January 13, 2013, 10:39:10 pm »
Seems to me that a lot of eevee's read are based off vibes, feeling, and gut, not real evidence. I don't think he's said much about why he thinks raerae is scummy, cuzz is towny, and I am scummy, among others.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« on: January 13, 2013, 10:30:58 pm »
FoS ash for voting nolynch. I think that not lynching D1 is a bad idea for town in this setup, hence a good idea for scum. Now in response to cuzz's response to the deflection: yes, none of us want to be lynched. however, since there are fewer scum than town, bieng lynched as scum is worse for scum than bieng lynched as town. Also as town attention isn't too bad. if people are reading well they will realize that you are town, this is not the case for scum. therefore scum is more likely to resort to deflection than town. Theorel: you are right that a few of shraeyes points are weak. some are strong though. strong enough that I think cuzz has the strongest case against him than anyone else. Cuzz: don't self-vote. regardless of your allignment I can't see how it can possibly help your faction. oh wait, I want to lynch you.... so go ahead, self-vote. ;)

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« on: January 13, 2013, 06:13:45 pm »
it's cause I don't read myself! I know what I am. Although perhaps I should try to read myself from somebody elses perspective...

Shraeye's argument against cuzz is very convincing, and I would vote for cuzz right away if it weren't for the possibility that shraeye is scum... still, even if shraeye is scum he probably thinks that cuzz is on the other scum team... okay, I'm convinced. Vote: Cuzz

PPE: oh cool! glooble voted too.

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well, there can only ever be one more build than this...

Build deadline was 2pm today right?

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« on: January 13, 2013, 05:51:35 pm »
Ashersky has a good point, I think. DSell, your super townie cred does us zero good if you get phasered tonight. And the posts you've made since have definitely felt a little phoned-in.

I see what you did there....making star trek references in a star trek game...

Anyway: Yes, he is not necessarily town, but should certainly be everyone's top town read. Lynching people who are likely town is bad. If we get a very good case on him then yes, he is a potential lynch. Right now all you have is the fact that he isn't contributing much. While he should contribute more, it is not grounds for a solid case against him.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« on: January 13, 2013, 04:13:43 pm »
Yes, like I said it doesn't make him auto-town, but the thing is it is highly improbable that scum could have written that post. I don't think not-contributing nearly negates this.

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