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Game Reports / How lucky was I? Was my opponent right?
« on: July 10, 2012, 10:19:25 pm »
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I just finished a game, where I won pretty easily. Part of it was pulling awesome stuff out of BM (I got Throne Room, Nobles and Tournament on a board w/ no villages, he got Native Village) but I maintain that my opponent lost in large part due to strategy. I went Amb/Amb, he went Potion/Amb for Familiar. My ambs didnt collide and I was able to clean out my deck and get some early Labs and eventually won going away. As I was winning my opponent started bemoaning my good luck, and I noted that I'd been very lucky with BM (and at avoiding Amb collision), but he had a different take on the game. However, my claim was that regardless of RNG luck, he was going to be in trouble because I was going to be able to clean out my deck while his was going to be junked up (by potion and losing Amb tennis). Thoughts?
22:06 shaytalis: sigh You get all the luck
22:06 shaytalis: all the good cards from black market, you get 5 money in hand over and over early game, you always have ambasador + curse in hand
22:07 mgallop: I got lucky w/ BM
22:07 mgallop: but I think choosing to go Familiar in an ambassador game is a bad idea
22:07 shaytalis: Not just that, but you got to buy laboratory
22:08 shaytalis: that's what won it for you
22:08 shaytalis: You got to buy 3 of those early game
22:08 mgallop: possible
22:08 shaytalis: absolute
22:08 mgallop: but I also got double Amb
22:08 mgallop: which was huge
22:08 shaytalis: just dumb luck :/
22:08 mgallop: and you got potions which are basically curses
22:08 shaytalis: double amb is nothing
22:08 shaytalis: compared to you lucking out with 3 labs in the first few turns
22:09 mgallop: lab isnt any good if your deck is full of crap
22:09 shaytalis: Lab is what won you the game
22:09 shaytalis: lucking out and getting 5 $ over and over to pile them on is what won you the game
22:09 shaytalis: getting extra lucky and getting all the best cards, including tournament, from black market was just gravy
22:10 shaytalis: I can't win when you're that lucky
22:11 shaytalis: 3 labs... ambassador + curse in hand within 1 turn of getting any curse every time, all the best cards from black market...
22:12 shaytalis: enjoy the free win due to random dice :/
I just finished a game, where I won pretty easily. Part of it was pulling awesome stuff out of BM (I got Throne Room, Nobles and Tournament on a board w/ no villages, he got Native Village) but I maintain that my opponent lost in large part due to strategy. I went Amb/Amb, he went Potion/Amb for Familiar. My ambs didnt collide and I was able to clean out my deck and get some early Labs and eventually won going away. As I was winning my opponent started bemoaning my good luck, and I noted that I'd been very lucky with BM (and at avoiding Amb collision), but he had a different take on the game. However, my claim was that regardless of RNG luck, he was going to be in trouble because I was going to be able to clean out my deck while his was going to be junked up (by potion and losing Amb tennis). Thoughts?
22:06 shaytalis: sigh You get all the luck
22:06 shaytalis: all the good cards from black market, you get 5 money in hand over and over early game, you always have ambasador + curse in hand
22:07 mgallop: I got lucky w/ BM
22:07 mgallop: but I think choosing to go Familiar in an ambassador game is a bad idea
22:07 shaytalis: Not just that, but you got to buy laboratory
22:08 shaytalis: that's what won it for you
22:08 shaytalis: You got to buy 3 of those early game
22:08 mgallop: possible
22:08 shaytalis: absolute
22:08 mgallop: but I also got double Amb
22:08 mgallop: which was huge
22:08 shaytalis: just dumb luck :/
22:08 mgallop: and you got potions which are basically curses
22:08 shaytalis: double amb is nothing
22:08 shaytalis: compared to you lucking out with 3 labs in the first few turns
22:09 mgallop: lab isnt any good if your deck is full of crap
22:09 shaytalis: Lab is what won you the game
22:09 shaytalis: lucking out and getting 5 $ over and over to pile them on is what won you the game
22:09 shaytalis: getting extra lucky and getting all the best cards, including tournament, from black market was just gravy
22:10 shaytalis: I can't win when you're that lucky
22:11 shaytalis: 3 labs... ambassador + curse in hand within 1 turn of getting any curse every time, all the best cards from black market...
22:12 shaytalis: enjoy the free win due to random dice :/